Dangers of teaching kids they can be boys or girls

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One girl is struggling with her gender, and now 3 girls who are all friends of the first girl, think they are trans and have asked the doctor for hormones.

Two of these girls have issues eg self harm (cutting) and playing with eating disorders.

It appears some young teenagers are substituting typical self-harm strategies with a new way to self harm, and this is to try and change gender.

The UK has gone from 50 gender dysphoria cases a year to over 2000. This is a lie. This has come about because children are being told they can be the opposite gender, and that gender is a social construct.

This is a danger to children, and I'm dealing with it at work.

Can anyone else see the harm this ******** is causing?

Specializes in Critical Care.
Are you actually serious?

How about this biological difference.

XX and XY - tell me which one belongs to which gender.

So someone born with XY chromosomes but who's genitalia is female (which occurs in about 1 in 80,000 births), has what innate gender identity?

Specializes in Ambulatory Care-Family Medicine.

Just because YOU don't agree with it doesn't make the Trans person's feelings any less valid. If you don't agree with it then don't work somewhere that you have to deal with it on a daily basis. If you don't agree with abortion, don't work at Planned Parenthood. If you don't agree with LBGQT teens then don't work with at risk youth. If you can't set your personal feelings aside and take care of your patient in a holistic manner then I'm not sure why you got into this professipn.

A person's sexual or gender preference does not make him/her any less worthy of the very best care that I can provide.

Sexual or gender preference, race, religion, creed, or any other reason that bigoted people use to discriminate against those that are different than themselves should not change the quality of nursing care.

I am a PMHNP who is not sure how to respond. I am also a liberal woman.

That being said, this issue has exploded into our culture in an almost intrusive manner, in just a few short years, basically hijacking the last election. Well, maybe they had a little more help.

If a child, or a young person truly feels they have been born into the wrong gender, I support whatever help they need.

The problem is that some confused people are possibly grabbing on to it as the cause du jour.

Gender-reassignment surgery, or even hormonal therapy, are a damn serious business.

Transgender is nothing new, but mass publicity is recent enough that time is needed to shake it out.

Social consciousness has been raised, but it may be a double-edged sword.

It may take some time to figure out who is transgender, who is gay, who has borderline personality disorder, who has a dysfunctional home life, and who wants to try out veganism this week, and yoga next week.

I have said my piece, and I understand that some people will be offended.

Specializes in Hospice.
I am a PMHNP who is not sure how to respond. I am also a liberal woman.

That being said, this issue has exploded into our culture in an almost intrusive manner, in just a few short years, basically hijacking the last election. Well, maybe they had a little more help.

If a child, or a young person truly feels they have been born into the wrong gender, I support whatever help they need.

The problem is that some confused people are possibly grabbing on to it as the cause du jour.

Gender-reassignment surgery, or even hormonal therapy, are a damn serious business.

Transgender is nothing new, but mass publicity is recent enough that time is needed to shake it out.

Social consciousness has been raised, but it may be a double-edged sword.

It may take some time to figure out who is transgender, who is gay, who has borderline personality disorder, who has a dysfunctional home life, and who wants to try out veganism this week, and yoga next week.

I have said my piece, and I understand that some people will be offended.

Not offended at all. The OP, however, did not seem willing to acknowledge even the possibility that gender might be something other than genetically determined and exclusively binary.

As i implied in my first post, it's important not to oversimplify the problem, including tbe politics.

It's odd, but ALLNURSES won't let me post the link where you can watch as a professor from one your universities says on national TV there is no biological difference.

So assuming what you say is true, then one professor said something stupid. Who cares?!

Specializes in Hospice.
It's odd, but ALLNURSES won't let me post the link where you can watch as a professor from one your universities says on national TV there is no biological difference.

And typing out the name of the professor and the url is beyond you? Nope, still don't bellieve you.

Specializes in MDS/ UR.

Who left the gate open? You have lost your weekend passes till June!

