Defeated and impeached, Trump still commands the loyalty of the GOP's voters

toomuchbaloney · Feb 22, 2021

A cult of personality. We've read this book before.

Beerman, BSN · Feb 22, 2021

1 hour ago, chare said:

I find it concerning, that this many Republicans support Mr. Trump.

Exclusive: Defeated and impeached, Trump still commands the loyalty of the GOP's voters

Trump a actually has a list of accomplishments. What has the Republican party done?

nursej22, MSN, RN · Feb 22, 2021

1 hour ago, Beerman said:

Trump a actually has a list of accomplishments. What has the Republican party done?

Gained control most states' governments including governors and legislatures, approved record numbers of federal judges, including 3 supreme court justices, passed a massive tax cut, and acquitted their president on impeachment charges, twice.

Home Health Columnist / Guide · Feb 22, 2021

President Trump will be last speaker at this Sundays CPAC Conference, Conference listing has some interesting topic tittles. Guessing he'll speak of stolen election and 2024 plans.

macawake, MSN · Feb 22, 2021

13 hours ago, chare said:

I find it concerning, that this many Republicans support Mr. Trump.

I find that concerning as well, but sadly I’m not at all surprised. I personally don’t regard Trump supporters as conservatives as much as I view them as worshippers. They seem to view him as a deity (perish the thought...) If I’m honest, I think I’m more of a conservative than he is. In my opinion he’s simply an opportunist who realized that a significant part of the electorate were ripe for the picking.

What’s happened with Trump is of course extreme but I have to admit that as a European I’ve always found U.S. politics strangely focused on the party leader as opposed to the party’s policy and ideology.

We have elections every four years as well and they are extremely boring affairs compared to U.S. elections. Much less drama and showmanship and a whole lot less money involved. There is no way a candidate could ever fill a sports arena with adoring fans. We have a handful of televised debates close to the election where the party leaders participate but most people don’t care about the person. They care about the policy they’re proposing.

In the months running up to the election they will usually travel around the country speaking in some town square, drawing a crowd of 100 people on a good day ? But it’s not that people don’t care about politics, they do. In the last election in 2018, voter turnout was 87.18% of eligible voters.

toomuchbaloney · Feb 22, 2021

13 minutes ago, macawake said:

I find that concerning as well, but sadly I’m not at all surprised. I personally don’t regard Trump supporters as conservatives as much as I view them as worshippers. They seem to view him as a deity (perish the thought...) If I’m honest, I think I’m more of a conservative than he is. In my opinion he’s simply an opportunist who realized that a significant part of the electorate were ripe for the picking.

What’s happened with Trump is of course extreme but I have to admit that as a European I’ve always found U.S. politics strangely focused on the party leader as opposed to the party’s policy and ideology.

We have elections every four years as well and they are extremely boring affairs compared to U.S. elections. Much less drama and showmanship and a whole lot less money involved. There is no way a candidate could ever fill a sports arena with adoring fans. We have a handful of televised debates close to the election where the party leaders participate but most people don’t care about the person. They care about the policy they’re proposing.

In the months running up to the election they will usually travel around the country speaking on some town square, drawing a crowd of 100 people on a good day ? But it’s not that people don’t care about politics, they do. For the last election in 2018, voter turnout was 87.18% of eligible voters.

This country enjoys a political party which embraces voter suppression as a political strategy. That's the same political party which gets elected by telling their voters that government is bad and should be limited...starved even. That same party doesn't even have a policy platform...they decided in 2016 that their policy platform was support Trump in all ways at any cost. That party leadership can't even acknowledge out loud on television that the 2016 election was free and fair...that would be contrary to Trump's assertions.

That political party is most certainly now functioning as a cult. They are very dangerous in their ability to insist that up is down and wrong is right. My country is not out of the woods. We have an ignorant segment of the population which is angry and seemingly intent upon repeating history.

londonflo · Feb 22, 2021

19 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

A cult of personality.

The characteristics of Trump's personality and the operation of his MAGA organization really do meet the criteria of cult status. -- NOT every cult has a central religion focus - but his has that authoritarian focus, sycophants and children in the next ring below him, believes he alone knows what is best, etc,

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The definition of a cult is a group of people with extreme dedication to a certain leader or set of beliefs that are often viewed as odd by others, or is an excessive and misplaced admiration for someone or something, or is something that is popular among a certain segment of society.

Yes HE IS ODD but thinks his way of thinking is the norm. Like all the other cult leaders he will end up in jail or dead-- Keith Reniere, Jim Jones, David Koresch and the ilk.

Read it here:

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1). Deception. Destructive cults are presented externally as traditional associations. These can be arbitrarily defined... 2). Self-appointed sovereign leadership. Destructive cults are instigated and ruled by psychologically dominant... 3). Manipulation. Destructive cults employ coordinated techniques and lies...

nursej22, MSN, RN · Feb 22, 2021

Well, technically, we all end up dead. Bhagwan Rajneesh pled guilty to immigration fraud and was allowed to return to India, where he died of heart failure.

londonflo · Feb 22, 2021

1 hour ago, nursej22 said:

Well, technically, we all end up dead

so go out and do what ever you want, after all we will all encounter (the) death (penalty) in one way or another.

guest1163268 · Feb 23, 2021

20 hours ago, Beerman said:

Trump a actually has a list of accomplishments. What has the Republican party done?

You are so very right Beerman!

*probably responsible for the deaths of about 300k people... Where's the pro lifers now?

*the most lies of any president in America's history

*impeached twice

*the incredible ability to shift the paths of hurricanes

*responsible for probably more of his cabinet and people in govt being indicted and convicted than any other president

*the biggest inauguration crowd in history

*the most orange president in history

The list is endless! Bigly, greatest, cofeve endless! ?????

guest1163268 · Feb 23, 2021

8 hours ago, macawake said:

I find that concerning as well, but sadly I’m not at all surprised. I personally don’t regard Trump supporters as conservatives as much as I view them as worshippers. They seem to view him as a deity (perish the thought...) If I’m honest, I think I’m more of a conservative than he is. In my opinion he’s simply an opportunist who realized that a significant part of the electorate were ripe for the picking.

What’s happened with Trump is of course extreme but I have to admit that as a European I’ve always found U.S. politics strangely focused on the party leader as opposed to the party’s policy and ideology.

We have elections every four years as well and they are extremely boring affairs compared to U.S. elections. Much less drama and showmanship and a whole lot less money involved. There is no way a candidate could ever fill a sports arena with adoring fans. We have a handful of televised debates close to the election where the party leaders participate but most people don’t care about the person. They care about the policy they’re proposing.

In the months running up to the election they will usually travel around the country speaking in some town square, drawing a crowd of 100 people on a good day ? But it’s not that people don’t care about politics, they do. In the last election in 2018, voter turnout was 87.18% of eligible voters.

It's amazing isn't it. I hold American, Danish and British passports from my parents and I can't believe the difference in elections over there. The Brits have like no advertising, a million pound budget I think(not totally sure) and basically town halls. Oh and 13 weeks I think to campaign.