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I tried to post on the previous thread about Jahi Mcmath and found it closed. Here is the latest news article.

Jahi McMath: New tests may not be enough to declare her alive, experts say - San Jose Mercury News

It's just a sad situation

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Specializes in hospice.

I'm sorry but when told my loved one was brain dead I would disconnect the machines and call the mortuary once they stopped breathing and having a heart beat. If truly brain dead both of those will cease very quickly.

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I'm sorry but when told my loved one was brain dead I would disconnect the machines and call the mortuary once they stopped breathing and having a heart beat. If truly brain dead both of those will cease very quickly.

it's not that easy for everyone..

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it's not that easy for everyone..

I disagree! In a case of pvs, perhaps it isn't easy, but this isn't pvs, the girl is dead! It makes send to want more than one opinion (which was provided for this family), I would want to see the MRI that showed that major areas of the brain (including the entire corpus colossum) were gone and EEGs that showed zero activity. Once all of that is confirmed, then there is no choice but to let go.

I believe that this is being done for the all mighty dollar. In Cali, there is a $250k cap if a child dies and malpractice is found. There is no cap if a child is left disabled, and the uncle even stated in an interview that $250k was peanuts and they were going to sue for a lot more money. Dolan was sponsor of a bill that removed the cap (it was not successful) as further proof of what this whole sad tale is all about.

Dead is dead, no one recovers from dead. Sane people let go and grieve.

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Specializes in LTC,Hospice/palliative care,acute care.

Obviously she is NOT dead....She is in some type of PVS.

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Specializes in Complex pedi to LTC/SA & now a manager.

DeFina. & IBRF has a new fundraiser posted (not encouraging bad behavior so I'm my posting the link) asking for $500,000 to sustain her life with the (unproven, overpriced) "treatment" offered by IBRF. They have $100 and a lot of comments. Guess gofundme no longer working.

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Specializes in LTC,Hospice/palliative care,acute care.

I'm not going to argue-I happen to believe there is a fate worse then death and she is living it. A year ago I believed she was dead. Her body would be showing more signs of decomp if she was truly brain dead. I think she is in PVS. The fact that we are still talking about her almost a year later is proof enough.

As for the people who say "I would never..." and "if it was my mother..." .No-one truly KNOWS. Over the years I've known several people in the medical field who when a devastating injury or illness struck a loved one they made choices that were in direct opposition with the opinions they espoused for years regarding futile care.

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Specializes in Complex pedi to LTC/SA & now a manager.

The rate of decomposition is slowed by environmental factors and the fact that she is ventilated, "fed" and hydrated. There are signs of decomposition in her fingers. & toes in the photos posted. She seems to not have adequate intrinsic temperature regulation. Her MRI is a mess no sign of brain stem or pituitary , many areas of tissue replaced by CSF. The globes of her eyes are not obvious on the scans shown. No spontaneous respiration effort.

No respiratory effort in the absence of a cervical spine injury and failed apnea tests = brain dead.

No visible brain stem structures on MRI = likely brain dead

Failing bedside clinical brain death examination at least three times in a 2.5 week period = brain death

There has been at least one example of a brain dead child maintained on somatic support for two decades.

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I think the fact that we are still talking a year later demonstrates that we've reached Frankenstein territory with our medical technological capabilities.

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Specializes in Critical Care, ED, Cath lab, CTPAC,Trauma.

We have an entire thread discussing this......https://allnurses.com/nursing-news/girl-brain-dead-907168.html

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We have an entire thread discussing this......https://allnurses.com/nursing-news/girl-brain-dead-907168.html

Esme, that thread's been closed too. I think this is the only one that is still open.

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