BSN from 4 year program required

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A friend of mine was recently looking at utilization review positions and ran across this:

BSN from a 4 year program required.

So that means of course that an ADN who chose to advance their education to a BSN, will be excluded, even though they come with years of experience.

There will be no reason for ADN's to advance their education if they do not have any opportunity in other fields.

I'm sure this is money driven. Why else would an employer limit their applicants to 4-year program BSNs who may be new grads with little to no experience?

Thoughts?

Specializes in PICU.

On a resume you would put down the College or University and then the degree obtained. I don't think you would have to put that it was a bridge program since the only thing required to place on a resume would be that you attended University A and degree obtained, University B and degree obtained

Specializes in Certified Med/Surg tele, and other stuff.

I bridged into a BSN program at a state university approximately 18 years ago, and the ADN-BSN students took all (or definitely most) of the nursing classes together with the BSN students. As far as I know the same situation exists today at the university I attended.

Oh, that doesn't happen here. The RN-BSN are their own separate entities at our state U's.

Specializes in Certified Med/Surg tele, and other stuff.
On a resume you would put down the College or University and then the degree obtained. I don't think you would have to put that it was a bridge program since the only thing required to place on a resume would be that you attended University A and degree obtained, University B and degree obtained

They could certainly figure out by work and school history. If one had Hillside Community College and then a work history for 5 years and THEN Big Bucks University with a recent graduation date.

Oh, that doesn't happen here. The RN-BSN are their own separate entities at our state U's.

I learned something new - thank you.

You know what,i was just thinking about all of this.

What hurdle do we have to jump through now to get a job?

Well,this is it.

I kind of felt employers were going to be up to new tricks anyway.

First,its employers in my area asking for GPA.

Some other areas,employers will reject you for failing Nclex 2 times,even if you passed on the 3rd try.

Some employers do not want Rn's who obtained the Bsn from online Rn-Bsn universities.

What could possibly be next?

Specializes in Certified Med/Surg tele, and other stuff.

They will be up to their bag of tricks until the glut of nurses softens and the pendulum swings back again and there is a shortage.

What I find interesting is the interpretation of what people think a "BSN from a 4 year program required" really means.

Specializes in Management, ER, psych.

smartnurse1982, how would it be known how many tries it took one to pass the NCLEX? I have never seen that asked on an app...

Specializes in MICU - CCRN, IR, Vascular Surgery.

My guess is that next, it will be BSN required, MSN preferred, DNP/PhD highly preferred, and all for a big pay decrease! I've already seen a thread in this section that said BSN required, MSN preferred.

Specializes in UR/CM, Managed Care.
What I find interesting is the interpretation of what people think a "BSN from a 4 year program required" really means.

I think it means exactly what it says - 4 year program - late bloomers need not apply. It would be one thing if the requirements were accreditation-specific, such as "BSN acquired from a CCNE accredited program" or a requirement that actually means something in the world of nursing.

Next time I see this ridiculousness in print (or online), I may just call them up and ask them to explain their rationale.

Specializes in Critical Care.
tokmom, I'm understanding the wording differently, as in "BSN from a 4 year program required" would include ADN-BSN's who participate in the last several semesters of a 4 year program.[/quote

What makes you say this?

Maybe I'm confused. I have never heard of an ADN merging into the last 2 years of a BSN program. Those students are always in their own program, away from the typical 4 yr nursing student. In my neck of the woods anyway.

Actually my ADN is from a non profit university and offered both ADN and BSN as well as RN to BSN options. If I had chose I could have finished my BSN from them, but for practical and financial reasons I did not. I've heard they will be phasing out the ADN option, but I don't know when. Granted this option was unique and I don't know of any other colleges in the area that had such an option. This college was originally started as a teaching college and eventually offered a full range of majors from liberal arts to business. They had a mission to make education accessible to all rather than elitist like a Jesuit university. Like PrismRN my ADN has served me well all these years and allowed me to make a living wage while helping others.

There is no point in fretting over changing job requirements. They are what they are. If you are an ADN and worried you can always go on for a BSN thru a university that offers an RN to BSN option. I would expect that would suffice. If not, then the job wasn't the right one anyway. Many people choose RN to BSN programs that are not from a brick and mortar college because they are more flexible. Plenty of regular colleges and universities are getting into the game and offering flexible weekend, one day a week, or online options to compete for your money!

Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
They will be up to their bag of tricks until the glut of nurses softens and the pendulum swings back again and there is a shortage.

I very much hope that all of us take note of the behavior of these hospitals and remember it when they are desperate for nurses.

smartnurse1982, how would it be known how many tries it took one to pass the NCLEX? I have never seen that asked on an app...

I know you were asking smartnurse1982, but I will tell you that anyone can access the number of NCLEX attempts a person has made in my state, on the public nursing website. That's if you know a nurses first and last name and have a general idea about which city/town they live in. If you pass on the first try, it shows. If not, it will permanently show ' closed' and the date.

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