Title says it all . Second semester baby nurse in clinicals at a major hospital.
Patients = Awesome
Most Nurses = Very sweet and helpful
Some nurses are rude, terse, horrible with patients, horrible with students and horrible with each other.
To those nurses I say this, please retire.
Its only a matter of time before management figures out they can live without you and hire some very hungry and very competent new grads that want to be there to fill your dusty shoes....
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sadly the vast majority of the time these happen to also be charge nurses....in charge of what? Misery?
Specializes in Emergency Dept. Trauma. Pediatrics.
Circling vultures- that what comes to my mind also. Then after they have shoved us out of OUR well deserved positions- they want to do away with social security- which WE have had deducted out of OUR checks for YEARS, YEARS and more YEARS, not theirs. Then, these self proclamed princes and princesses want to hack medicare to Hell, and out of the other side of their lip gloss and folicle molding pastes- spout off bulls*** hypocracy of "Aging in Place" Can any of these youngens tell us where that place is or what is to replace these programs that our boomer generation have paid money into all our WORKING life, Of course not. I think we are OWED an answer in terms of an equitable alternative. How about a cumulative 1 lump sum pay out!! How's that for a sense of entitlement! This young pack of vultures owe us boomers- give us ALL our social security and medicare money that is owed to us after we've worked for 30-40 yrs and you can have these " Barbie dreamboat jobs"(how sickening, quick- go grab the insulin) and point us to the nearest over 55 living community!! With their comical sense of entitlement( did your parents have to work for your pampers or were thay presents from heaven?), and willingness to do more with less( aka poor quality care) I'm willing to bet that there more than one of us old bitter dried up nurses you don't want as a patient or as an ever watchful family member!
"Rude"- rude is shoveing, pushing or conniving some one out of their job, a position they held before the god's gift to nursing came bee bopping along. that's rude. That's the same kind of person who would shove some one ahead of them out of a line just because they believe they should be first. The circling vultures. Rude is the attention seeker- the one who talks over someone already speaking. The one you walk away from when you see them coming. Rude is the "it's all about me" attitude. Rude is some who has no respect for their elder nurse coworkers who are their mothers age- I have bit my tongue more times than I careto count and walked away. Rude is a brat that needs to go home and talk to their mothers/familythe way we are talked to.
Teach- I don't want to teach this new breed of nurses(ages 30 -50) anything because of their attitude. I don't want to be around them any more than I have to!!
So older nurses shouldn't be generalized but it's perfectly acceptable to generalize an entire generation of people if they are younger??? If you are between 30-50 you must be one of these terrible people you so rudely describe. I respect my elders, but being older then me does NOT give you the right to treat me like garbage. Respect goes both ways. Rude is the person that would completely trash an entire generation and not realize people and their actions are individual. I can assure you I might fall into that age range of 30-50 but I was not raised with an entitled attitude and I am not the person you have so rudely described in 2 posts now.
BTW a lot of us have paid into SS and Medicare as well for many many years and it probably won't be around at ALL when we get to the age to use it. Not even a little bit.
Your post right before this one is the same kind of bitterness and rudeness talked about but it's reversed. Instead of saying "old" you are singling out the "young" while generalizing everyone of that age group into your tirade.
Specializes in Peds/outpatient FP,derm,allergy/private duty.
I only come off as combative because I won't agree with your nonsense that being rude is okay
read my posts again
you just can't handle someone telling the truth and maybe its a thorn in your side
I was in a pretty good mood until you got up in my face about what I should be doing and what a nurse should do and what service is . . .I don't need your lectures, thank you. I'm not really a Tom Cruise fan, either.
because you are that nurse the OP was referring to..
You mean you think I'm bitter and dried up? Not at all.
I am a professional in all areas of my life...This is a career change for me not my entry into the working world..however unlike yourself rather than remain in a career that I was no longer happy with
]I never said any such thing. How carefully are you reading other people's posts before you spring back at them?
and make everyone else miserable
The nurses who orient under me think I'm the bomb. Seriously. Rid yourself of the negativity cloud.
I chose to reeducate myself...I am extremely pleasant and respectful to those who exhibit the same behaviors to me and sometimes to those who arent'
You arrived here swinging with loads of all caps and rows of exclamation points. Not generally considered pleasant and respectful in cyberspace.
Fact being you get what you give and if Your walking around being rude to people because you have tenure then maybe in addition to adjusting your attitude you should mature.
I haven't been rude at all. Maybe we should take a poll and see if your perceptions might be a bit skewed. You just insulted me personally . . . and gratuitously . . . do you even know that?
