A Response from the OP on the issue (poor choice of words) on the concept of a ADN Vs. BSN

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Hi Readers,

I wanted to address a few things after reading the responses I received from my first article: " I failed out of nursing school... Appealed and WON!! Some were comical, most of them were critical, many were rude, but a few were really sweet and I appreciate the kind words.

  • First Point I would like to address is the misspelling of "Baccalaureate" . I am not the best at spelling, and yes I am ADHD. I have always struggled and because of my learning disability I tend to be impulsive. I should have used spellcheck. Lesson learned. It was a mistake. I'm not perfect, never have been and don't ever care to be.
  • After reading the enormous amount of rude,funny, and downright hateful comment's regarding the ADN Vs. BSN comment. I want to SINCERELY apologize to those who thought I was being demeaning or downplaying the role of ADN nurses, LPNs etc. That was never my intention. After re-reading my post as well as the comments I received I now realize I probably should have chosen my words more wisely or maybe I shouldn't have mentioned that in my post in the first place. This issue was recently brought up in my Leadership & Nursing Management class, I actually spoke out and said that a new graduate BSN nurse would not be as equipped as the ADN nurse with a number of years experience. My professor quickly responded saying that I was wrong, which I found to be odd because I know for a fact that as a new grad (in a few months) I will not have the experience or confidence that a seasoned ADN nurse has. I respect all healthcare professionals and I certainly do not think I am better just because I had to take two extra classes in order to receive my BSN (I am sure this will be taken out of context & and will receive comments that are mean.. go ahead I have tough skin)
  • Third point I would like to address is: I found it really disheartening that some of the rude/hateful comments I received were from nurses both ADN & BSN, nursing professors etc. Nurses care for others, we ALL have or should have compassion. Last time I checked, When a person decides to become a nurse, they make the most important decision of their lives. They choose to dedicate themselves to the care of others. Some of the comments I read had no compassion, they lacked understanding, and these were written by nurses?!
  • Last point I would like to address and mention is that I may have failed but it wasn't because I didn't study or worked hard. I wasn't the only one who failed. 11 out of 30 SENIOR NURSING students failed this particular class. Students with 4.0 GPA's, and even one's who have never failed anything in their ENTIRE life. Nine students appealed and there were only TWO that were successful including myself. I am very fortunate to have won my appeal and know that I will BE ONE HELL OF A NURSE & hopefully one day Professor.

Everyone has a right to their opinion, and I understand that I may have offended many of the readers, however again that was not my intention. I apologize and I hope that I straightened out a few issues. ALSO I want to shout out to the HATERS.... THANK YOU!

Sincerely,

JB The "OP" :)

To lorbla4-

Do you not think the custodial staff are important?

-JB

To lorbla4-

Do you not think the custodial staff are important?

-JB

I think the impression was that you're comparing ADN nurses to custodial staff. Not your intent, I'm sure. Chalk it up as another lesson on how intent and outcome are not always coincident in online communication. :)

I know that they are important but you feel that EVEN they are important. Even,since this is apparently something else that you do not know, is used to express something surprising or extreme within the context of comparison.

Why did you feel the need to say EVEN they are important? That JB, is like stating after someone has shared a piece of knowledge with you, "EVEN a child knows that".

Even JB, as you very well must know, reduces the subject to the lowest form possible. That's exactly what you meant though because custodians are not actually valuable,in your estimation, to the operation of a medical facility.

Lord have mercy people will twist your words and misconstrue anything & EVERYTHING. I have no idea how that statement could have come across that way. Comparing ADN nurses to custodial staff ? Really? This takes the cake for sure lol

-JB

To Lorbla4-

I don't know how or why you felt the need to pinpoint the word EVEN. Then somehow managed to twist that one four letter into your interpretation of what you say my estimation is of the custodial staff to the operation of a medical facility. Like I have some insidious reason to belittle the custodial staff. You are right it was used in a expressive manner, I used the word EVEN to make a point. SO EVEN though you assumed that I used the word EVEN to reduce the subject to the lowest form possible, you are WRONG. I'll EVEN forgive you.

-JB

Wow. Some people are really searching for things to pick apart to make them feel superior. Its so petty. Just move on.

To hisgirl86,

I know right? Thanks for being kind, its seldom I get nice comments lol!

