Can teachers fail students 2 days b/f BSN?

lobeth · Jul 30, 2006

shortage of student to place themselves at a subjective grading method by a sole evaluator .........who can fail you out 2 days before BSN..........where does this leave the hard working women??

lobeth · Jul 30, 2006

subjective grading will fail half of you due to bias evaluators

SilentfadesRPA · Jul 30, 2006

this is terrible for you and i am sorry that you are going through this.

some questions i do have:

did you do some critical error?
what and when in your opinion started this conflict?
why was the instructor and staff were not in a cooperative effort for your learning expirience?
did you do your assignments or readings or did you miss any time ?
is this woman/man approachable in considering a grade change to at least a pass?
is anyone at your school supportive or have any resolution?
if you have to repeat this would it be with the same instructor and in the same unit ?
what was the courses objective data to meet and how did she document that you did not meet this ?
were you given a written warning of potential non pass ?
with a high gpa and other clinicals passed how does she justify this ?
did you know this was coming and not talk or have a meeting with her to regroup and give you both a fresh start ?
what in your opinion was the objective reason for this ?

i am not asking these questions to put you on the defensive but to help you look objectively at the possible reasons (and as well to help persons here get a better picture )

please do not take these as blaming questions.

yes a clinical instructor can give the grade they feel is right to give. however there must be some supporting criteria (that is not all subjective) to validify thier findings.

do you honestly think that this was a total group witch hunt with you being the victim? if so, then legal remedy toward your school may be the only solution.

i went with to nrsg school with a student in the same situation -- total honors and yet failed ob-gyn -- it was clear the instructor despised her for no clear reason. she even told other students this student would not be graduating with our class. (professional ethics???? -- this is what hung the instructor and almost the school as she had a history of doing this)

well the student did graduate and was class valdictorian!!!

her lawyer and parents were at the reception but not the ob gyn instructor. lol

my co student, the last i knew,is the clinical director of obgyn at a well known hospital in ny. who knew ? lol

try not to go legal but do what you have to do if in your heart you know you sincerely were treated wrong and there is no other options.

with all the best of luck

marc

EricJRN, MSN, RN · Jul 30, 2006

It's hard to understand all of the issues at work here when things are spread out in different threads and different forums.

Mulan · Jul 30, 2006

Did you make a medical error and someone died and then you were failed because of it? Is that what you're saying? Please clarify.

KellieNurse06 · Jul 30, 2006

And above all.. refuse & do NOT sign anything that states you agree/accept this instructors determination. This will just say you agree with whatever she says for not passing you...

Bala Shark · Jul 30, 2006

During my last semester of nursing school and just 2.5 months before graduating, I was put on the probation list..Some instructors would wait till the end to do you in..During first or second semester, the instructor will not say anything then, "Bam, the last semster." I dont think it is fair but it happened to me like that..Well, I did graduate thou..

Gompers, BSN, RN · Jul 30, 2006

As these beaches on wheels attempt to fail you they actually allow a medical error to occur and patient dies.......this happens as subjective grading does to fail a student

First of all, starting 10 new threads in the matter of minutes all about the exact same topic isn't going to win you any sympathy. Second of all, we have no clue what you did and why you think the instructor was being unfair. All you are doing is ranting here, so until you tell us exactly what happened, we can't help you.

You're basically saying that an instructor let you make an error that caused a patient death. That's a pretty heavy claim, and until you tell your story, I don't think a single person here is going to believe you. Nursing instructors don't purposely let students make mistakes, especially mistakes so critical that a patient dies. Explain please.

suzy253, RN · Jul 30, 2006

Some very sketchy info here and all spread out over various threads on the board.

What exactly happened?

purplemania, BSN, RN · Jul 30, 2006

Speaking as former instructor I will say that sometimes it is not a matter of intentionally waiting to fail someone, but the someone fails because their behavior & skills do not match the increasingly demanding requirements. You might not fail the first semester because it is less demanding than the last. Also, I have had scary students who got too comfortable the last semester and started making their own rules about attendance and other issues. Once in a while a student scared me enough to believe they would not be safe on the floor and I did not want to risk MY license for that person. Happens infrequently, but happens. I hope you get your situation worked out and can gain some positive spin on this situation. At the very least, you have learned how NOT to do things if you were an instructor. Good luck.

Home Health Columnist / Guide · Jul 30, 2006

I am merging the multiple threads you've made on this subject here. They may show just why you did not get passed for this class.

A professional RN requires more than just book knowledge to be a competent and caring professional.

Lashing out with derogatory posts using incendiary foul language will not solve your situation until you look at the real reasons behind your behavior here and your clinical situation.

Please seek professional help on this issue and follow with moderator contacts.