You took it personal because it hit a nerve in you and quite frankly perhaps you should take the time to read the entire thread and then respond appropriately. I can see that your main problem is that you think because you have tenure that you know everything, and by the way you never presented yourself in a good mood on none of your posts in this thread - - and I don't need to poll anyone to form my opinion, your thread above further substantiates what I've written thus far......so with that being said, enjoy the rest of your night - I know that I will..
Specializes in Peds/outpatient FP,derm,allergy/private duty.
You took it personal because it hit a nerve in you and quite frankly perhaps you should take the time to read the entire thread and then respond appropriately. I can see that your main problem is that you think because you have tenure that you know everything, and by the way you never presented yourself in a good mood on none of your posts in this thread - - and I don't need to poll anyone to form my opinion, your thread above further substantiates what I've written thus far......so with that being said, enjoy the rest of your night - I know that I will..
Pleasant dreams:lol2:
Please stop telling me what I think, what kind of mood I'm in, why I say things, or whether or not anything hit a nerve. Do I need to point out that it's far more likely that I'm telling the truth than it is that I'm a liar and you are able to read my mind?
By the way, I don't think the term "tenure" is applicable to nursing as it is to other fields, at least in a formal sense. It would be great if it helped protect nurses with 30+ years of service from being summarily fired for some flimsy reason. From your point of view that would likely be seen as a positive, though. Good night, everyone! ✿❤✿❤✿❤✿
So older nurses shouldn't be generalized but it's perfectly acceptable to generalize an entire generation of people if they are younger??? If you are between 30-50 you must be one of these terrible people you so rudely describe. I respect my elders, but being older then me does NOT give you the right to treat me like garbage. Respect goes both ways. Rude is the person that would completely trash an entire generation and not realize people and their actions are individual. I can assure you I might fall into that age range of 30-50 but I was not raised with an entitled attitude and I am not the person you have so rudely described in 2 posts now.
BTW a lot of us have paid into SS and Medicare as well for many many years and it probably won't be around at ALL when we get to the age to use it. Not even a little bit.
Your post right before this one is the same kind of bitterness and rudeness talked about but it's reversed. Instead of saying "old" you are singling out the "young" while generalizing everyone of that age group into your tirade.
wow! this thread is still rippin n ragin...impressive. I am so grateful to be considered at 50 to be one of the young punks...you can't imagine! I feel dried up and ready to retire but I haven't met my financial goals yet (somewhere beyond living under a viaduct and standing in line at the foodbank and shelter.) I truly do feel like somedays I would rather chew my arm off than talk to anyone in management. I don't always love to nurture new life (new grads) but, I'll be damned if I'll ever let myself give into the temptation to be mean to someone on purpose, what goes around comes around. Sadly, I remember the negative people a lot longer than the positive or neutral people in my early days. I'm gonna work on reversing that.
I am responsible for my own behavior and my own happiness.
It is nearly impossible for me to change other people, change must occur within themselves.
It breaks my heart that people go through this very short period of time called life feeling unhappy which is perhaps a result of feeling unloved.
I believe that love and interconnectedness with eachother is what gives life meaning and purpose.
So what can I do? I can do my best to be a beacon in the night. I can care for those who no one else will care for. I can display compassion for those that most of society feel are undeserving of compassion.
When I percieve that another person is being mean or rude to me I can be non-judgemental and understand in my heart that they probably have reasons for acting they way they are acting....
I could keep rambling but i think you guys can kind of extrapolate from here....
I remember the first time I saw Avatar....there was a scene where all of the alien planets indigenous "indians" for lack of a better word all came together and all of them laid hands upon eachother and they were all physically connected and then by default spiritually connected.....
I cried during that scene because I so long to live my life like that. Many times I feel like an island, alone, yet surrounded by so many members of my species.
I am forced to find love from other species such as dogs and cats who love unconditionally....
I just for the life of me cannot understand why we must tear eachother down rather than lift eachother up.....
As I said before the reason I chose nursing as my second career is that I have this enormous pool of love in my heart but no one wants it..so I figured that maybe people who were ill might want it......so I will try to give some to them and see how it goes........
I will let the universe do the rest....
Sometimes I feel like I must be from another planet, maybe like Gonzo from Muppets in Space LOL
God I hope that someday we can be a united people, one tribe living for the good of the tribe..
I know it is pie in the sky but sometimes hope is all we have right?
