Any confirmation on this doozy?

[BuckyBadgerRN]

So I read this on fb today. Someone is claiming on a post for Kaplan that states are going to start refusing to re license nurses unless they have a bsn.

Well as a 2 yr prepared RN and then did choose to go back for my BSN/MSN, your fears are understandable as I had the same. States are moving towards requiring RNs to obtain higher degrees in order to renew licensure. NY will not license someone without a 4 year degree and CA and TX are moving in that direction. Unless you have a previous 4 yr degree in another area, you should be able to get financial aid without many loans and most programs are online so little time away from work. I learned so much more in studying for my BSN that I was not exposed to in my ADN program. Yes my employer even gave me a promotion and large raise once I finished.

[OCNRN63, RN]

The OP works for Kaplan.

Where'd you find that out?

[Farawyn]

I'm assuming NGT was kidding when he said that, but ya know, dat "ass" in "assume", doe.

[kbrn2002, ADN, RN]

Yippee for internet rumors! Seriously though, I have no doubt that this one is just that, a rumor. To my knowledge the only state that has tried to require a BSN minimum for license was North Dakota, and that was repealed quickly as it was a massive failure. I doubt if there is a state in the US that would consider the loss of income from all those ADN programs that would have to either close or transition somehow to a BSN program acceptable.

[BuckyBadgerRN, ASN, RN]

He pulled that "fact" out of his assume...

Where'd you find that out?

[truthteller]

I hear this garbage all the time. Here in Nevada, Truckee Meadows Community College is building a new health science center for 10 mil. Do you think the State and the college would spend that kind of money for a worthless degree for students paying to go there? NOT! And what can a BSN really do better? They can argue over which theory of nursing would provide the best care while the ADN is actually making a difference in the patients' life. Deal with it.

[That Guy, BSN, RN, EMT-B]

Oh man I need to recert this year. Thanks for the reminder

[Mavrick, BSN, RN]

Don't states already require an applicant to have graduated from an accredited school of nursing? Some states require a certain number of CEUs, obtained at your own expense, to renew your license making this an addition requirement of already licensed and practicing nurses.

When it's economically feasible, what would stop them from requiring a BSN degree?

[nynursey_]

I believe in order for a state to refuse to renew a nursing license due to educational requirements, it would need to change its licensure requirements via the BON.

[Purple_roses]

So Kaplan is basically trying to convince everyone that certain states say, "Congrats on passing NCLEX, you're a nurse!" And then a year later say, "oops, just kidding!" Nope.

[amoLucia]

It's EMPLOYERS who are requiring the BSN.

For licenses, individual States would have to change their LAWS that govern issuances of licenses. And at that point, I believe their own appointed Boards of Nursing would probably offer mucho resistance.

I graduated RN in 1974. Back then, it was called the 1985 Proposal that was to mandate BSN as our entry level with the 'grandfathering' of Associate & diploma nurses. As I remember, I think we all would become licensed as 'professional' nurses and LPNs would become 'technical' nurses. PNs and TNs, respectively.

Now I'm trying to figure who it is that's trying to put the screws to Nursing. I don't believe the BSN move is coming from the nursing profession. I believe it's coming in the 'back door' from the healthcare industry, specifically the hospital industry thru the 'Magnet' designation via JCAHO.

Way back, it used to be the 'high & mighty' medical profession that opposed anything that promoted nursing advancement educationally and/or expanding our scope of practice. I have a feeling it's the hospital industry (and some others) trying to keep the number of RNs down by 'requiring' BSNs. Only it is being 'bit in the butt' BIG TIME by the unexpected proliferation of on-line and other non-traditional approaches to education. A whole new can of worms!

Who drives 'Magnet"? JCAHO? Who governs JCAHO boards? It used to be that physicians were always the predominant top bigwigs (see my previous paragraph). Now I think it's the bean-counting MBAs/MHAs who are CEOs/CFOs/COOs. And I think the insurance industry may be in tandem on this move too. Who runs insurance? Bean-counters too??? They count out the beans to fill their plates, NO trickle-down there.

I dunno - I grew up in the '60's'. Conspiracies everywhere. Makes more fiscal sense to bean-counters to put more UAPs worker bees (cheaper compensation with less education and less political clout) than RNs (and LPNs)lkgdwith professional expectations (for patient care and their own occupational recognition) to do more with less. And all the while bean-counters are also tightening $$ constraints on physicians' practice reimbursement by close scrutiny for provision of approved medical procedures. We know that has not bode well for consumers' insurance premiums and approved services provision. Don't even begin to think about healthcare providers' malpractice insurance premiums. But what frightens me is to figure out where the federal govt is in all this mess - they provide funding somewhere thru 'cai=d & 'care.

Strange bedfellows - healthcare and insurance industries. Oh well - enough of my paranoia. Didn't mean to hijack the thread.

[TheNGTKingRN]

Um, if you're referring to me, you have never been more wrong in your life. Way to assume however.

First of all, you need to learn how to take a joke.

[TriciaJ, RN]

My understanding was that Magnet status was conferred by ANA, not JCAHO. It seems to be a naked emperor, nonetheless.