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Hi everyone, call out in holiday can cause you trouble?

Tenebrae said:

Do you not get penal rates for working public holidays?

Yes we do, not always quite as much as what you described, but some people don't care about the money (or their co-workers evidently). 

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Tenebrae said:

Do you not get penal rates for working public holidays?

The running joke for us is that if someone calls off sick on a public holiday then they must be really sick. 

We get double time, plus. day in lieu for a public holiday

I think your eemployers are screwing nurses

Yes, American employers generally have Holiday pay on the major holidays, there are usually 6 Holidays that are paid, New Years, Memorial Day, Independence Day, Labor Day, Thanksgiving and Christmas.  A few employers offer Holiday pay plus another day off though that's not as common here.

But most employers do not pay the Holiday Pay if an employee is scheduled that day and many do not allow unscheduled PTO on the Holiday so if somebody  calls out they lose two days pay.  So that the same as where you are.  Another kicker in the US is many employers will not pay out the Holiday if an employee misses their scheduled day before or after the Holiday as well as the Holiday itself. 

When I was in an hourly paid position I never minded working my share of the Holidays, as much as I didn't want to be at work Christmas Day my patients wanted to be there even less and they still need care.

 

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Tenebrae said:

Do you not get penal rates for working public holidays?

The running joke for us is that if someone calls off sick on a public holiday then they must be really sick. 

We get double time, plus. day in lieu for a public holiday

I think your eemployers are screwing nurses

I'm not sure what "penal rates" means since in American English the word "penal" revolves around criminality.  LOL.  We call it "holiday pay".  We get time and a half for holidays.  Some places give double time (like my first job) but my current employer it's time and a half.

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BSNRN_ said:

Bc it's at night, the holiday for night shift in my hospital is the night before, and my bday is the next day, I don't wanna be all day sleeping in my bday 

Part of being an adult is sometimes having to work days or time that we would rather not.

Especially when we enter professions that are 24/7 and provide essential services. Hospitals never close. Some caregivers leave bedside for more stable schedules, while others learn to adapt.

In 2024, all the Winter holidays are Tuesday, Weds, Thursday. Schedule your celebration for the weekend. In the meantime, postponing once is not the end of the world.

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I grew up with a father who worked shift works and  often worked holidays. As a family we just expected to schedule our celebration around his schedule. So when I entered nursing, working around holidays was natural. I don't understand this insistence to have the specific day on the calendar off. I've been told by newer staff that I didn't need holidays off because my children were grown. Excuse me, I would like to be able to prepare a nice meal without being dog tired. 

Christmas and Thanksgiving were usually easy shifts with low census and lots of food provided by docs and families. One co-worker collected little gifts through the year, then wrapped them and gave them to patients who had to be hospitalized on Christmas. 

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We get an extra 8 hours for the Holidays. We only get four . New Years ,July 4th, Thanksgiving and  Christmas. Most of my family works in healthcare. We always worked it out .

 

 

 

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I'd imagine the penalty for calling out on holidays varies from employer to employer. It's assumed you will get in "trouble," but simply looking at your hospital's call out policy. My hospital had no penalty for doing so, it was frowned up, but nothing ever happened. We always had the same people call out on holidays with no penalties.

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BSNRN_ said:

Bc it's at night, the holiday for night shift in my hospital is the night before, and my bday is the next day, I don't wanna be all day sleeping in my bday 

Welcome to adulthood. Birthdays aren't a reason to miss work. 

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Tweety said:

When you call off there is no one that is going to come in and you're screwing your coworkers.  

Not to mention the patients who will receive a lower quality of care.  

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Tweety said:

I'm not sure what "penal rates" means since in American English the word "penal" revolves around criminality.  LOL.  We call it "holiday pay".  We get time and a half for holidays.  Some places give double time (like my first job) but my current employer it's time and a half.

Double time is great, but be thankful you at least get time and a half.  My old facility didn't even do that.  (And they never could figure out why nobody stayed there long?? LOL).  In all seriousness, holiday incentive pay is probably the easiest way for hospitals to ensure they have coverage.  Especially in situations like my old one that depend on PRN staff picking it up.  We had all our full time employees on either day or night shift but had two mid shifts (10-10 and 12-12) that were entirely staffed by PRNs.  Unsurprisingly these spots were never staffed on Christmas.  The PRN staff were required to work one holiday each year but by Christmas they had long since worked another one.  One of the young guys told admin if they'd pay more on holidays he'd work every one. I'm sure others would have too. 

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I didn't really mind working the floor on holidays.  The extra pay was nice, staff generally had a break room potluck, and the phone wasn't constantly ringing. 

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mdsRN2005 said:

Double time is great, but be thankful you at least get time and a half.  My old facility didn't even do that.  (And they never could figure out why nobody stayed there long? LOL).  In all seriousness, holiday incentive pay is probably the easiest way for hospitals to ensure they have coverage.  Especially in situations like my old one that depend on PRN staff picking it up.  We had all our full time employees on either day or night shift but had two mid shifts (10-10 and 12-12) that were entirely staffed by PRNs.  Unsurprisingly these spots were never staffed on Christmas.  The PRN staff were required to work one holiday each year but by Christmas they had long since worked another one.  One of the young guys told admin if they'd pay more on holidays he'd work every one. I'm sure others would have too. 

This is true.  My first job that paid double time had a sign up list for people that wanted to work on Xmas Day and they never had trouble staffing it with volunteers.

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