Arnold Schwartzneiger says "We need to create more nurses"

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What are we objects? When he announced last night that he would be running for Governor again he said he was running again because "we need to create more ER Rooms, more hospitals, more nurses". I am all for more hospitals but you dont CREATE nurses. We are people!!!! It would also help to have more Nursing School Programs dont you think? There's a reason why there is a Nurse shortage and I think that a big part of it has to do with the fact that half of the people that want to become nurses are on a waiting list somewhere.

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Ah, from Texas....figures.

Joking, guys! :D

Hey now! Texas and California are the only 2 states that used to be Republics in their own right.

~faith,

Timothy.

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I'm sure there are lots of farmers and loggers in California. I know there are lots of farmers and loggers in the southern and midwestern areas of these United States. They do not all share your political beliefs.

I saw your post earlier in the thread essentially saying how it would be better for California to be divided into North and South, because "our needs are different". I have to say that is pretty silly. Using that logic, you should just move to an area where farmers and loggers are the majority, I guess.

And no I am not from California. In fact I live in Louisiana, and I *gasp* don't like particularly like Mardi Gras, seafood, or driving behind log trucks. An enigma, I tell you.....

There are plenty of people in Northern California who oppose logging and were against succession. Don't forget that San Francisco is the most populated city in that part of the state, and as a group, their sympathies run decidely more towards the anti-logging constituency.

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Well what doesnt make to much since to me with such a shortage of nurses Why don't they try to provide more help with funds. I have been working for 6 years in LTC cna and cmt work and would LOVE to be a nurse and believe that i could be a very good one but unfourtuntley i keep having to put it off due to financial reasons so AGAIN Why not try to provide more help,more scholorships??? btw im not from california

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1. Nursing shortage...get rid of the waiting lists by hiring more educators and better utilization of the work force that is currently present...agreed.

2. Arnie....well, now he wants "to create" more "special interest groups"...oops, was that my tongue in cheek or Arnie's back peddle shuffle to get re-elected? Hmmm.

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Hey now! Texas and California are the only 2 states that used to be Republics in their own right.

~faith,

Timothy.

hee! the area highlighted is key! :)

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I'm sure there are lots of farmers and loggers in California. I know there are lots of farmers and loggers in the southern and midwestern areas of these United States. They do not all share your political beliefs.

I saw your post earlier in the thread essentially saying how it would be better for California to be divided into North and South, because "our needs are different". I have to say that is pretty silly. Using that logic, you should just move to an area where farmers and loggers are the majority, I guess.

And no I am not from California. In fact I live in Louisiana, and I *gasp* don't like particularly like Mardi Gras, seafood, or driving behind log trucks. An enigma, I tell you.....

The remark to split the state was tongue-in-cheek. It would never work. I mentioned it only to emphasize the disconnect between LA, SF and the rest of the state.

And I do live in an area where farmers and loggers are the majority - which is why Bush won in our county:)

I'm not talking about things like Mardi Gras or seafood. I'm talking about laws that hurt our local industries or have nothing to do with the area of CA I live in.

Our little rural hospital is being forced to build a brand new earthquake proof building by 2010. We do not live in an earthquake zone as intense as the problems SF and LA have. All hospitals in CA have to be retrofitted or rebuilt. Now how is a small rural farming/logging community supposed to do that? That is just a small example of one-size-fits-all not being smart. Another is the law protecting mountain lions. Well, now they proliferate and the deer population is down and the increase in attacks against humans is up.

I don't like driving behind logging trucks either - but my husband drives one and he actually see more folks doing stupid things on the road in cars than he sees logging trucks doing something stupid. And most truck drivers will pull over and let you pass when it is safe, so if you just stay patient, you will be fine.

steph

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There are plenty of people in Northern California who oppose logging and were against succession. Don't forget that San Francisco is the most populated city in that part of the state, and as a group, their sympathies run decidely more towards the anti-logging constituency.

San Francisco in NOT Northern California . . . .at least to those of us north of Sacramento. Heck, sometimes we don't consider Sac part of us either. :)

The large cities on the coasts with the high population centers vote different that the rural areas . . ..it doesn't make one better than the other. I'm just saying that the needs of each are different. And that can get frustrating when it impacts on our local economy - it impacts the local school, the local grocery store, the local car lot, the local gym, the local art gallery, the local hardware store, and on and on. Someone in "the big city" decides that logging is a horrible thing and puts thousands of folks out of work. That trickles down to lots of places - you should see how much less $ our little local rural school gets vs. what we had in the 1980's. It is (whoops - was about to say sad:) :coollook: . . . . . . . .hmmmm, it is appalling.

steph

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The remark to split the state was tongue-in-cheek. It would never work. I mentioned it only to emphasize the disconnect between LA, SF and the rest of the state.

