I wanted to address a few things after reading the responses I received from my first article: " I failed out of nursing school... Appealed and WON!! Some were comical, most of them were critical, many were rude, but a few were really sweet and I appreciate the kind words.
First Point I would like to address is the misspelling of "Baccalaureate" . I am not the best at spelling, and yes I am ADHD. I have always struggled and because of my learning disability I tend to be impulsive. I should have used spellcheck. Lesson learned. It was a mistake. I'm not perfect, never have been and don't ever care to be.
After reading the enormous amount of rude,funny, and downright hateful comment's regarding the ADN Vs. BSN comment. I want to SINCERELY apologize to those who thought I was being demeaning or downplaying the role of ADN nurses, LPNs etc. That was never my intention. After re-reading my post as well as the comments I received I now realize I probably should have chosen my words more wisely or maybe I shouldn't have mentioned that in my post in the first place. This issue was recently brought up in my Leadership & Nursing Management class, I actually spoke out and said that a new graduate BSN nurse would not be as equipped as the ADN nurse with a number of years experience. My professor quickly responded saying that I was wrong, which I found to be odd because I know for a fact that as a new grad (in a few months) I will not have the experience or confidence that a seasoned ADN nurse has. I respect all healthcare professionals and I certainly do not think I am better just because I had to take two extra classes in order to receive my BSN (I am sure this will be taken out of context & and will receive comments that are mean.. go ahead I have tough skin)
Third point I would like to address is: I found it really disheartening that some of the rude/hateful comments I received were from nurses both ADN & BSN, nursing professors etc. Nurses care for others, we ALL have or should have compassion. Last time I checked, When a person decides to become a nurse, they make the most important decision of their lives. They choose to dedicate themselves to the care of others. Some of the comments I read had no compassion, they lacked understanding, and these were written by nurses?!
Last point I would like to address and mention is that I may have failed but it wasn't because I didn't study or worked hard. I wasn't the only one who failed. 11 out of 30 SENIOR NURSING students failed this particular class. Students with 4.0 GPA's, and even one's who have never failed anything in their ENTIRE life. Nine students appealed and there were only TWO that were successful including myself. I am very fortunate to have won my appeal and know that I will BE ONE HELL OF A NURSE & hopefully one day Professor.
Everyone has a right to their opinion, and I understand that I may have offended many of the readers, however again that was not my intention. I apologize and I hope that I straightened out a few issues. ALSO I want to shout out to the HATERS.... THANK YOU!
Really?.... My apology is hollow?.... Shaking my head. NOTICE: I will only respond to POSITIVE COMMENTS... so if you have something ridiculous to post... keep moving! HATERS GONNA HATE HATE HATE... AND I'M JUST GONNA SHAKE SHAKE SHAKE SHAKE IT OFF!!! But for real on a real note how much was that last outrageous commenter paid by MAVERICK to retaliate?!
To the OP: This is the internet. When you post something on the internet, you must be aware that people can and will respond both positively and negatively.
I told you in the original forum that I urge you to assess how you are coming off to others. Once again, I must urge you to do the same thing. The overall tone of what you are writing is not apologetic, even if you are trying to apologize. In the first few lines of your original post you state that you are not perfect and then go on to state that you "don't care to be." This sets up tone....an unapologetic tone.
Again, I do not believe that you have bad intentions. I do believe that you are trying to apologize and that you did not mean to offend people. However, once again, you are. And you are offending a lot of people...not a small number of people, suggesting that you are the one at fault. Again- think about how you are coming off to people. It will serve you well in your nursing career.
I truly wish you nothing but the best, OP. I really like that Taylor Swift song also....but I think you need to evaluate how you are coming off to other people and learn what works and what doesn't in getting your point across. What you are doing is clearly not working.
Second to blame your failures on your learning disabilities? That's crap. This is college. Put your big girl panties on and get help. You had already failed a course, and should of known how get help. I say this from the perspective of someone with a LD that never failed a course and sat down with my teachers often outside of class to get help. In the real world of nursing getting help early and often is key.
