Do crnas deserve that much salary?

offlabel · May 3, 2016

What difference does it make when or where they were trained for it? I was implying they are competent to perform without MDA supervision.

Well....just at what point are they competent for that or competent oversight by another CRNA? 2 months? A year? When? That's what difference it makes.

pixiestudent2 · May 3, 2016

Are you a poorly paid OR nurse?

I get jealous of the CRNAs too...

But I also acknowledge their knowledge of anesthesia.

CCRN_CSC_0710 · May 3, 2016

Could you share the name of this hospital? I shadowed in Houston and this was NOT the case whatsoever. The MDA came in to give the CRNA a bathroom break once.

I was thinking of moving to Houston once I graduate and need to make sure I never get a job at this place.

NanikRN · May 3, 2016

I think they deserve the salary they can negotiate

jasy · May 3, 2016

Oh brother GHA group, google it, they have AAs, the mdas come in to push the drugs, you just witness the anesthesia unfolding Infront of you, you as a CRNA insignificant in Houston, TX and help mdas lives get better. Lol. CRNA makes about 220k just to assist n do the paper work, mda makes about 400k, now I know why I pay 700 dollars health insurance just myself. Flawed system.

Purple_roses · May 3, 2016

You're basing what you believe their salary should be on what they do routinely. The fact of the matter is that they have enough education to handle emergency situations as well. They're also the ones choosing which meds to give, and there's a lot that goes into those decisions. They have a BSN, advanced degree, plus 2-3 years experience in the ICU. Their brains are super valuable.

The programs to become a CRNA are also very competitive. Not just any old Joe Shmoe can be a CRNA.

MomAndSonInMD · May 4, 2016

Don't take me wrong, in Houston Texas crnas stock their rooms, prepare the meds, mdas see the patients sometimes crnas are told by mdas they don't have to see the patient, so you bring the patient to room, crnas hand the drugs to mdas they push the drugs, mdas let them intubate and then leave crnas manage take vitals do the paperwork mdas come for emergence if there is something wrong mdas take over, my question is any nurse can do what crnas do with the exception of intubation that can be learned by a nurse, my questions do crnas have t go to school for 3 years masters degree for this? And deserve 220k salary when they don't do anything autonomously? I see a flawed system any thoughts??!!!!

The Bureau of Labor Statistics disagrees with your post. I wonder what else is incorrect.

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TriciaJ, RN · May 4, 2016

Am I the only one who is extremely put off by this? The complaint is that CRNAs are overpaid, over-educated and don't require much in the way of skills. Before I disparaged someone else's value, I think I would make sure I could write at a fifth grade level.

Cook26 · May 4, 2016

Am I the only one who is extremely put off by this? The complaint is that CRNAs are overpaid, over-educated and don't require much in the way of skills. Before I disparaged someone else's value, I think I would make sure I could write at a fifth grade level.

I have never seen any CRNA in any job "just assist and do paperwork", so I honestly can't take any of that seriously. The OP obviously has no idea what goes into the job or what the knowledge base necessary to function is.

sauce · May 4, 2016

pretty sure at most hospitals CRNASs do the same as the MDA.

cocoa_puff · May 4, 2016

Am I the only one who is extremely put off by this? The complaint is that CRNAs are overpaid, over-educated and don't require much in the way of skills. Before I disparaged someone else's value, I think I would make sure I could write at a fifth grade level.

Exactly. With the same mindset as the OP, one could say that nurses (RNs/LPNs) are replaceable because med techs can give meds, take vitals, and follow physician orders. Because really, what else is there? Apparently education is of no value, and neither is spelling/grammar.

sailornurse · May 4, 2016

Hi
I am a CRNA applied for my APN license on 23rd of december. Took them 30 days to respond to my application. It took them 30 days to inform me about the documents they have received. I called them in between and the response was not to call them, they dont even inform you what they have received from you & what was missing in order to complete the application. On 25th of january I have received an email that they are missing the transcript but my school informed me that they have mailed the transcripts two times. I replied them that my school sent the transcripts. Then I received an email next day saying that they received the transcript but they need a different transcript, How come they didnt tell me that on day one? Midst of all these confusions I have been receiving emails from two different persons with different email ids from Texas board. All they say is they dont have enough resources to answer our calls and answer our questions. If that was the case why dont they charge us more fees, hire somebody, and expedite things so that we all can be productive. I am here with no money & no job to pay bills after going through the hell of anesthesia school. It might be my bad planning but Texas board is not very nice. Massachussets nursing board takes only 1 business day or hrs to issue an APN license. Massachussets which is the hub of educational instituitons usually they get lot of applications but they are not taking this long. Anybody in the same situation?

She posted this Jan 2012. So I'm confused about her statements if she is a CRNA perhaps since Texas requires supervising or collaboration with a physician is the real issue?