Arnold Schwartzneiger says "We need to create more nurses"

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What are we objects? When he announced last night that he would be running for Governor again he said he was running again because "we need to create more ER Rooms, more hospitals, more nurses". I am all for more hospitals but you dont CREATE nurses. We are people!!!! It would also help to have more Nursing School Programs dont you think? There's a reason why there is a Nurse shortage and I think that a big part of it has to do with the fact that half of the people that want to become nurses are on a waiting list somewhere.

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We ought to send this thread to Arnie himself. It should be a good wake up call for him. See what is really on Nurses minds!!!! I would love to see his reaction and what he would do about it.

I wish I believed it would faze him in the least, but believe me, it wouldn't. You should hear some of the stunts he's tried or is trying to pull against police, firefighters and teachers in our state.

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If every immigrant to this country could be brought here by Joe Weeder

they would all live the American Dream. Given a job, place to live and

possibly all the pot he could smoke, let's not forget the steroids, and all

he had to do was lift weights and plug his sponsors product. He really worked hard to get ahead.

And I am sure you have evidence of his pot smoking and steroid use..........

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And I am sure you have evidence of his pot smoking and steroid use..........

Actually, he freely admits to have smoked pot. Just google Arnie and pot, and you'll get loads of hits.

http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,12404,00.html?newsrellink

My problem with him has nothing to do with smoking pot thirty years ago, but the decisions he's been making in the here and now.

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I stand corrected and apologize..........I did a search and found where Gov. S did admit to using steroids and also smoking pot. I was wrong, so please let me live another day :crying2:

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I stand corrected and apologize..........I did a search and found where Gov. S did admit to using steroids and also smoking pot. I was wrong, so please let me live another day :crying2:

No problem, we liberals have big hearts.

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if mabey California would use LPNs in the hospitals-mabey just mabey

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if mabey California would use LPNs in the hospitals-mabey just mabey

No maybe about it - we do use LVN's.

steph

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hi! i just want to say something regarding arnold. i'm a filipino nurse i just recently passed the local board and there are gossips about arnold saying that he doesn't want filipino nurses to work abroad... is this true? or just another nonsense issue? and regarding to what he said well i think he should try to clear what he meant because he might hurt somebody... especially us, nurses...
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I just graduated in May 2005. What a long strage trip it's been. This was a career change for me. Came from the corporate world with 20 years experience. I did a paper in school on the nurse instructor shortage. This is where a main bottleneck is to get NEW nurses out there. There are about 5000 QUALIFIED applicants turned away each year. There are some really creative ideas out there that need to be implemented. A draw-back to teaching is the VAST pay cut required and sometimes additional educational requirements (PhD) to teach. From what I can tell an ADN nurse can make more $$$ than a PhD Nursing Instructor.

I also think that nursing school needs to be re-invented. I was not overly impressed with school. I have heard the stories of many programs forcing students out, which just reduces the final output of nurses. In business, there is an addage that says "It is easier to keep a customer than get a new customer." If you (the school) has gone through the trouble of selecting these highly qualified people why not keep them and work with them instead of putting them to the streets?

I would say the majority of the instructors I had were not great instructors. We had a handful that really wanted to teach and they were great. But, admin would put the screws to new ideas and methods ("lets just keep doing things the way we used too"). Once they have a warm body in front of the class it is like a Supreme Court nomination.

As posted earlier, there are other problems in nursing. There needs to be an overall national plan to address this. Staffing issues can start to be addressed with more boots on the ground. But we can't get more boots because of the lack of instructors that NEED to come from the existing nurses which creates further shortages. It's a Catch-22 but not nearly as amusing. There should be nursing programs that allow folks who want to change careers but can't afford to quit work to attend part time and/or at night.

I just realized I jumped up on the ol' box and could write for a while on this. I'll conclude with that just by throwing some money at poorly planned and implemented programs aren't going to "create" more nurses and Arnold and CA aren't going to do it by themselves.

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I just graduated in May 2005. What a long strage trip it's been. This was a career change for me. Came from the corporate world with 20 years experience. I did a paper in school on the nurse instructor shortage. This is where a main bottleneck is to get NEW nurses out there. There are about 5000 QUALIFIED applicants turned away each year. There are some really creative ideas out there that need to be implemented. A draw-back to teaching is the VAST pay cut required and sometimes additional educational requirements (PhD) to teach. From what I can tell an ADN nurse can make more $$$ than a PhD Nursing Instructor.

I also think that nursing school needs to be re-invented. I was not overly impressed with school. I have heard the stories of many programs forcing students out, which just reduces the final output of nurses. In business, there is an addage that says "It is easier to keep a customer than get a new customer." If you (the school) has gone through the trouble of selecting these highly qualified people why not keep them and work with them instead of putting them to the streets?

I would say the majority of the instructors I had were not great instructors. We had a handful that really wanted to teach and they were great. But, admin would put the screws to new ideas and methods ("lets just keep doing things the way we used too"). Once they have a warm body in front of the class it is like a Supreme Court nomination.

As posted earlier, there are other problems in nursing. There needs to be an overall national plan to address this. Staffing issues can start to be addressed with more boots on the ground. But we can't get more boots because of the lack of instructors that NEED to come from the existing nurses which creates further shortages. It's a Catch-22 but not nearly as amusing. There should be nursing programs that allow folks who want to change careers but can't afford to quit work to attend part time and/or at night.

I just realized I jumped up on the ol' box and could write for a while on this. I'll conclude with that just by throwing some money at poorly planned and implemented programs aren't going to "create" more nurses and Arnold and CA aren't going to do it by themselves.

Excellent Post!! You definately hit the nail on the head! I also just graduated from a RN program, and of course I cannot speak for everybody, but I thought it was two years of BS. I am also sitting here questioning whether or not I really learned or retained from the program what I need to know.

I can give a reason for there not being enough instructors, besides the inequality in pay. Many nurses I know, myself included, have bad memories of our instructors. I have often asked myself why anyone would want to be one. I don't mean to generalize, but the clinical instructors I had seemed to be overly interested with wanting to "weed out" and fail students - and I saw it happen, for very unfair reasons. They really didn't seem to want to teach anything. I did not come away from my medsurg clinicals with very good experiences - basically b/c of the instructors I had. I probably would have dropped out if it wasn't for the RN's that I know encouraging me and telling me they didn't like clinicals either but they don't matter much anyway, as long as you get a passing grade. what matters is that you can get through the program and pass the nclex.

Again, not to generalize and maybe I just had bad luck. I did have some good instructors to, but I am all for the structure of nsg school being revamped.

Another problem w/ nsg school that needs to be addressed is the high attrition rates. I believe my class lost 30% of it's students from start to finish. recently, I met a RN who just moved here from Cali and he said that his program lost over 60%! He said it was like the tv show Survivor - someone was dropped every week. What is up with that?

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I think it was a language issue. Nevertheless I think this is a campaign tactic and for Arnold acting was a better career choice than politics.

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Ditto. :)

Don't care for the man at all, but I do give him the benefit of the doubt on this one. Language issues.. even if pre written, he's not the kind to stick to a written speech.

As far as running again.. he's done too much "running off at the mouth"...don't think he'll get too far this time around. :chuckle

:imbar :imbar :imbar :o :o

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Exactly. Only, there's no problem attracting people to nursing, is keeping them in nursing once they find out what it's REALLY like.

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nuff said!!

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