Ad on Craiglist for ghostwriter for nursing student

ShelbyaStar · Dec 16, 2013

WOW! That is something else. I would send a link to the head of the nursing department. I suppose whether they get busted or not they will fail sooner than later, or at least have a hell of a time passing the NCLEX.

I'm good at writing papers but that's for my own classes that I've been attending. I don't care who you are, it would be really difficult to write a good paper for a class that you aren't in and haven't taken in a long time. This will backfire on this person.

Let's hope this person doesn't make it. This is the same person that will toss meds and mark them as given and lie on other things related to patient care.

nurseprnRN, BSN, RN · Dec 16, 2013

You're mistaking my point. I can't seem to explain myself well enough here.

You explain yourself as a new grad who hasn't taken NCLEX and worked in the field. But that's all. Bear in mind that your opinions n this will change when you have an opportunity to work with (and worry about) nurses who are dishonest, shortcutting, and intellectually lazy...which is what this is about.

Levitas, BSN, RN · Dec 16, 2013

You explain yourself as a new grad who hasn't taken NCLEX and worked in the field. But that's all. Bear in mind that your opinions n this will change when you have an opportunity to work with (and worry about) nurses who are dishonest, shortcutting, and intellectually lazy...which is what this is about.

So, my opinion isn't of any importance because I haven't worked in the field? How can you say what my opinions will change into, or not? I thought this was about someone trying to cheat with writing their papers? Not negligence in the field... yes, I know, apparently everyone except for me believes that cheating on papers now will 100% equal cutting corners in the field later.

Someone mentioned that I'm too compassionate, as if this person isn't worthy of such. Well, I'm sorry that I disagree with that, and you, and many others in this thread. You may not value my opinion, whether it's because you don't like what I'm saying, or if it really is due to my lack of field experience, but I'm still entitled to it.

I would liked to of helped this person, if I could. If I couldn't, then I would of done everything in my power to ensure that they do not continue down a path of destruction that could ultimately lead to risking the safety of their patients. If that means that I would have to report them, then so be it. But I would have at least given them a chance to come back from that destructive path... if I'm the only one, then I guess it is what it is. Whether or not that will change in the future, no mortal can say.

Trauma Columnist · Dec 16, 2013

Please don't take offense. Just simply advice that your opinion MIGHT change.

nurseprnRN, BSN, RN · Dec 16, 2013

It's not that I don't value your opinion. I value it for what it is, as I said. I do not share it. I have been a starry-eyed, passionate, opinionated new grad. You have not yet become a crusty old bat, at which point you may still be passionate and opinionated, but the starry-eyed thing will be a fond memory. :)

I merely suggest that it is quite likely that your opinions on this topic will evolve as your practice does; whether you choose to admit to that possibility or not is entirely up to you, of course.

Meanwhile, there's always my favorite Emerson quote: "Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted." ~Ralph Waldo Emerson

OCNRN63, RN · Dec 16, 2013

So, my opinion isn't of any importance because I haven't worked in the field? How can you say what my opinions will change into, or not? I thought this was about someone trying to cheat with writing their papers? Not negligence in the field... yes, I know, apparently everyone except for me believes that cheating on papers now will 100% equal cutting corners in the field later.
Someone mentioned that I'm too compassionate, as if this person isn't worthy of such. Well, I'm sorry that I disagree with that, and you, and many others in this thread. You may not value my opinion, whether it's because you don't like what I'm saying, or if it really is due to my lack of field experience, but I'm still entitled to it.
I would liked to of helped this person, if I could. If I couldn't, then I would of done everything in my power to ensure that they do not continue down a path of destruction that could ultimately lead to risking the safety of their patients. If that means that I would have to report them, then so be it. But I would have at least given them a chance to come back from that destructive path... if I'm the only one, then I guess it is what it is. Whether or not that will change in the future, no mortal can say.

It may not fit with your world view, but most state BONs have some sort of morals clause. I would say that academic dishonesty could be considered violating such clause. At the very least, it would violate the school's

standards.

If you don't do the work, you don't deserve the degree. I was working on a BSN completion program when several serious illnesses and surgeries sidelined my desire to get my BSN. Should I have cheated because I had things going on in my life?

People are trying to explain to you that your view of nursing may change when you have some real-world experience. If you are going to throw theology into the discussion, "rendering unto Caesar" would include obeying laws and being honest.

emde · Dec 16, 2013

People that cannot think by themselves, and they want to be nurses. Nursing is not for everybody! :yuck:

Levitas, BSN, RN · Dec 16, 2013

@GrnTea - I suppose I took what you were saying in offense because of the wording. I never said I would never change my opinion, I just won't know until that time comes. :) I hold no grudges.

@OCNRN - I never said I disagreed with the BON's standards that cheating is unacceptable. I never said that there was any justified reasoning for wanting to cheat either. I was suggesting that we could have helped the person, so that they wouldn't have to make justifications, or feel the need to cheat. At the very least, warn them of the repercussions that come from not completing their own work.

If, by chance, that was their first time attempting to cheat, and someone took the time to explain how things are to them, what if that could have changed their entire perspective. Maybe even causing them to never think of doing so ever again. Pushed them to work harder, and become an excellent, honest nurse. What if an attempt to reach out could have saved that person? Perhaps it's the starry-eyed fresh nurse in me, thinking that everyone deserves a chance (which some might argue that their chance was voided upon first making the AD).

And maybe I will change my perspective, and become more pessimistic towards human behaviors, and expectations. A day comes when I rely more on the statistics of previous happenings rather than believing that, if even for only this one time, someone can be more than a number on a chart of probability.

NutmeggeRN, BSN · Dec 16, 2013

I think when all is said and done, Karma will have a way of showing her face.....failed exam, poor evaluation on clinical, failed NCLEX etc...one can only hope.

APA is tedious but not rocket science. We all just gotta do what we gotta do. In my day (insert eye roll here) we had MANUAL typewriters...not word processers, no copy and paste, no internet etc.

Just good old library catalogue card systems to deal with. Yeesh I am feeling my age today!!! Went to my pld "College" bookstore this weekend, cant even buy a sweatshirt or decal anymore that says "#&*$(Q^ College"...sniff, sniff :grumpy:

chuckster, ADN, BSN, RN, EMT-B · Dec 16, 2013

Wow! I knew people cheated, but really??? I was just glancing over health care jobs and found this. Not really what I had in mind for a job. What is wrong with people?
Looking for Medical Student or LPN/RN Student
I'm a nursing student taking nursing courses online. Looking for a Medical Student or RN.
I need a creative writer skilled in research and composition and APA formatting needed to ghostwrite nursing school coursework. This is a regular gig. Each week, writer will be required to research and compose two APA-formatted discussion board answers of approximately 300 -400 words each, as well as four APA-sourced and formatted responses(150 words) to other peer postings. Occasionally, writer will be expected to complete additional written paper assignments 3 pages long. I do not need an editor. Only mature individuals need respond.
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I'm thinking I should respond to this - I graduated summa cum laude from my BSN program and wrote dozens of "A" papers, but have not had much luck in finding a meaningful nursing job. Ghostwriting may be my niche. I may even have the papers already written! Wonder what the remuneration is? Hope that whomever posted the ad is is in a nursing program that doesn't use a net-based plagiarism application . . .

SunshineDaisy, ASN, RN · Dec 16, 2013

And with all these programs available APA is nothing!

rubato, ASN, RN · Dec 16, 2013

All the debate about cheating aside, I fear for the sheer stupidity of this student. Who in their right mind would post an ad on Craigslist for cheating? Whether they end up cheating or not, they're too stupid to make it all the way through nursing school.

There, I said it!