Disrespect & Profanity

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I've got a couple of burrs under my saddle blanket and am requesting feedback from the allnurses community regarding professional behaviors:

I believe:

Someone should be referred to with their title of Ms, Mrs, Mr, Dr, etc. and their surname until permission is granted otherwise.

Profanity in professional situations is rarely acceptable and if so used, should be in consensual agreement, e.g. "May I speak frankly?"

It gets my goat how some believe they have the freedom to address another or use language that is not becoming to a professional relationship.

My wife, medical nurse Belinda, told me that at Anomaly Memorial Hospital the staff are encouraged to refer to the patients by their first names because it comes across as being more friendly.

In reading some articles on the internet, profanity is condoned and supported in some professional situations because it "releases tension".

"Bullhockey!" say I.

In my experiences, respect is received, even with Salt-of-the-Earth Psychotics, by giving them respect. And that respect, reinforced, has prevented escalating patients from experiencing total meltdowns: The statement, "I expect you to give me the same respect I give you" has caused many an angry patient to take pause.

I think of the multitude of smiles I've received, asking a patient, "May I call you...?" Or: "What would you like to be called?"

Profanity is rarely necessary in a professional situation. The use of profanity can be a sign of loss of control, or apathy. I hear profanity from an acquaintance as their way of saying, "I can say whatever I want with no regard to you".

I truly enjoy using euphemisms to say the vilest thing in the sweetest, most respectful way. Forms of the word "imprudent" has become one of my favs as of late: "You can't fix imprudence" sounds so much more respectful than the mainstream saying. Or: "How imprudent of administration to do that!"

Euphemisms help to take the focus of how something is said and puts the focus on what is said.

What do you think?

Specializes in retired LTC.

Go DD!

Go DD!

Go DD!

:bow: :bow: :bow: (trying to do the wave like in the audience/grandstands)

Hoping the best for you. Too bad it's too late to walk in with a lawyer.

Specializes in Geriatrics, Dialysis.

I have no advice as you seem to have the situation well in hand and you are definitely aware of which way the wind is blowing. I've just been sitting back and cheering you on! This has reminded me of the old serialized radio programs...tune in next time on the Perils of Davey Do!

Specializes in Psych (25 years), Medical (15 years).

NurseBlaq, RNNPICU, TriciaJ, kbrn, and amoLucia, and of course all you others, I want you all to know how much your involvement means to me. Your comments and responses have given me food for thought and helped steer me.

I believe this meeting is my termination party and the reason for the termination I know not. NurseBlaq's "alleged complaints" is a possibility. "Willing to die on the Clark hill" could be because it's being perceived as I've attacked one of them and that's a big No-No.

RNNPICU's "false accusation" follows this line of reasoning. As far as having my "ducks in a row", I plan to refer to my voluminous documentation.

In answer to TriciaJ's "are you willing to be at least thorn in their side for a bit longer?", the answer is no. Once I'm no longer an employee at Wrongway, I will only attempt retribution if it benefits me in some way. For example, appealing a denial of unemployment benefits.

It's nice to see the amoLucia and kbrn cheering section in the grandstands and I've thought about "walking in with a lawyer" but I want to do this part on my own, I really do. I've been in this type of situation... lessee... several times before, three terminations... so I've an idea of what to expect.

This is Davey Do signing off for now, but I plan to give all you groovy guys and groovy gals an update later on today or early tomorrow!

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Specializes in Dialysis.

Good luck with this BS and let us know how the meeting ends. If they terminate, dry hack cough, and pretend sneeze on the way out...and tell them to have a great day

Specializes in retired LTC.
Specializes in Psych (25 years), Medical (15 years).

There is no real hospital with the name of Wrongway Regional Medical Center, no town of Eiffel, ILL, or real person with the legal name of Davey Do. They are all fictitious, which I have made up and, subsequently, proclaimed.

On 3/21/2020 at 11:05 AM, Davey Do said:

And I want everybody to be aware of the fact that "all characters appearing in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental".

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Also, it seems that one can be terminated for exercising their First Amendment Constitutional Right of Freedom of Speech, even though, according to the Legal Information Institute, "Generally, a person cannot be held liable, either criminally or civilly for anything written or spoken about a person or topic, so long as it is truthful or based on an honest opinion, and such statements".

One can also be informed that if he or she exercises that Constitutional Right, a hospital will take action.

When we members here on allnurses discuss patients and other individuals, we change their name, otherwise it would be a breach of confidentiality. PHI is not breached if an actual identifier is not disclosed.

Information such as VS, diagnosis, labs, condition, etc, are not identifiers, otherwise, we would be unable to discuss this information on allnurses.

However, there are those who believe that discussing this information is a violation of a hospital's P&P, and is disclosing PHI.

Any questions?

Specializes in Psych (25 years), Medical (15 years).
On 3/21/2020 at 3:06 PM, Davey Do said:

If it should so happen on the off chance that my criteria for accepting work assignments is met, I believe I might just seriously consider returning. After all, I do enjoy being a nurse. I merely desire to work in a safe, relatively BS free workplace.

And making good money causes me to feel secure.

This can be interpreted by some as me saying, "(I) hate it here"!

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Specializes in Travel, Home Health, Med-Surg.

Sooo, it doesnt sound like it went very well?!

So was someone from Wrongway following this thread? Please tell me they didn't create a lawsuit by trying to hold this thread against you, because if they did, then they're basically admitting guilt. How would they know it was about them unless they've actually done, well not handled, the things you've expressed in this thread? Anything to avoid doing the right thing huh? SMH

Specializes in PICU.
1 hour ago, Davey Do said:

When we members here on allnurses discuss patients and other individuals, we change their name, otherwise it would be a breach of confidentiality. PHI is not breached if an actual identifier is not disclosed.

Information such as VS, diagnosis, labs, condition, etc, are not identifiers, otherwise, we would be unable to discuss this information on allnurses.

However, there are those who believe that discussing this information is a violation of a hospital's P&P, and is disclosing PHI.

Any questions?

Slightly confused, but it sounds like things did not go well today. Wishing you the best

Specializes in Psych (25 years), Medical (15 years).
2 minutes ago, Daisy4RN said:

Sooo, it doesnt sound like it went very well?!

I don't know if I'd say that, Daisy.

No untruth, on my part, has been said or published, in which the First Amendment protects me, as stated above.

Graphic renditions of situations are admissible in a court of law, and no rendition is inaccurate or false, they merely represent actual occurrences.

The comic characters represent involved individuals and are not meant to be taken negatively in any way.

I'm okay with it, generally speaking.

9 minutes ago, NurseBlaq said:

So was someone from Wrongway following this thread? Please tell me they didn't create a lawsuit by trying to hold this thread against you, because if they did, then they're basically admitting guilt. How would they know it was about them unless they've actually done, well not handled, the things you've expressed in this thread? Anything to avoid doing the right thing huh? SMH

Interesting perspective, NurseBlaq...

Specializes in Psych (25 years), Medical (15 years).
35 minutes ago, RNNPICU said:

Slightly confused, but it sounds like things did not go well today. Wishing you the best

I don't understand the confusion, RNNPICU, as we all knew something was going to be held against one, if one was to be terminated.

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