-JB

Specializes in M/S, LTC, Corrections, PDN & drug rehab.
They did change the answers for everyone, and you are right there should have not been so many failures. Since then they have made changes and there have been no other failures. The only "sense of entitlement" I have is the diploma I will receive in a few months and the letters RN behind my name that I literally fought tooth and nail for. That is awesome that you never failed a class in your nursing education. I am thankful for my failures because they taught me many valuable lessons. I am much more appreciative of my education/career than I was before. I will forever be grateful for my struggles because without them I would not be the young woman I am today.

Best Wishes,

JB

No, your sense of entitlement came when you fought your second dismissal when you knew you were in the wrong. You failed once, that should've been it. I know when I fail it's my fault. But you failed twice & then tried to blame the school when you came back & fought the dismissal. There was your sense of entitlement. I don't know why kids these days think everything should be handed to them, nothing is their fault.

Clearly if something went that wrong & the professor/school messed up the number of students would have changed & the school would have done something about it. Obviously not.

You have to earn your degree, it's not handed to you. Did I fail tests? Of course but I never failed a class. But if I would have I wouldn't have fought it because it would've been my fault. I will never agree to this post because it goes against my morals. End of story.

You posted on a public forum, not everyone is going to agree with you.

Specializes in Mental Health Nursing.

OP, there are going to be many different opinions because this is the internet. Not everyone will see your point of view on things and not everyone will agree with you.

I am going to say something (and this is coming from a nurse who obtained his ADN, BSN, and then MSN). You believe whatever it is you want to believe. If you believe BSN nurses are better, then so be it - most hiring managers believe that. Anyone who is secure enough with their education and comfortable with themselves wouldn't feel immediately offended by someone else's opinion of the ADN vs BSN debate. Their reaction says more about them than it does about you, remember that.

As for appealing and winning. Congratulations. Not everyone has the courage to make an appeal. It does not make you lazy, it does not make you unfit to be a nurse, and it does not make you any less of a student than those who passed the first time. This is MY opinion. Others will have a different opinion, and that's okay. I will never say that other people's opinions don't matter; but how you see yourself will always be more important than how others see you. Eventually your coworkers will disagree with you, your patients will disagree with you, or your manager will disagree with you. You will need to bring that tough skin into your career and acknowledge that people are all different, thoughts and all.

No, your sense of entitlement came when you fought your second dismissal when you knew you were in the wrong. You failed once, that should've been it. I know when I fail it's my fault. But you failed twice & then tried to blame the school when you came back & fought the dismissal. There was your sense of entitlement. I don't know why kids these days think everything should be handed to them, nothing is their fault.

Clearly if something went that wrong & the professor/school messed up the number of students would have changed & the school would have done something about it. Obviously not.

You have to earn your degree, it's not handed to you. Did I fail tests? Of course but I never failed a class. But if I would have I wouldn't have fought it because it would've been my fault. I will never agree to this post because it goes against my morals. End of story.

You posted on a public forum, not everyone is going to agree with you.

So you're telling me that when 11 out of 30 students fail a class then that is because they ALL magically failed themselves? If you ACTUALLY read what I said, I mentioned that the school did make changes because they had to. There is no way to justify that many students failing a class, without admitting that were discrepancies. And I agree if I failed because I didn't put the effort in then yes, I would have taken full responsibility. I respect your opinion and commend you for standing by beliefs. But you can't ignore the facts and I can't reason with someone who obviously thinks they are superior because they never failed a nursing class. YOU GO GLEN COCO! END OF STORY. THINK WHAT YOU WANT... GO FIND ANOTHER POST TO TERRORIZE.

-Thank you,

JB

Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.
Lord have mercy people will twist your words and misconstrue anything & EVERYTHING. I have no idea how that statement could have come across that way. Comparing ADN nurses to custodial staff ? Really? This takes the cake for sure lol

-JB

What you have to realize is EVERY word you choose to write will be open to interpretation; whether you like it or not...that's the Internet for you.

Right now, less is more...accept the fact that you don't own the post anymore and you can't control how other think and how they interpret your words, and engaging every post is not always warranted; especially when whatever your posts seems to be less of a measures tone and instead of a more knee-jerk reaction, making you come off even MORE offensive when you don't want to be-your potential employers are out there, and every post you make may be used to determine whether you get that job or not.

And please change your avatar...again less is more.

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