And third , ADN student can continue their education. They can even go directly into a MSN program.
An ADN nurse can also continue their education. This is the same issue you had in your first posting; you are trying entirely too hard to put BSN nurses on a pedestal where they can look down on all other nurses. I have no interest in getting my BSN because I already have a baccalaureate degree in another field. When I am done with my pitiful AAS program:sarcastic: I will be starting an MSN program.
It's pointless though for anyone to try to reason with someone who doesn't understand the implications of having failed more than one class and resorts to quoting a teeny bopper to get a point across.
I can see what you are talking about... I care about how I am coming across but then again I am clearly saying exactly what I mean. And if people take that out of context or in the wrong manner then that is on them not me. The Taylor Swift song is just a little reminder that people will think and say what they want. Everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion, and you are RIGHT "This is the internet. When you post something on the internet, you must be aware that people can and will respond both positively and negatively". I am tickled that people care this much to respond or even read what I have to say... at the end of the day I am still going to be successful! Thank you for your advice and wish you nothing but the best as well!
Your picture, initials, graduation month and year, city and state are on both the article and this thread.
It is unwise to tell the world about your disability. Every employer screens their employment candidates social media. Most HR departments have bots that scan the internet. Both the article which has your picture and this thread will really hurt your chances of employment in Memphis and even end your career before you even graduate. Both are more than enough for a potential employer to pass you over.
Please contact the admin desk and ask to have them both removed. Also change your user name. It's not worth it.
It is unwise to tell the world about your disability.
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Please contact the admin desk and ask to have them both removed. Also change your user name. It's not worth it.
Dear OP,
The above quote is GOOD ADVICE. It will serve you well to play your cards closer to the chest.
Beyond that, good for you for having the nerve to appeal. Everyone faces adversity...the ones who succeed are those that get up and push back sometimes. It's worth noting that not everyone who fails out tries to appeal. If I were the head of a nursing department, I would notice that you even TRIED to appear and that would tell me that the program meant enough to you to go out on a limb and not just give up. So good job.
I hope you reach all your goals in nursing and are very proud of the career that you are going to build.
The above quote is GOOD ADVICE. It will serve you well to play your cards closer to the chest.
Beyond that, good for you for having the nerve to appeal. Everyone faces adversity...the ones who succeed are those that get up and push back sometimes. It's worth noting that not everyone who fails out tries to appeal. If I were the head of a nursing department, I would notice that you even TRIED to appear and that would tell me that the program meant enough to you to go out on a limb and not just give up. So good job.
I hope you reach all your goals in nursing and are very proud of the career that you are going to build.
To Janey496-
Your kind words mean the world to me, more than you know! Originally this post wasn't supposed to be offensive in the first place, not even a little bit . I didn't even anticipate having to retaliate or defend myself... but that's what you get when you post an opinion on the internet. I got my own personal dose of what it feels like to be famous... and what it feels like to be criticized for being who you are. I actually saw the professor whose course I failed and appealed the other day... she said she was proud of me and that I held myself professionally.... I know I mean well and I know other's will always say and think what they want to. I AM WHO I AM AND I AM PROUD OF WHO I AM TODAY!!!! Thank you again! I am blessed and will continue to grow into the nurse I am MEANT TO BE!!
I was shocked by the amount of downright meaness of most of the comments to your first post. It seemed like a lot of people felt that you were threatening them, and they failed to use their own critical thinking to read between lines and understand that 1) you mentioned you have ADHD and 2) you are a student. Put those together and have some compassion for the excitment of the post,and the spelling mistakes and obvious quoting instrutor is easily understood. I also wanted to say congratulations for your win! For those who had nothing but negative things to say about your success, I truly believe they have a superiority complex.
BOOM, and there it is. I've been waiting for you to pull out this tired old phrase, OP, from the moment your original post took on a life of its own (except you never came back to that thread). My sincere thanks, you did not disappoint!!
