I got good news finally. I might have a chance to work with the military…I wont be with the services but I can work as a nurse outside of the service itself. I was contacted by the HR there and they have potential openings for nurses with less than a year of experience so here's crossing my fingers!
I called the NSO…it took almost an hour to get with someone but I discussed my case with them and heard what they had to recommend. I explained the situation that occurred and they put a rush order on my order, and hopefully I will hear back from someone asap. I have heard that I will not be able to get coverage for the incident that occurred because I got insurance the day after I was terminated. I really hope this is not the case and that they do not drop me because I cannot afford an attorney.
I also got auto insurance today finally. I know it's a bit pricey considering my circumstance but I can't go without it. I applied to a few more place. No calls or emails yet…gah the wait is the worst part!
I went to my psychologist for the first meeting. It lasted about an hour and he basically took my info of my history. Something hit me though when I was talking to him: I think I become unsure of myself very quickly especially in unsupportive environments due to my history of being bullied at schools and home. I am meeting again with him Friday to further discuss how to work out frustration and stress during work. Each visit is only 20 bucks, thank God for good insurance!
I came home and took a nice relaxing bath while I watched the birds. I found we have a toad living in our front yard, and after a failed attempt at catching him I decided to name him Julio lol!
Bullsheet. Nursing is NOT a calling for all who hold the license!
Worried nurse.....yes we all have had tough days, unbearable patients, but u can't yell at a patient, not ever. I am not on a "high horse", nurses take an oath at their pinning ceramony, look it up, its good for all of us to read it once in awhile. For 17 of the 23 years, I worked as an oncology nurse, and as awful and as stressful and as impossible as some of those paticular days/weeks were, I never yelled at anyone. Did I want to, of course, but you cant. It is a part of the responsibility of being trusted by the people that you are caring for, that no matter how bad your shift is, their day is always worse than yours. So waiting for a nurturing environment that HR and the nurse manager that interviewed you promises you, also will not happen. They also have impossible jobs, it is not fun being told everything about everyone, day after day, and expected to get people to do the right thing and make ever person that works on the unit happy, because everyone wants something different. Some places are better than others, but you cant blame everyone else, because you keep a job because of a pay check,. Nuring is a calling, its much bigger than a pay check.And as a charge nurse, you have to set the tone for the rest of the staff. It's your environment, you control it. You can go into the BR and yell into a towel, take a break for 5 minutes, do what you have to to get over that hump. Nursing is not for everone, and if you start screaming at old people who are hungry, it's a problem.
I attended my pinning ceremony but there was no recitation of an oath.
And while there may exist a state where one is required to notify the BON of a firing, I certainly don't believe there are many where that is the case.
Some people handle stress better than others. Did the OP deal with the situation in the best way? No, and I think she now realizes that. But I think it is better to help someone learn from their mistake and become a better nurse (as long as actual and intentional negligence took place - and I don't feel raising one's voice necessarily fits this).
And finally, no. Just no. For many of us, nursing is not a calling. It is a job for which we are highly educated and can and do excel at even if we *gasp* are doing it for the paycheck.
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OP, I hope am glad you are seeking treatment for your anxiety.
Perhaps you and the person providing your mental health care can come up with a plan of what you will do when stress takes you to the point where you might snap at someone or raise your voice. Take a deep breath, remind yourself you are in control of your reactions and mentally think through what you want to say before saying it. Something like that.
This is be helpful as you deal with the stresses of life AND if future potential employers ask about this situation, you can tell them that you have an action plan. That might help them see you taking part in your self improvement.
When you are more calm, please do reflect on what happened that shift, how you reacted, where you made mistakes and how you should have responded.
My compassion is for the man she yelled at, not her "crisis " He is the person u should have compassion for. Have u ever worked with a nurse, that u knew was not healthy mentally? And Florance Nightingale would not agree that that pledge is outdated, and what type of nursing school does not have a pinning ceramony? Everything we do as nurses is based on history, tradition, where did you go to nursing school? It takes a special kind of nurse to work corrections, God bless you.
My school didn't have a pinning "ceramony," but to be fair, we didn't have a pinning ceremony either.
And if everything you were taught in school is based on history and tradition, did they teach you not to wear gloves because it's demeaning for the patients? How about that the best treatment for tuberculosis is fresh air?
I would take a nurse who lost her temper over someone who was trained based on history and tradition instead of by EBP. At least I'd know the one who yelled at me would be less likely to do me harm with some sort of outdated treatment.
