Jump to content

Disrespect & Profanity

Nurses   (22,715 Views | 359 Replies)

Davey Do has 41 years experience and specializes in Psych, CD, HH, Admin, LTC, OR, ER, Med Surge.

17 Followers; 1 Article; 83,170 Profile Views; 6,704 Posts

You are reading page 9 of Disrespect & Profanity. If you want to start from the beginning Go to First Page.

Pepper The Cat has 33 years experience as a BSN, RN and specializes in Gerontology.

2 Followers; 1,729 Posts; 24,929 Profile Views

1 hour ago, mmc51264 said:

I work in the south but am from the north. I cringe when I hear others call patients "honey" "sweetie". I would never. I tend to call my patients by Mr/Mrs/Dr (if they want-I have had physicians or retired physicians that don't want to be called that). 

Occasionally, I'll have a younger patient that I will call by their first name. 

When I am not speaking to them, I tend to refer to them as Mr room 15 or Mrs room 3 because I am so bad at names LOL. I joke with my patients that they most likely don't ever have to worry about me violating their HIPAA rights as I barely remember names. I do recognize them if they come back, though. 

The problem with calling someone Mr room 3 is that when he is moved to Room 15 and new person is in Room 3 suddenly no one knows what pt you Are referring to when you say Mr Room 3. Pts have names. They are not rooms.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Davey Do has 41 years experience and specializes in Psych, CD, HH, Admin, LTC, OR, ER, Med Surge.

17 Followers; 1 Article; 6,704 Posts; 83,170 Profile Views

23 hours ago, Davey Do said:

On another note, I was considering a breach of HIPAA regulations. Specifically, I don't know what Clark does- what his duties and responsibilities are, or to who he reports. And most importantly, what patient information to which he can be privy.

In perusing some examples of HIPAA violations, there were two breached cases I found based on employee's "legitimate need" to know patient information. Does Clark have a legitimate need to hear PHI which is discussed in shift report?

It's enough of a basis that I'm going to add "HIPAA violation" to the list of offenses when I type up my formal complaint.

 

2 hours ago, TriciaJ said:

I'm pretty sure the HIPAA statutes (statutes, right?) prohibit anyone being around a nursing unit or protected information without a legitimate reason.  That includes hospital employees.  So if Clark is going to be on your unit, and you're charge, then you need to know what he is doing there and to whom he reports.  Minimum.  So definitely play the HIPAA card.

HIPAA card played. I submitted a complaint to OCR just a few minutes ago, via their complaint porthole:

This email is to inform you of an employee's exposure and knowledge of PHI without a legitimate need to know.

An employee at Wrongway Regional Medical Center, in Eifel, Illinois, known only to me as Clark, has inappropriately made his presence known in at least three unit shift reports in January and February 2020.

It is believed Clark works in the capacity of recreational therapy aid and as a CPI instructor. I have personally known him to sit in shift reports on the Geriatric Psych Unit on January 8 and 26, and on Adult Men's Psych Unit on February 21, 2020.

I have been both the charge and staff nurse when Clark has been present in these shift reports and have no knowledge of his duties or responsibilities. Clark typically leaves the unit after shift report is completed. Attempts to deal with the inappropriate situations involving Clark with administration and HR have proven futile.

Should you require more information, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Sincerely 

Davey Do RN

 

I initially emailed administration and HR on January 18, 2020 and have had no reply other than "I'll look into this". The HR director said the same thing, "I'll look into this", about grievance of March 2017 some months ago.

I'm tired of them dragging their feet and not addressing matters in a timely manner.

So be it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Davey Do has 41 years experience and specializes in Psych, CD, HH, Admin, LTC, OR, ER, Med Surge.

17 Followers; 1 Article; 6,704 Posts; 83,170 Profile Views

2 hours ago, Davey Do said:

I initially emailed administration and HR on January 18, 2020 and have had no reply other than "I'll look into this". The HR director said the same thing, "I'll look into this", about grievance of March 2017 some months ago.

I'm tired of them dragging their feet and not addressing matters in a timely manner.

So be it.

I have since sent an email to my direct supervisor, the psych division director, HR manager, and corporate HR director.

The email to them consisted of a report of the shift report incident and a copy of the HIPAA violation email.

Since I was "tired of them dragging their feet" and have had no response, I believe administration and HR need to be informed of my actions.

Sic semper tyrannis.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

5 Followers; 37,471 Posts; 100,782 Profile Views

All I have to say is “watch out, Davey, watch out”. I’ve been disposed of for a lot less. You know you are stirring a pot that could spill over on you and scald your job to a painful death.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Daisy4RN has 20 years experience and specializes in Travel, Home Health, Med-Surg.

1 Follower; 1 Article; 1,196 Posts; 7,290 Profile Views

3 hours ago, caliotter3 said:

All I have to say is “watch out, Davey, watch out”. I’ve been disposed of for a lot less. You know you are stirring a pot that could spill over on you and scald your job to a painful death.

Agree, watch you back DaveyDo, same here.

Keep us updated.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

kbrn2002 has 25 years experience as a ADN, RN and specializes in Geriatrics, Dialysis.

3,084 Posts; 29,758 Profile Views

6 hours ago, caliotter3 said:

All I have to say is “watch out, Davey, watch out”. I’ve been disposed of for a lot less. You know you are stirring a pot that could spill over on you and scald your job to a painful death.

I'm sure DaveyDo is aware of that risk. Maybe he's willing to go out with a bang if it comes to that?  Even if it doesn't come to that though, be prepared to spend the rest of your working days there under a microscope! 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

mmc51264 has 8 years experience as a ADN, BSN, MSN, RN and specializes in orthopedic; Informatics, diabetes.

