A Response from the OP on the issue (poor choice of words) on the concept of a ADN Vs. BSN

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Hi Readers,

I wanted to address a few things after reading the responses I received from my first article: " I failed out of nursing school... Appealed and WON!! Some were comical, most of them were critical, many were rude, but a few were really sweet and I appreciate the kind words.

  • First Point I would like to address is the misspelling of "Baccalaureate" . I am not the best at spelling, and yes I am ADHD. I have always struggled and because of my learning disability I tend to be impulsive. I should have used spellcheck. Lesson learned. It was a mistake. I'm not perfect, never have been and don't ever care to be.
  • After reading the enormous amount of rude,funny, and downright hateful comment's regarding the ADN Vs. BSN comment. I want to SINCERELY apologize to those who thought I was being demeaning or downplaying the role of ADN nurses, LPNs etc. That was never my intention. After re-reading my post as well as the comments I received I now realize I probably should have chosen my words more wisely or maybe I shouldn't have mentioned that in my post in the first place. This issue was recently brought up in my Leadership & Nursing Management class, I actually spoke out and said that a new graduate BSN nurse would not be as equipped as the ADN nurse with a number of years experience. My professor quickly responded saying that I was wrong, which I found to be odd because I know for a fact that as a new grad (in a few months) I will not have the experience or confidence that a seasoned ADN nurse has. I respect all healthcare professionals and I certainly do not think I am better just because I had to take two extra classes in order to receive my BSN (I am sure this will be taken out of context & and will receive comments that are mean.. go ahead I have tough skin)
  • Third point I would like to address is: I found it really disheartening that some of the rude/hateful comments I received were from nurses both ADN & BSN, nursing professors etc. Nurses care for others, we ALL have or should have compassion. Last time I checked, When a person decides to become a nurse, they make the most important decision of their lives. They choose to dedicate themselves to the care of others. Some of the comments I read had no compassion, they lacked understanding, and these were written by nurses?!
  • Last point I would like to address and mention is that I may have failed but it wasn't because I didn't study or worked hard. I wasn't the only one who failed. 11 out of 30 SENIOR NURSING students failed this particular class. Students with 4.0 GPA's, and even one's who have never failed anything in their ENTIRE life. Nine students appealed and there were only TWO that were successful including myself. I am very fortunate to have won my appeal and know that I will BE ONE HELL OF A NURSE & hopefully one day Professor.

Everyone has a right to their opinion, and I understand that I may have offended many of the readers, however again that was not my intention. I apologize and I hope that I straightened out a few issues. ALSO I want to shout out to the HATERS.... THANK YOU!

Sincerely,

JB The "OP" :)

To blackbettyLPN,

They passed BARELY...

-JB

To LadyFree28,

Thank you for your kind words and advice! I can't believe people are interested enough to read both of my posts or even care to comment and the view count... unbelievable!!

- Best Wishes, JB :)

Specializes in Oncology/StemCell Transplant; Psychiatry.
To blackbettyLPN,

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They passed BARELY...

-JB

I don't really see what the meme has to do with your answer, but whatever. The majority of the class was able to meet the minimum standard to pass. What did they do differently than the 11 students who didn't pass?

Specializes in M/S, LTC, Corrections, PDN & drug rehab.
To blackbettyLPN,

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They passed BARELY...

-JB

This isn't helping your case.

Yes I didn't fail a nursing course & there's a difference between the people who do & don't fail nursing classes. There are rules in place in a reason. If & when you do pass the NCLEX you'll realize why.

ETA: you changed your avatar...that's a good step in the right direction. :yes:

Now I want to know what the OLD avatar was!

Specializes in M/S, LTC, Corrections, PDN & drug rehab.
Now I want to know what the OLD avatar was!

If you quote her you can still see it was a picture of her, or at least I can on my phone.

Specializes in nursing education.
To OrganizeChaos,

Okay I think it's time that we bury the hatchet, you have never failed a nursing class! That is tremendous!! However, I failed a class and for some reason you won't allow me to live that down.

Actually, OP, you are the one that started a second thread about it.

I don't really see what the meme has to do with your answer, but whatever. The majority of the class was able to meet the minimum standard to pass. What did they do differently than the 11 students who didn't pass?

The MEME was to lighten things up a bit. 19 out of 30 is BARELY a huge amount when 1/3 of the class is unsuccessful. That is unheard of...okay if a few students fail 1-2 then it was probably because they either didn't grasp the concepts that were taught or they didn't put enough effort into their studies. But when 11 out of 30 students fail...something doesn't add up. I wish I knew how they passed, I do know for a fact no one passed flying colors and that there wasn't a single A... Hmm? but we had students who've never made below an A in their life fail the class. What do you think?

-JB

Specializes in M/S, LTC, Corrections, PDN & drug rehab.
The MEME was to lighten things up a bit. 19 out of 30 is BARELY a huge amount when 1/3 of the class is unsuccessful. That is unheard of...okay if a few students fail 1-2 then it was probably because they either didn't grasp the concepts that were taught or they didn't put enough effort into their studies. But when 11 out of 30 students fail...something doesn't add up. I wish I knew how they passed, I do know for a fact no one passed flying colors and that there wasn't a single A... Hmm? but we had students who've never made below an A in their life fail the class. What do you think?

-JB

Well what do you think when multiple CAMPUSES failed that test? No one went to the dean to appeal. I mean we talked to our professor who was in charge (above the one who left) about how much it sucked but we were all adults about the situation & moved on from it. No one went to the dean & said we need to drop this grade, it's unfair. There were FOUR campuses affected! I know on our campus not many passed & no one made an A. But we moved on from it & studied harder for the next test.

My ex best friend actually made a B in nursing school. She is brilliant, super smart & that was her second bachelor's degree. It happens! Nursing school is hard!

Specializes in Oncology/StemCell Transplant; Psychiatry.
The MEME was to lighten things up a bit. 19 out of 30 is BARELY a huge amount when 1/3 of the class is unsuccessful. That is unheard of...okay if a few students fail 1-2 then it was probably because they either didn't grasp the concepts that were taught or they didn't put enough effort into their studies. But when 11 out of 30 students fail...something doesn't add up. I wish I knew how they passed, I do know for a fact no one passed flying colors and that there wasn't a single A... Hmm? but we had students who've never made below an A in their life fail the class. What do you think?

-JB

Sounds like my nursing program and almost every other one in my area. A bunch of formerly straight-A students barely passing each semester. No As, a few Bs, and mostly Cs, with many of those Cs barely making the cut. We lose some students every semester, We graduate in 9 days, and we have less half of out original class. What you are describing is far from "unheard of."

Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.
To LadyFree28,

Thank you for your kind words and advice! I can't believe people are interested enough to read both of my posts or even care to comment and the view count... unbelievable!!

- Best Wishes, JB :)

Because this is a forum where we discuss (most of) the posts that are posted by members; we are free to discuss and have lively debate, whether it is the worst smells that we have smelled to safe ratios and entry to practice and any and many controversial and important issues that happen as nurses.

To blackbettyLPN & OrganizedChaos,

I think we all can agree that nursing school is hard. Regardless of whether it's a ADN, BSN, or LPN program. Sounds like we all have struggled and instead of tearing each other down we should be building each other up. I wish you both nothing but the best! Oh before I forget-- OrganizedChaos, I hope you don't let your license expire. Best of luck!

Best Wishes, JB

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