I am not talking about practicing nursing like it is 1850. And yes, I understand that nurses are highly educated professionals. The tradition and history that I am talking about, leads us all to have a professional desire to deliver the best care possible at all times, and no, that does not mean to suggest fresh air for a patient with tb. And as far as Florence Nightingale goes, i don't care if anyone knows the pledge, had a pinning ceramony, or even went to their graduation, that is your own business. But i do know that understanding the history of any profession your in, will help you not to repeat prior mistakes. Because she is the mother of modern nursing, knowing that history and tradition is important so you can have some understanding of what others before you went through. It only makes you respect your career more. My Lord, she was a feminist in the 1800's, I think she at least deserves your respect. The "calling" I refer to is not God nessasarily whispering to you to go into nursing. It's the realization that being a nurse is much bigger than yourself, and it is a huge responsibility. Do I think that what the nurse that yelled (first she said yelled, then she "raised" her voice) at the "pouting, crying, manipulative" man who was hungry should be fired? Yes I do. Do I think that she should be punished for the rest of her life? No, of course not. But I don't believe she is telling the truth. She saw an orthodontist, a dentist, a doctor, and her new psychologist, who diagnosed her the first time she saw him, cleaned her home, did the laundry, went for a walk, emotionally supported her fiance who was having a bad day at work, got a call for a job working as a civilian nurse that she didn't apply for, but apparently somehow knew she needed work, chased a toad, spent time with her family, applied for other jobs, spent time on this site, I think she said checking it every 15 minutes, cooked tacos with honey in them, watched a movie with her fiance, was very emotionally distraught, got malpractice insurance, who gave her advice, but they gave poor customer service because she wasn't insured at the time of the incident, tried to get anwsers from where she was terninated, I can't remember anything else, and all of this happened in a span of a few days. Just saying, I don't believe her. And I do hope she gets her life together, I just don't think it should be as someone who has to take care of people. She needs to focus on getting well. I believe that people change for awhile when they are told they made a mess of whatever, but eventually return to whatever screwed them up in the first place. Not just her, me, you, all of us.And the first year as a nurse is so stressful, no matter what venue she chooses. It will set her up for failure.
Specializes in M/S, LTC, Corrections, PDN & drug rehab.
I am not talking about practicing nursing like it is 1850. And yes, I understand that nurses are highly educated professionals. The tradition and history that I am talking about, leads us all to have a professional desire to deliver the best care possible at all times, and no, that does not mean to suggest fresh air for a patient with tb. And as far as Florence Nightingale goes, i don't care if anyone knows the pledge, had a pinning ceramony, or even went to their graduation, that is your own business. But i do know that understanding the history of any profession your in, will help you not to repeat prior mistakes. Because she is the mother of modern nursing, knowing that history and tradition is important so you can have some understanding of what others before you went through. It only makes you respect your career more. My Lord, she was a feminist in the 1800's, I think she at least deserves your respect. The "calling" I refer to is not God nessasarily whispering to you to go into nursing. It's the realization that being a nurse is much bigger than yourself, and it is a huge responsibility. Do I think that what the nurse that yelled (first she said yelled, then she "raised" her voice) at the "pouting, crying, manipulative" man who was hungry should be fired? Yes I do. Do I think that she should be punished for the rest of her life? No, of course not. But I don't believe she is telling the truth. She saw an orthodontist, a dentist, a doctor, and her new psychologist, who diagnosed her the first time she saw him, cleaned her home, did the laundry, went for a walk, emotionally supported her fiance who was having a bad day at work, got a call for a job working as a civilian nurse that she didn't apply for, but apparently somehow knew she needed work, chased a toad, spent time with her family, applied for other jobs, spent time on this site, I think she said checking it every 15 minutes, cooked tacos with honey in them, watched a movie with her fiance, was very emotionally distraught, got malpractice insurance, who gave her advice, but they gave poor customer service because she wasn't insured at the time of the incident, tried to get anwsers from where she was terninated, I can't remember anything else, and all of this happened in a span of a few days. Just saying, I don't believe her. And I do hope she gets her life together, I just don't think it should be as someone who has to take care of people. She needs to focus on getting well. I believe that people change for awhile when they are told they made a mess of whatever, but eventually return to whatever screwed them up in the first place. Not just her, me, you, all of us.And the first year as a nurse is so stressful, no matter what venue she chooses. It will set her up for failure.
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First off people go into nursing for a variety of reasons. Not all of them care about Florence Nightingale as much as you. Yes we are thankful for her & realize it has come a long way, but we don't have all the same feelings towards Florence Nightingale as you do.
There is no reason the OP shouldn't be a nurse. I believe she came to this site to seek guidance & now comes here to post updates because it makes her feel better. You make it seem like you have never made *one* mistake as a nurse. Unless she starts doing something heinous to patients, there is no reason she can't be a nurse.