2,807 Posts; 39,388 Profile Views

20 hours ago, Pepper The Cat said:

The problem with calling someone Mr room 3 is that when he is moved to Room 15 and new person is in Room 3 suddenly no one knows what pt you Are referring to when you say Mr Room 3. Pts have names. They are not rooms.

This is per shift. Like "Can you go give Mr 15 his Miralax for me?" We don't move people from one room to another. It's "in the moment conversation" When they scan the pt's armband and ask them their name and date of birth, they figure it out. 

Never had an issue with it. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

2 Followers; 857 Posts; 5,572 Profile Views

I ask people if they want the PC version or real talk because it's guaranteed to be some cussing with the real talk, especially if it's one of those days.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

GrumpyRN has 38 years experience as a NP and specializes in Emergency Department.

1 Follower; 749 Posts; 17,323 Profile Views

20 hours ago, Davey Do said:

 

HIPAA card played. I submitted a complaint to OCR just a few minutes ago, via their complaint porthole:

This email is to inform you of an employee's exposure and knowledge of PHI without a legitimate need to know.

An employee at Wrongway Regional Medical Center, in Eifel, Illinois, known only to me as Clark, has inappropriately made his presence known in at least three unit shift reports in January and February 2020.

It is believed Clark works in the capacity of recreational therapy aid and as a CPI instructor. I have personally known him to sit in shift reports on the Geriatric Psych Unit on January 8 and 26, and on Adult Men's Psych Unit on February 21, 2020.

I have been both the charge and staff nurse when Clark has been present in these shift reports and have no knowledge of his duties or responsibilities. Clark typically leaves the unit after shift report is completed. Attempts to deal with the inappropriate situations involving Clark with administration and HR have proven futile.

Should you require more information, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Sincerely 

Davey Do RN

 

I initially emailed administration and HR on January 18, 2020 and have had no reply other than "I'll look into this". The HR director said the same thing, "I'll look into this", about grievance of March 2017 some months ago.

I'm tired of them dragging their feet and not addressing matters in a timely manner.

So be it.

 

18 hours ago, Davey Do said:

I have since sent an email to my direct supervisor, the psych division director, HR manager, and corporate HR director.

The email to them consisted of a report of the shift report incident and a copy of the HIPAA violation email.

Since I was "tired of them dragging their feet" and have had no response, I believe administration and HR need to be informed of my actions.

Sic semper tyrannis.

For what it is worth I think you have done the right thing but something at the back of my mind is saying, "Now that's a novel way to hand in your resignation."

Take care Davey, I sincerely hope my feelings are wrong because I do believe that you are right in this matter.

Keep us informed.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Davey Do has 41 years experience and specializes in Psych, CD, HH, Admin, LTC, OR, ER, Med Surge.

17 Followers; 1 Article; 6,704 Posts; 83,170 Profile Views

12 hours ago, caliotter3 said:

All I have to say is “watch out, Davey, watch out”.

That sounds almost like my first grade primer, caliotter;

HIPAA violation, Davey, HIPAA violation!

See Davey report Wrongway to OSR. See Davey report Wrongway to the IDPH. See Davey report Wrongway to JC.

Watch out, Davey, watch out!

6 hours ago, kbrn2002 said:

I'm sure DaveyDo is aware of that risk. Maybe he's willing to go out with a bang if it comes to that?  Even if it doesn't come to that though, be prepared to spend the rest of your working days there under a microscope! 

I truly appreciate the concerns voiced. I am aware of the possible outcomes. However, there are forces in my favor.

As I've said before, I attempt to live my life according to a quote by Richard Bach:

"Live never to be ashamed if anything you do or say is published around the world. Even if what is published is not true."

 

57 minutes ago, GrumpyRN said:

"Now that's a novel way to hand in your resignation."

Heh heh!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Davey Do has 41 years experience and specializes in Psych, CD, HH, Admin, LTC, OR, ER, Med Surge.

17 Followers; 1 Article; 6,704 Posts; 83,170 Profile Views

On 2/27/2020 at 5:25 PM, GrumpyRN said:

For what it is worth

Keep us informed.

Usually, I'll see Clark down in the lobby before I clock in, chatting with staff members and/or up on the units, around shift report, making his presence known. 

I've not seen Clark. I checked the emails that I'd sent to administration and HR re: Clark's HIPAA violation/inappropriate behavior and found no responses.

When I asked, "So, what's going on?", the big story was that Dr. Banjo was hit in the face by an adolescent patient this past week and had Ranger Rodd, the house sup, call the police.

The police came and took the patient away in handcuffs. Administration, so I hear, is upset with Dr. Banjo. However, on the men's psych unit, two RNs and a Tech were physically accosted by a patient. That patient is still here.

So, I am still at Wrongway with knowledge of Clark's whereabouts.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

2 Followers; 857 Posts; 5,572 Profile Views

5 hours ago, Davey Do said:

When I asked, "So, what's going on?", the big story was that Dr. Banjo was hit in the face by an adolescent patient this past week and had Ranger Rodd, the house sup, call the police.

The police came and took the patient away in handcuffs. Administration, so I hear, is upset with Dr. Banjo. However, on the men's psych unit, two RNs and a Tech were physically accosted by a patient. That patient is still here.

 

So it's OK to assault the nurses and techs but don't think about touching the doc or you'll be arrested? That's what's wrong with healthcare. Nurses are always being attacked and management does nothing. They're upset with the doc but he won't receive the harassment and discipline the nurses or techs would had they called the police. Matter of fact, the house sup wouldn't have called for them. They more than likely would have been told some bunk as though that's part of their job descriptions.

Back on subject, Clark ain't going anywhere either. SMH

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
×

This site uses cookies. By using this site, you consent to the placement of these cookies. Read our Privacy, Cookies, and Terms of Service Policies to learn more.