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Wow! I knew people cheated, but really??? I was just glancing over health care jobs and found this. Not really what I had in mind for a job. What is wrong with people?

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I'm a nursing student taking nursing courses online. Looking for a Medical Student or RN.

I need a creative writer skilled in research and composition and APA formatting needed to ghostwrite nursing school coursework. This is a regular gig. Each week, writer will be required to research and compose two APA-formatted discussion board answers of approximately 300 -400 words each, as well as four APA-sourced and formatted responses(150 words) to other peer postings. Occasionally, writer will be expected to complete additional written paper assignments 3 pages long. I do not need an editor. Only mature individuals need respond.

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Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.

No State regulation, BON, hospital policy, or anyone will ever change my morals.

Hope your morals are up to par if a dilemma comes up and you had the ability to intervene and you are questioned by the State and BON and the allegation is Failure to Rescue or moral turpitude. :blink:

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Hope your morals are up to par if a dilemma comes up and you had the ability to intervene and you are questioned by the State and BON and the allegation is Failure to Rescue or moral turpitude. :blink:

You're mistaking my point. I can't seem to explain myself well enough here.

If I saw someone doing something on the floor that was unsafe for the patient, or anyone, I would 100% step in, and first talk to the person. If that proved unsuccessful, I would move on to steps needed ensure safety for everyone.

What we are talking about here is writing papers. If you believe that 100% of the time, someone cheating on papers will cheat in the field, then that makes more sense. However, if you're like me, and don't believe that 100% of the time cheating on papers will equate to cheating in the field, it's a little more difficult of a decision in a situation like this.

If I am mandated by the BON to report anyone that cheats on their papers, then I suppose I do what I must do. But that will not change how I feel, was all I was saying with that comment.

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When I said do not judge, I meant we do not know this person. We do not know what they're going through. I never said there was anything that makes cheating justifiable, but perhaps if we knew their situation, we might be less anxious to put them to the guillotine. Doesn't everyone deserve the benefit of the doubt?

Nope we don't know their situation and to be frank I don't care what their situation is. There's this growing trend that people throw this whole "you don't know my situation" bologna in as an excuse. We all have situations, if the situation you are in makes you forfeit your morals then maybe its time to change your situation. If you are to busy to put the work into school withdraw or take a leave.

Many people have had to do it and that's what makes having a degree stand out. It means you have sacrificed and worked through everything to EARN a degree. This boo hoo woe is me thing is ridiculous. How many times have we all heard the excuses?

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Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.
You're mistaking my point. I can't seem to explain myself well enough here. If I saw someone doing something on the floor that was unsafe for the patient or anyone, I would 100% step in, and first talk to the person. If that proved unsuccessful, I would move on to steps needed ensure safety for everyone. What we are talking about here is writing papers. If you believe that 100% of the time, someone cheating on papers will cheat in the field, then that makes more sense. However, if you're like me, and don't believe that 100% of the time cheating on papers will equate to cheating in the field, it's a little more difficult of a decision in a situation like this. If I am mandated by the BON to report anyone that cheats on their papers, then I suppose I do what I must do. But that will not change how I feel, was all I was saying with that comment.[/quote']

And what you are NOT understanding is of one's obligations in most state nursing practice acts....that's the issue; whether writing papers and plagiarizing and cheating, that is a reportable and issue eligible for license revocation.

We all have moral compasses; however, when you've been in this business; you MUST remain objective to the standards at hand; I've been licensed for 8 years, many posters more beyond my age (or even before I was an apple in my fathers eye lol) that are posting here as well as people who are in school...it's remaining objective to the standards put forth where one would reject cheating; they would seek out help or educate themselves or writing a better paper BEFORE ever thinking about cheating.

And what's this "vilifying"??? I don't hear vitriol in posts...maybe I'm deaf, but what I see is most people are willing to uphold the standards of nursing. A little cheekiness, at least on my part, but for the most part in serious a firm belief in upholding nursing standards.

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Specializes in Adult Internal Medicine.
If you believe that 100% of the time, someone cheating on papers will cheat in the field, then that makes more sense. However, if you're like me, and don't believe that 100% of the time cheating on papers will equate to cheating in the field, it's a little more difficult of a decision in a situation like this.

So what is an acceptable percentage?

For me, it's 0%. Cheating on a paper isn't a far-cry from falsifying clinical notes.

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I'm sorry, you're all right, I was in error.

I completely agree with all of you. This person should be thrown out of school, immediately. It is my greatest hope that their license is revoked, and that their career ends this very instant.

Moral of the story: Don't disagree with the majority.

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Specializes in Adult Internal Medicine.

Don't worry about standing up to the majority, that is part of the job sometimes. You are more than entitled to your own opinion, we just may try and change it ;)

I am arguing the minority side most times :)

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Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.
I'm sorry you're all right, I was in error. I completely agree with all of you. This person should be thrown out of school, immediately. It is my greatest hope that their license is revoked, and that their career ends this very instant. Moral of the story: Don't disagree with the majority.[/quote']

Ok, glad that you decided to step in line...:cheeky:

Seriously, feel free to disagree...life would be very dull if we all agreed. Just be prepared to stand to your position, especially in this case.

Boston gave some very sage advice...plus he knows all about that. ;)

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Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.
Nope we don't know their situation and to be frank I don't care what their situation is. There's this growing trend that people throw this whole "you don't know my situation" bologna in as an excuse. We all have situations if the situation you are in makes you forfeit your morals then maybe its time to change your situation. If you are to busy to put the work into school withdraw or take a leave. Many people have had to do it and that's what makes having a degree stand out. It means you have sacrificed and worked through everything to EARN a degree. This boo hoo woe is me thing is ridiculous. How many times have we all heard the excuses?[/quote']

To add...being a nurse means to uphold accountability; having an "excuse" to something that is done in error, stress, internal and external issues really don't fly...that's the nature of this business. That's not to say that being affected with those issues is to wallow, but to be cognizant in taking charge with those issues as best as somebody can, even if they have to withdraw...unfortunately the human condition is complex; some people feel the need to go the riskier and questionable route, not understanding or far gone to be prepared to accept the consequences.

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Specializes in Pain, critical care, administration, med.

If this person is so willing to be so deceitful then the chances of them being deceitful is greater in other areas. I do believe they will cut corners and potentially bring harm because they lack good moral character.

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A quick question: Did anyone here have a thought aside of reporting them, or hoping that they would get reported?

Did anyone think about contacting the person, and offering advice? Maybe explain to them the gravity of the situation they're putting themselves in, and perhaps finding out why they're cheating? Maybe, just maybe, this person is in need, and feels like they cannot get by without cheating. Wouldn't it be great if someone, instead of maliciously accusing them of being a horrible person, stepped in and offered to help them with their work, so that they wouldn't feel the need to cheat in the future.

Just a thought.

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A quick question: Did anyone here have a thought aside of reporting them or hoping that they would get reported? Did anyone think about contacting the person, and offering advice? Maybe explain to them the gravity of the situation they're putting themselves in, and perhaps finding out why they're cheating? Maybe, just maybe, this person is in need, and feels like they cannot get by without cheating. Wouldn't it be great if someone, instead of maliciously accusing them of being a horrible person, stepped in and offered to help them with their work, so that they wouldn't feel the need to cheat in the future. Just a thought.[/quote']

No, I hadn't thought of that, but since you did---did you contact them?

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