I respect your opinion. I just don't agree with you. I have made plenty of mistakes, in life, and in nursing. But I have never yelled at a patient, and i think it is very wrong. Of couse I have wanted to, and more than that, it's usually family members that I've wanted to tell off. But I never have, because I would remove myself from the situation. And people go into nursing for all kinds of reasons yes. But if you can't handle stress, and you loss your cool enough to yell at an elderly man who is hungry, it wasn't the right choice. I am an ADON at a LTC living center, and if that incident would have happened where I work, the same thing would have happened, and it has to be reported to the board of nursing because it's abuse.
Specializes in M/S, LTC, Corrections, PDN & drug rehab.
I respect your opinion. I just don't agree with you. I have made plenty of mistakes, in life, and in nursing. But I have never yelled at a patient, and i think it is very wrong. Of couse I have wanted to, and more than that, it's usually family members that I've wanted to tell off. But I never have, because I would remove myself from the situation. And people go into nursing for all kinds of reasons yes. But if you can't handle stress, and you loss your cool enough to yell at an elderly man who is hungry, it wasn't the right choice. I am an ADON at a LTC living center, and if that incident would have happened where I work, the same thing would have happened, and it has to be reported to the board of nursing because it's abuse.
But once again, it's one mistake out of how many that she will make? How dare you sit up there on your pedestal, point your finger at her & tell her not to be a nurse just because of this one incident.
I'm sure you have made a mistake that would make someone think they wouldn't want you as their nurse. Honestly, from how you are acting on here, I'm starting to wonder if I would ever want you as my nurse. But I know 100% I wouldn't want to work with you because you clearly don't have your coworkers back.
I have worked LTC & it sucks. It is ridiculous the amount of residents they give you & then the amount of work they pile on you is even worse.
By the way, if you read one of her comments she said she just 'rose her voice a bit'. She didn't get in his face yelling & screaming. If you read the OP, the resident was manipulative. So who knows what he told the ADON/DON.
Sigh..... "History and Tradition", "Florence Nightingale" etc. Can we please move on from this nonsense. History of nursing shows we are bullies to each other who took on a role as handmaiden to the great god doctor. It insisted that Sister (Charge Nurse) was always correct - even when she wasn't. Nonsense like the open end of pillow cases had to face away from the door, wheels on beds had to be facing the same way. Petty minded nonsense. If you want to look at tradition, look at the, modern, tradition of evidence based practice. If you want 19th century nursing heroes(heroines) Google Mary Seacole.
I know this is a public forum, and there will be some bad apples, but knowing that there are caring people out there really does help.
I hope you do not mean me.... I called it as I see it. As you say, this is a public forum and as such has been/can be used by people to cause mischief. (Did I just hear someone say "pot and kettle"?). What you wrote over 3 posts made no sense to me time-wise and I was suspicious.
Specializes in Palliative, Onc, Med-Surg, Home Hospice.
You are supposed to. Do you want her taking care of someone you love? I dont. And the mere fact she can listen to the birds, and "lol" plus, she atempted a little toad catching a few days after being fired from her 1st nursing job is amazing to me. She is making excuses for abuse, and not in any of her post did she even mention any remorse of the abuse, and the man she abused, only trying to figure out who dimed her in, that she got caught. I guarantee if the yelling had not been witnessed, she would have not even thought about it the next day. And you so casually mention that you too have been fired from nursing jobs, seems like you feel just awful about your being termed, more than once.
Not in my state. I don't know about others, but I know that in SC, you DO NOT have to report if you have been fired.
In Indiana, when you renew your license there's a list of yes/no questions. One of them is roughly worded "Have you ever been terminated, reprimanded, or relieved of duties..." If you check "yes" to any questions you must include a written explanation of what happened. At least it used to be that way. I haven't practiced there in a few years.
In Indiana, when you renew your license there's a list of yes/no questions. One of them is roughly worded "Have you ever been terminated, reprimanded, or relieved of duties..." If you check "yes" to any questions you must include a written explanation of what happened. At least it used to be that way. I haven't practiced there in a few years.
I hope you are doing better. You came here for advice/comfort. Instead you got some nasty responses that probably added to your stress. Raising your voice to a patient is not ideal but it is not verbal abuse. I cannot forsee that you would be reported to the BON. I can understand that you were terminated for this as lots of places will set you up for failure and then recoil when someone shows signs of cracking under the pressure. That seems to be nursing in 2015: nurses are asked to do so much but now with a smile at all times.
I also find it hard to believe that there are soooooo many people who answered this post who have never ever raised their voice to a patient. It happens to even the most saintly of us. It is definitely a wake up call when it happens.
As far as the original poster feeling sorry for her actions that is probably hard to do at the moment. Getting fired is traumatic and right now the focus is on herself. She will need time and space to sort all this out. It will be an emotional roller coaster for her so it makes sense her posts are all over the place. I think it is quite possible to be compassionate to her. Difficult patients push buttons and often take satisfaction in doing it.
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Bullsheet. Nursing is NOT a calling for all who hold the license!