And I do live in an area where farmers and loggers are the majority - which is why Bush won in our county:)

I'm not talking about things like Mardi Gras or seafood. I'm talking about laws that hurt our local industries or have nothing to do with the area of CA I live in.

Our little rural hospital is being forced to build a brand new earthquake proof building by 2010. We do not live in an earthquake zone as intense as the problems SF and LA have. All hospitals in CA have to be retrofitted or rebuilt. Now how is a small rural farming/logging community supposed to do that? That is just a small example of one-size-fits-all not being smart. Another is the law protecting mountain lions. Well, now they proliferate and the deer population is down and the increase in attacks against humans is up.

I don't like driving behind logging trucks either - but my husband drives one and he actually see more folks doing stupid things on the road in cars than he sees logging trucks doing something stupid. And most truck drivers will pull over and let you pass when it is safe, so if you just stay patient, you will be fine.

steph

I think the fact that your hospital is required to build an essentially earthquake resistant building is a good thing. It's proactive. Unlike the reactive mess that is going on in New Orleans and greater southern Louisiana, the Mississippi Gulf Coast, and Alabama. I don't see that requirement as a vice at all.

Seeing that California (like all states) has a variety of people with a variety of needs that must be addressed there will always be times when laws are developed that don't apply to your individual situation.

And loggers in Louisiana and Mississippi do not pull over in my experience.

In the midwest and in some southern states we have the opposite problem. In fact I believe it was Wisconsin where there was a proliferation of feral cats and deer in which laws were in the process of being passed in which people could kill them out of season (but in the case of the cats of course there was no season).

It is really hurting our local industry when politicians don't think New Orleans should be rebuilt: our city's population has exploded and our interstates and local roads are a nightmare to navigate, for example. We have food shortages in local stores on a regular basis because the stores stock for a Baton Rouge population, not Baton Rouge+ 1/3 of N.O. Our city was not prepared to take on 300,000+ additional people overnight, but it has. In a way I want laws passed to build N.O. back as soon as possible so we can have breathing room again, but then I also want it rebuilt correctly to prevent such a mass exodus being necessary in the future. Not to mention the fact that Mardi Gras and seafood production bring alot of money into Louisiana.....in my opinion without N.O. and the Louisiana coastal region, Louisiana would be in the same pathetic state as Mississippi. Again, I believe Mardi Gras is overrated and seafood is nasty. Another silly law here (silly to me anyway, not the majority of the city's Catholic citizens that I've talked to) is you can't buy alcohol on Sundays in this parish. These situations are not directly helping me. Likewise they are not directly hurting me either, so I live with it for now. However, ultimately I don't think I'll be living in Louisiana the duration of my lifetime.

No one likes the greatest good for the greatest number philosophy, but we all live it everyday. Sometimes we're in the desired position, sometimes we're not.

*steps off soapbox*

eta: Just bringing up my individual issues with the state and local situations here because I can relate to some of what you're saying, I guess I just perceive what's occurring in a different way.

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I think that this thread has struck a nerve with some folks. It seems that, in their humble opinions, that Californians are the only ones allowed to say what they want, yet Californians (especially Hollywood's elite) are constantly telling the rest of us what we want...........mmmmmmmmm.........sounds like another left-winged double standard :rotfl:

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I think that this thread has struck a nerve with some folks. It seems that, in their humble opinions, that Californians are the only ones allowed to say what they want, yet Californians (especially Hollywood's elite) are constantly telling the rest of us what we want...........mmmmmmmmm.........sounds like another left-winged double standard :rotfl:

As a Californian, I would love for you to show me any post in which I suggested that posting of opinions should be a privilege granted according to geography, but since I've never said any such thng, I already know you wouldn't be able to do so. And I doubt anyone else from California has made such a statement, either.

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My ex MIL bought a house in AZ for 56,000, new, in 1992 and sold it in 1999 for 114,000.

That increase was due to the tripling in size of that city by exoding Californians.

~faith,

Timothy.

A house for 115,00! I'm movin' to Arizona. Ok kidding, but housing in CA is ridiculous! Me and my husband have considered both AZ and CO, because unless we save for years or are willing to live in trailer, bwe might never be home owners. The price of houses in So CAl is awful! AZ and Co have similar pay rates for nurses as CA but house are half the price (I owuld make only 5,00 a year less). This is one reason for the exodus you see. But in CA isee tons of people coming here. Not sure where thier coming frm but every year the traffic gets worse. So your not the only one experiencing this.

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I think that this thread has struck a nerve with some folks. It seems that, in their humble opinions, that Californians are the only ones allowed to say what they want, yet Californians (especially Hollywood's elite) are constantly telling the rest of us what we want...........mmmmmmmmm.........sounds like another left-winged double standard

mmmmmmmm...... sounds like another stereotypical generalization :rolleyes:

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