I am not sure if it is true or not, but I heard that RNs get a little extra pay when they work on a day where nursing students are present. If the charge RN assigned a student to an RN, then they get the extra pay.
I am talking about college nursing students not training a new employee.
It just came on top of my head because I have been assigned to lousy RNs during my clinical rotations and it feels like they should be more engaged with students
I'm going to try to say this politely, so I don't have to be repeatedly accused of NETY and not caring about the future of nursing, BUT:
Is it really necessary for each, individual nursing student on the site to come along and individually post the same comments that have already been made multiple times about the experienced nurses being rude, mean, and not remembering what it felt like to be a student because we don't appreciate being drafted to do clinical instrutors' jobs on top of our own? Weren't the first dozen or so times enough?
Is it not possible to just close this thread? It devolved into "wash, rinse, repeat" many pages back. What else can possibly be said on the subject?
At my hospital we have college nursing students from several different schools on site pretty much every day of the week from August through April. We do not receive any extra pay for having a student assigned to us (sometimes two students!). It is assumed that the students will be there and that you will have one with you for part of your shift.
This is what I did as a nursing student to make it better for me and for the nurse I was working with.
Anything you you can do, do it. Be helpful. Check blood glucose. Open food containers. Get ice and water for patients. Bathe the patient. Change the linens. Show the family where they can get coffee and water. Empty the Foley bag, measure the output and write it down. If you do these things this helps the nurse get her work done and maybe she'll have the time and energy to work with you and teach you things. Work with the nurse. Meanwhile you will get some time to practice the skills you have been checked off on.
Just make sure before you do these things that they are not contraindicated for your patient.
Is the patient on fluid restriction? Does he require thickened liquids? Must he be fed? Is he in the middle of a 24 hour urine collection that will be ruined if you empty the foley and discard the urine?
I've seen things like this happen more than once. Just last week, I overheard a nursing student tell a clinical instructor, thinking she'd been helpful, that she had changed a 2 year old's diaper. When the instructor asked what she had done with the diaper she said "threw it away." This was on the oncology floor. The child was on strict I&Os. Many of the children on this floor require their urine to be checked for spec grav and heme with each void. Discarding a diaper/not sending a sample can cause chemo to be delayed by hours.
And to answer the OP's question- no nurses do not get paid extra to take on a student, for the day or the semester, in most cases. The only time I've ever seen any kind of incentive for a nurse to take on a student was in this scenario: staff nurse is in grad school at College X. Senior nursing student from College X needs a preceptor. Staff nurse/grad student agrees to precept student and gets some sort of tuition credit from the school.
I'm surprised by some of these comments and how rude they are. Obviously alot of people done forgot how it was when they were in nursing school.
(Done forgot??)
This is starting to feel like that song that never ends.
This is the song that never ends...yes it goes on and on my friends. Some people started singing it not knowing what it was, but they'll continue singing it forever just because this is the song that never ends.........
Specializes in OR, Nursing Professional Development.
(Done forgot??)
This is starting to feel like that song that never ends.
This is the song that never ends...yes it goes on and on my friends. Some people started singing it not knowing what it was, but they'll continue singing it forever just because this is the song that never ends.........
Aaaaaaand now that song is running through my head. :Glares at Here.I.Stand:
Specializes in Postpartum/Lactation/Nursing Education.
Sorry for offending people but this thread sounds like students are a pain in the ass and a big inconvenience and all I was saying was I was surprised. I didn't expect it. Just speaking my mind like everybody else on here.
The problem is that you spoke about something you have no understanding of. I think the main issue most of us have with what is being posted by the students is the fact that they seem to assume we are there to educate them. Staff nurses are not there to educate students; that is the job of their clinical instructors.
As a floor nurse I am generally willing and happy to take students. However, they do increase my workload exponentially. Please begin to understand that. As a clinical instructor my students are in no way allowed to act as though the staff nurse is their instructor. That is my job. We are guests and visitors and should behave as such. Also, when I was a student nurse I can't remember ever having a staff nurse help me with procedures or teach me anything. Seriously, that was the job of my clinical instructor. I was expected to do patient care such as bed baths and vitals and pass meds with my instructor. In fact, I don't remember have much interactions with the staff RNs at all aside from telling them what care I was supposed to perform for my patient and what meds I planned to give with my instructor and then reporting off to them what I accomplished at the end of the day.
The education of the students should be reserved for their instructors who are being payed to provide such instruction, not staff nurses who are already understaffed and overburdened. I'm not trying to be snarky. I am just trying to make it clear that the staff nurses are in no way there as additional educators. Keep in mind that the floor staff does not know what is being taught by you instructors and can't be expected to. I try to be a resource for students when I am working as a staff nurse, but that's the best I can do.
Well now, this comment makes some valid points, but on the other hand, it is a classic example of nurses eating their young, as well as work place bullying. Shame on you.
Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
Sorry for offending people but this thread sounds like students are a pain in the ass and a big inconvenience and all I was saying was I was surprised. I didn't expect it. Just speaking my mind like everybody else on here.
Students are a lot of extra work for the experienced nurse. But you didn't just say you were surprised. You indiscrimately called the posters on this thread rude. And now you're surprised that you've offended someone? Come on. Surely you know better.
Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
I'm going to try to say this politely, so I don't have to be repeatedly accused of NETY and not caring about the future of nursing, BUT:
Is it really necessary for each, individual nursing student on the site to come along and individually post the same comments that have already been made multiple times about the experienced nurses being rude, mean, and not remembering what it felt like to be a student because we don't appreciate being drafted to do clinical instrutors' jobs on top of our own? Weren't the first dozen or so times enough?
Evidently every nursing student has the right (and the heart felt desire) to call us all out for being rude, mean and lacking in long term memory. The first dozen or so times weren't enough. In fact, if we close this thread I give it a week before someone opens a new one on the very same topic.
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I'm going to try to say this politely, so I don't have to be repeatedly accused of NETY and not caring about the future of nursing, BUT:
Is it really necessary for each, individual nursing student on the site to come along and individually post the same comments that have already been made multiple times about the experienced nurses being rude, mean, and not remembering what it felt like to be a student because we don't appreciate being drafted to do clinical instrutors' jobs on top of our own? Weren't the first dozen or so times enough?
Is it not possible to just close this thread? It devolved into "wash, rinse, repeat" many pages back. What else can possibly be said on the subject?