Specializes in CMSRN, hospice.
I admit that I find transgender people very confusing, kind of like Rachel Dolezal who "feels" black but was a blue-eyed blonde at birth. I can't see how it's harmful, though ...so if it makes them happy, I'm happy to go along with it.

To be honest, this is the more confusing/outlandish scenario to me. It makes actual scientific sense that people can be transgender. I don't know of similar theories regarding race and am inclined to raise my eyebrows to that. (But, I'm comfortable admitting that I know nothing about that phenomenon.)

To be honest, this is the more confusing/outlandish scenario to me. It makes actual scientific sense that people can be transgender. I don't know of similar theories regarding race and am inclined to raise my eyebrows to that. (But, I'm comfortable admitting that I know nothing about that phenomenon.)

I do believe there are people who are biologically not clearly male or female. When I think "transgender", I'm thinking of someone who is clearly a biological male or female but "feels" as though they are the opposite.

Specializes in Psych, Addictions, SOL (Student of Life).

This whole thing is just so funny it reminds me of the time my husband went to pick up our then 2 year old son (now 16) from daycare and found him dancing in a TuTu. Oh dear lord you would have thought the gates of h-e double hockey sticks opened up that day. It took me a quite a bit of talking and convincing my husband that the school wasn't trying to make our son gay. I said to him if he gay, he's gay but dancing in a tutu doesn't cause it!

I might add that the boy is now 16 and as far as a parent can tell he is a healthy young man who identifies as a cis-gendered male oriented towards girls.

On another note I work with at risk youth myself and see a fair number of adolescents on the LGBTQ spectrum. Gender dysphoria is an actual disease state in which the person struggles with their gender identity to the point that it produces a lack of functioning and psychological distress. Not all people who identify on LGBTQ spectrum are dysphoric. Unlike the op I have done my research and attended a conference on caring for youths on the LGBTQ spectrum last year. Like another poster said the best way to help a young person who is gender dysphoric is to listen to them and offer support and guidance in decision making. Responsible clinicians perform complete physical and psychological evaluations before considering sex reassignment surgery. I will dig out my sources but I did go the site for the American Psychiatric Nurses Association for their position statement. They are actually still developing it but they do offer a comprehensive list of resources for people interested in the topic. All sources are credible research organizations.

LGBTQ Children and Adolescents - American Psychiatric Nurses Association

Certain things do tend to run in cycles with adolescents and as people become more open to talking about these things our youth start talking about it. The kids I see who are suicidal are not suicidal because they are LGBTQ they are suicidal because they are afraid their parents, teachers, friends etc won't accept them or that they will judge them. There's a great scene from the series "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" which creator Josh Whedon states "Is all about being gay in high school." where the character Willow tells Buffy she's gay and Buffy not knowing what to say say's "That's great Will!" then "Let go to lunch."

I'll see if I can find it on you tube.

I wasn't going to feed the troll but having come from a very conservative (Dare I say bigoted upbringing) I know the kind of damage the people like the OP do. I read somewhere that more than half of young people who question their gender identity in adolescence identify in adulthood as cis-gender. Some will decide they are gay, some will decide they are trans, some will transition some will not but they do not need lectures about morality or judgement from adults who are supposed to be from a caring profession. If the OP is so disturbed by this perhaps he/she should consider a specialty that does not deal with LGBTQ persons. Wait a minute they are everywhere adults, children, seniors etc......Might have to give up nursing entirely and go live in a cave.

Hppy

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Specializes in Psych, Addictions, SOL (Student of Life).
here you go

Is the same Jordan Peterson who performed a "Study" on effects of political correctness. Where he studied the attitudes of one of his students and published his observations. He could not get a credible journal to publish his study so he self published it and went on YOU TUBE to talk about it. He been pretty much discredited not for his views but rather his inability to perform valid research.

Hppy

Specializes in Psych, Addictions, SOL (Student of Life).
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Shave them legs dude!

Hppy

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