Maverick-
I wasn't going to respond but what really did me in was your over all ignorant and demeaning tone. I will not give a humble apology for the statement of "I was meant for greatness" because I believe in working hard, persevering, and standing up for what I believe. I agree with Heathermaizy when she said she is personally tired of this whole BSN Vs. ADN thing. It doesn't matter whether you are a BSN or ADN nurse it is the SAME JOB, only difference is that a BSN nurse can continue their education and obtain a masters degree. If you read my response earlier then you would have read that I mentioned if my nursing school appeal was not successful then I would have still pursued nursing at an ADN program.
Also, the " I don't care to be perfect" comment was referring to a minor spelling error. Not a MED ERROR, I know as a nurse I will make mistakes because EVERY NURSE HAS OR WILL MAKE A MISTAKE. And if they say they haven't they are LYING. I strive to be the best I can be and I pray that I never make an error that causes significant harm or worse death to a patient. They say that "Nurses prey on and eat their young", after your rude and negative comments, I'd say that's the truth. One day when I'm a nurse with 34 years of experience and 21 years in a speciality, I will use my wisdom and knowledge to guide young nurses, new grads, etc. to the best of my ability. NOT TEAR THEM DOWN
Thank you for being understanding! You are very kind! I never in my life have seen anything like this... I think you are right about the superiority complex! At the end of the day I'm still going to be a successful nurse. Can't please everyone! MY MOTTO: BE GOOD..DO GOOD! End of story!
After re-reading my post as well as the comments I received I now realize I probably should have chosen my words more wisely or maybe I shouldn't have mentioned that in my post in the first place. This issue was recently brought up in my Leadership & Nursing Management class, I actually spoke out and said that a new graduate BSN nurse would not be as equipped as the ADN nurse with a number of years experience. My professor quickly responded saying that I was wrong, which I found to be odd because I know for a fact that as a new grad (in a few months) I will not have the experience or confidence that a seasoned ADN nurse has.
I just wanted to point out here that you were right, and your instructor was not. I'm days away from finishing my BSN, and while we did have a research class, an AWESOME geriatric nursing class (geared toward LTC and community-based care of elders), a public health practicum, and a leadership class...basically the extra classwork was theory-focused.
I and many other ADN RNs have been working ICU nurses for YEARS. How on earth do we keep critically ill/injured people alive AND keep residents in line, if our training didn't stress critical thinking? Often times, critical care requires minute-by-minute critical thinking. In fact, in my first ICU interview, the manager stressed that this position "requires independent critical thinking. Sometimes we have to protect our patients from these residents." Nothing in my BSN program--save maybe the research class and parts of the geriatric class, e.g. polypharmacy in elders, inadequate pain control and interrupted sleep can cause delirium, etc.--enhanced my ICU-nurse role. It's not like in Australia where the CCRN-type knowledge is taught in a master's program.
A new RN is green, whether she/he is ADN-, BSN-, or entry-level MSN-prepared. If you haven't heard of ELMSN, basically it's BSN and MSN work in a four-year program (give or take; my current school's program is 7 semesters), for students who already have a BS/BA degree in another discipline. So despite receiving a master's degree in nursing, they are as new to the profession as any other new grad.
In my situation (yes this is anecdotal, but I'm sure not unique), my first job was on a very high-acuity floor at a university hospital; I worked with a couple of LPNs who had been nurses for 30+ years. I can't tell you how much they taught me in the trenches that are the floor.
I too am sick of the degree wars, but just wanted to point this out. Wishing you the best!
ToBeBornANurseJB
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Really?.... My apology is hollow?.... Shaking my head. NOTICE: I will only respond to POSITIVE COMMENTS... so if you have something ridiculous to post... keep moving! HATERS GONNA HATE HATE HATE... AND I'M JUST GONNA SHAKE SHAKE SHAKE SHAKE IT OFF!!! But for real on a real note how much was that last outrageous commenter paid by MAVERICK to retaliate?!
GOD BLESS YOUR SOULS!!!