I love how when some one exposes/ site examples of the negative behaviors observed in the 30-50 yr old age group they are labeled as 'Rude'. Those behaviors are the halmarks of your generation. It's not the older nurses who are circling like vulltures for another nurse to pushed out of their jobs. When us older nurses we your age- we we mostly on the shifts or in positions we took to "get our foot in the door" There were older nurses than us who had the "prized" position or shift- it was deemed their' priviledge' because they had waited for that position themselves. Example: When we were in our 30's we worked evenings or nights with WE rotation, the older nurses were straigt day shift no WE or HOL: M-F that was a psoition they themselves waited for, that was a position we waited for- through a retirement on the old nurses own terms. We did not circle them like a vulture, rep[ort, criticize them professionally and personally to the manangement to 'get them KICKED OUT of their jobs. We PATIENTLY waited for them to retire on their own terms. That was the PROFESSIONAL, RESPECTFUL and DECENT way to do things. We went about our daily routine, gave them the respect they deserved because of thier age and years of experience and when they retired which was a right THEY earned, put in for the open position. We DID NOT "help" them out of their jobs. We didn't come on the unit on day one with thy attitude "Here I am all you lucky people, I am here to show you how to do your job, I have arrived" and decide 'I want her job, it's mine' and make that older more experienced nurse's life so miserable they were either fired, laid off or ran out the door in DISCRACE. This kind of cold blooded aggressiveness is not a halmark of us boomers. It is a personality trait of the 30-50 yr olds.
The talking over some one already talking is another example: My manager was asking me about a problem family I was assigned to. This family has been assigned to a 35 yr old nurses team, My manager was away when I had the issue- and when the doctor and I put an end to the issue. I was mid sentace telling my manager about the steps we took when this 35 yr old nurse butted in and started talking about "Oh this family is a mess, they did this and that on my team and I was so beside my self , yaddayadda yadda, like a MOTOR MOUTH and dominated the conversation- I stopped talking and my manager walked away, this nurse followed the manager and continued to tell her tale of personal tribulation. That's is inappropriate. If I were the manager I would have turned around and said ZIP IT, I wasn't asking you, I was asking _____!If the manager was from my generation that's what would have been said. Is that rude, NO. Rude is speaking out of turn!! Rude: I also work with a 40 yr old PA- this PA thinks because they do their charting during their lunch, they can leave 1 hour early. What this PA doen't realize is, they are assigned to work up to a certain time just in case of a patient proble arises. This PA left and left me to address undone patient issues never notified me that these things we undone just dumped them in my lap and left for the WE. That RUDE!! I was addressing the issue of the above problem family with the medical director, this PA comes flying over and starts talking- had nothing to do with this family but just over heard and butted in- What the He** is that all about? The medical director is my age and gave this 40 yr old PA a look. This is the interactional style of the 30-50 yr old age group. Were they ever taught the rules of polite conversation?? Observe 2 baby boomers having a conversation- see if they cut each other off and butt into others conversations that don't concern them.
There used to be rules to behavior- this 30-50 yr old age group does not have them. and others not their age take OFFENSE to them. It can not be expected the boomer generation is not going to adopt these behaviors because they are soooo OFFENSIVE. The boomers are going to abruptly walk away from you - they are offended, hense I am. When these older nurses walk away from you- reflect on your self to see if it was something you did to offend them.
This interactional style of the 30-50 yr old age group behavior is like children in a playground with no adult supervsion/ leadership. Perform this way in front of your own age group but do not do this performance infront of boomer nurses- they don't like it. You are 'tolerated'--- because you have to be not because you are accepted. The boomers play by different behavior rules!! You 30-50 yr olds are hired because you are cheaper to employ, not because your better. If money wans't an object- I don't think alot of you would be employed- because of your ethics and interactional style.
Customer service crap- dosn't set to well with boomers. We are not customer sevice reps, we are nurses and yes, nurse must do unpleasant things to patients- examples injections, IV's, prep for tests, the entire technical skills set of a nurse is filled with unpleasantries- it's a hospital not a hotel!! This customer service philosophy do not originate with the boomers- this is the CEO BS of the gen x er's. Observe the age groups of the patient's who focus on and EXPECT customer service over skilled competent nursing care vs the age group of those who don't!! Those who EXPECT the nurse to be a go fetch person are younger. Those who you give nursing care to are usually the elderly.
Dried up bitter nurses- I don't think so. Those are nurses who have and are OFFENDED by the allowable goings on in these healthcare institutions today- a world they did not make. They are nurses who believe they are their to perform nursing care not hotel concierge, the treatment of illnes is not a thin mint on the pillow. Need to retire- I don't think so- if they did- there would be alot of dead patients(young and old)!!
The is not longer a generation gap- it a clash of irreconcilable differences.
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mindlor
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Thanks Trina
I think you and I would get along famously :) I am a guy btw ;0 Just sayin lol
I also want to say that I admire and respect all of you, regardless of your position in this thread.....
A big hug to ALL and to ALL a good night :)