Certified nursing assistants not welcome!

[Barbie8808]

So first let me say I myself am a certified nursing assistant so this will not be a blog discriminating against CNA's. But more of a venting session if I must. I was recently invited to a SECRET black nurse organization on one of the most popular social media sites on the web. I was ecstatic to be invited and love every moment of it as I saw it as a chance to receive a wealth of information and access to resources as I am a learning nursing student as well. But this quickly faded as the swarms of members joined and it turned it into a Picture gallery of single sexy nurses across the nation. I'm leading to an event that prompted the admin to make a list of rules one of them being if your not an actual NURSE (lpn or RN) or a nursing student you cannot be apart of this group. Now in my head I'm like whats the discrimination for; cna's are the back bone to nursing itself.As more and more time goes by CNA's are not just helping with toileting and feeding needs (Which to me nursing should be a holistic approach and contributes the overall treatment to the patient) we possess phlebotomy skills and more on the job more skills such ng tube feeds iv and more. It lead to comments being thrown around like "no offense to CNA's but I work hard for my nursing license" "They can join when they become an actual nurse" which never lead to my question which is "SHOULD CNA'S NOT BE INCLUDED IN THE REALM OF NURSING?"

[icuRNmaggie, BSN, RN]

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Here is a link to the National Student Nurses Association, an organization for nursing students. Membership and participation will enhance your resume and open a lot of doors for you upon graduation.

If you are in a BSN program I hope you will join

Sigma Theta Tau International, the honor society for the Nursing profession. The link is above.

[xoemmylouox, ASN, RN]

cna's are the back bone to nursing itself.As more and more time goes by CNA's are not just helping with toileting and feeding needs (Which to me nursing should be a holistic approach and contributes the overall treatment to the patient) we possess phlebotomy skills and more on the job more skills such ng tube feeds iv and more.

CNAs are part of the team of care - not the nursing team, but the healthcare team yes. I do have a problem with CNAs doing IV care, NG feedings, and phlebotomy - I don't know of any programs that train for that. Now if you mean glucose checks - yes some are allowed to do this, but I always just check it myself. I do not put down good staff regardless of their role. We all need to work together to provide the best care for pts - especially with the high patient ratios we all have now. I also wouldn't waste my time on any site that had a bunch of pictures of single "professionals". I suggest you don't waste your time either. Some fights are really not worth it.

[allnurses Admin Team]

Thread moved to CNA forum.

[Barbie8808]

Good morning can you please this back to general nursing. I did not want my post to be limited

[TheCommuter, BSN, RN]

Good morning can you please this back to general nursing. I did not want my post to be limited

The admin team and moderators reserve the right to move posts and threads to forums where they have been deemed to fit more appropriately.

[sirI, MSN, APRN, NP]

Good morning can you please this back to general nursing. I did not want my post to be limited

It will not be limited.

Students, CNAs, as well as Nurses will come along with input.

[Barbie8808]

Thanks I appreciate it!

[Barbie8808]

. I suggest you don't waste your time either. Some fights are really not worth it.

No I disagree with the" some fights are not worth it" People should fight for what they believe in. Personally if NA work under a RN OR LPN how can you one consider them not to be apart of the nursing team and their nurse assistants. I think people may think I'm saying should we call ourselves nurses, and my answer is NO. When I think of care team I think of people such as the lab or pharmacy or the doctors.

[pixiestudent2]

What's the heck is the purpose of this secret black nursing group?

Dating?

Anyways... I completely understand why they have that rule.

Where else do you draw the line? Sitters and housekeepers are part of the healthcare team too.

[babilidose]

CNA's apart of the care team, yes, but they are not nurses. If you're a nursing student, think about how much you learn in your classes that you didn't and don't learn in a cna course. I'm not saying I agree or disagree with this organization, but I find it offensive when a cna/ma/pct calling themselves a nurse. If the organization is for nurses, it's for nurses. Start your own! Maybe that would be a good way for you to start a social media group or trend for ancillary staff and students! But please recognize that nurses and cnas have different responsibilities. There are many professional organizations that will not allow cnas to join.

[mirandaaa]

Personally I feel like it's a great idea to only include nurses and students.

I was in a group page for CNAs and a majority of it was complaints about low pay, working nights, and "selfies" of them at work or asking silly questions that don't pertain to healthcare at all and some absolutely random garbage that should have gone on their personal page, not shared with 40k+ strangers who quite frankly don't care about what color shoes to wear to a wedding or their engagement photo. Once more and more of those people start flooding the group page, it lowers the standard of the page and ruins it for others.

I think it's a great idea to limit it to nurses/nursing students to keep the subject matter on track with nursing. This isn't to say nurses and nursing students don't or can't flood the page with garbage, too, but the likelihood is much less. I'm a member of a nursing student group page and it is only nurses and students and it is wonderful; it's nothing but NCLEX test questions, educational videos, and tons of great advice. I actually left the CNA group page for the student nurse page.

It's not a matter of discrimination against CNAs, but just a matter of keeping the purpose of the group on track.

As far as "we possess phlebotomy skills and more on the job more skills such ng tube feeds iv and more" goes, I've been a CNA for 5 years and I can definitely not claim having phlebotomy skills or tube feedings or IVs. That is not standard practice for CNAs (in fact when I went through the CNA program, we were told we could be terminated and/or lose our certifications for performing any duties outside of our scope of practice and these areas are included). That isn't to say it isn't possible; you can be a CNA and get a tech job at a hospital where they DO train you how to do those things, but for CNAs as a whole, definitely not within SOP.