Title says it all . Second semester baby nurse in clinicals at a major hospital.
Patients = Awesome
Most Nurses = Very sweet and helpful
Some nurses are rude, terse, horrible with patients, horrible with students and horrible with each other.
To those nurses I say this, please retire.
Its only a matter of time before management figures out they can live without you and hire some very hungry and very competent new grads that want to be there to fill your dusty shoes....
word...
sadly the vast majority of the time these happen to also be charge nurses....in charge of what? Misery?
Mi9 Vita Loca Rn - I double you have paid into social security and medicare nearly the same as some one who hasw worked 30-40 yrs at the ripe old age of 31!. As for trina and mindlor- maybe nursing is not for the 2 of you. Rolling over and playing dead for the management is not going to keep your patients alive. Your attitude of' my way or the highway' is something less than desireable- it's tyranical.
Come on Jenni I know you must have something more insightful to say than that yes?
You are the same age as my children and they too like to just drop little two - five word snippets on their FB pages and leave to other to try to figure out what they meant or what they are thinking or feeling...
The trbl is that most of us can't read minds....so please, try to articulate
And yes, Avatar....
I thought it was a brilliant film but this is not a movie critic forum lol
And to the poster who wrote the extremely long paragraph with no line breaks.....that is really hard to read....
Break it up a bit and more will read what you have to say :) Just friendly advice :)
Mi9 Vita Loca Rn - I double you have paid into social security and medicare nearly the same as some one who hasw worked 30-40 yrs at the ripe old age of 31!. As for trina and mindlor- maybe nursing is not for the 2 of you. Rolling over and playing dead for the management is not going to keep your patients alive. Your attitude of' my way or the highway' is something less than desireable- it's tyranical.
*gives KC a hug*
I am not sure what you are talking about but have you actually read the whole thread?
Patients are in the past, all new nursing literatture refers to those who you call patients as clients...
If you talk with Shrek he will tell you that all the new nursing literature refers to them as clients....its not my opinion it is the ANA and the nurse leaders who are driving this change so dont shoot the messenger eh? Fire of a nasty gram to the ANA and mosby and Elsevier and all of the publishers who create educational material for nursing schools......
Mindlor let the post die you can't reason with the bitter, rude nor the uninformed. Shake your head and shake it off and make a difference where you can. Hate or love it colleges are graduating NEW nurses in record numbers. Some people hate change and are unhappy with themselves and life so matter how much love and kindness is shown to them they will never be able to receive. So I say on to the next web will both make awesome nurses and the creator will place awesome people in our path to help us develop so no worries for the future which begins in 6 months for me because I am a Dec 2011 BSN grad.
30 to 50.....you've completely written off two generations in one swoop. That's very unfair, and an enormous generalization to make. I do respect my elders, but respect is earned, and it is always a two way street. As I mentioned in an earlier post, here it comes again. Young vs old. There is really no need, and people should be judged on an individual basis.
Good luck to you Trina I am but a humble 05/12 ADN guy
Actually, I envy the ADN folks at my school because they get all the skills training...the BSN is heavy on the books and theory, I actually think that we should be skilled prepared like our ASN cohorts but according to the school it prepares you for MGT, if that's the route one wishes to take....but I would think at MGT level you still should have the skill set to back you up, so that you will be well rounded...a couple of years back someone actually told me that I should consider the ASN route - get a job then go back for the BSN. Hindsight is everything, I actually think that it would have made my BSN pursuit so much more easier.
Good luck to you also, I am sure I'll see you "out here" again:heartbeat
Bah, my ADN program likes to think it is heavy on skills but that is a facade. They are much more concerned with theory, our ability to complete utterly meaningless projects and expecting us to remember every interaction with our clients verbatim so that we can write IPAs....LOL
My med surge clinicals are actually taking place on an Oncology/Nehprology unit so we have not had the opportunity to insert foleys, NG tubes etc...
There are SOOOO many Nursing programs that clinical space is at a premium and often not relevent to what we are studying....
Another problem I see with many nursing programs is that they embrace the premise that new grads are "novice nurses" and their attitude seems to be that the hospitals will train us in the skills in the way they wish them to be performed.....
I think this is very dangerous thinking. If I were in HR at a hospital and a nursing program continually sent me new grads that had no to limited skill sets I would take notice and adjust my hiring behaviors accordingly......
In truth I think that ADN programs may need to go the way of the dodo and that perhaps the hospital certificate programs may need to be resusitated...
However, since you compared the profession to a waitress, your words not mine just remember that nursing is a position of service. You are paid to care/provide a service to patients/clients.
and that service would be assisting pt in recovering...not coffee, not cleaning, not kissing ass.
but then again, i wouldn't mind a cop (another service profession) giving me some wine with that ticket.
I would agree with you Mindlor....which is probably part of the problem as to why new grads are having a tough time finding a job - - see if you can volunteer at a hospital along the way, I know some of my classmates work as CNA I and II's, I don't but the volunteer opportunities I take whenever school is not soaking up all of my time. My clinical is on an Oncology/Med-Surg floor as well, plus we get a lot of overflow from other areas. I haven't done a lot of the skills you referred to either, but we'll see what this final semester brings. So far, I've had some awesome clinical leaders and they've been great with placing me with nurses who are not only well skilled but willing to share their knowledge. Once school is over, I've notice through my own personal research that the hospitals offer a lot of additional certifications and training opportunities. (I plan to take as many as I can my first couple of years in the field.)
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Mi9 Vita Loca Rn - I double you have paid into social security and medicare nearly the same as some one who hasw worked 30-40 yrs at the ripe old age of 31!. As for trina and mindlor- maybe nursing is not for the 2 of you. Rolling over and playing dead for the management is not going to keep your patients alive. Your attitude of' my way or the highway' is something less than desireable- it's tyranical.