A Response from the OP on the issue (poor choice of words) on the concept of a ADN Vs. BSN

Thank you! I was appalled at some of the comments but I wanted to clear the air because my "OP" was not intended to offend anyone. Also it wasn't written for an applause, it was written to let other's know that it is possible to win a nursing school appeal. When I was researching and preparing for my appeal meeting, I did not find one appeal that was successful. My intention was to hopefully inspire those who read it. But most importantly to give hope to nursing students who may be on the verge of failing, or one's who did fail to keep trying and NEVER EVER GIVE UP! If my appeal was not successful I would have been a nurse regardless, I was already making appointments at local community colleges to enroll in an ADN program. This is a story about perseverance.... it's my journey and I would not take it back.

Also to answer your question in the OP. Yes the exam questions I contested and points I gained back were given to all students who missed them.

Don't worry about what other people think. In my program, if you don't send in the dispute form yourself, you don't get the points. Someone else may have successfully disputed and won, but if you don't send in the clarification/rationale form yourself, you are SOL. And it should be that way. I myself have ever only disputed one question and I lost, no big deal. Plenty of others have disputed and won. If they took the time to look it up and I don't, then they should win the appeal, not me. Now if it is a huge error, like the professor just had the answer wrong and they realize it later, then they give it back to the whole class.

I'm personally tired of the whole ADN vs. BSN thing. It's a personal route for everyone. The way everyone chooses to get there is different. No one way is better than the other, as we all lead different lives and what is important to each one of us at the time is different. I'm happy with the way I am doing things. I'm getting my ADN, going to get a job, hopefully move to the bigger city with my man, then get my BSN. But I am at a different stage in my life than many people. I'm a 39 year old single mom. I have different goals than most.

So congrats, on winning your appeal. And honestly, don't sweat what the others think. :)

While the overall naivety and tone of your manifesto was off putting the "meant for greatness" line did me in. Any humble apology for that one?

No one will ever know if you "intended to offend" but you clearly did when you brought up the BSN better than thou argument. I have heard this insult since the 1980s so I am certain ADN nurses are more than fed up. I think your poking an old wound with a fresh young finger raised the hackles.

As far as perfection goes, of course no one is perfect but a flip attitude that "I don't ever care to be" won't be very comforting to a family who suffers because of your med error. And you WILL make a med error. The best nurses do care to be perfect in that area.

I have a favorite siggy line: "Don't come in with a chip; bring a bat, and use it when necessary."

AN has a loooong history of many threads, some issues are going to arise, no matter how you slice it.

Yes you are amongst not only nurses but nursing students, people who know nurses, patients, nursing instructors and future employers, as well as people who wish to play a nurse on TV.

Nurses are not only compassionate per se, we are direct and give "tough love"; we are empathetic and we get to the point in order to critically think in order to best intervene with our pts and our peers.

Also, it's the Internet; forums take a life of their own, and battling on the Internet-really? It's never that serious-really; also sometimes a self evaluation of reading into tone hearing your own voice of how you perceive vs what is really being said-makes a difference as well.

Apologize and move on; focus on the NCLEX; where there are not going to be challenges but only absolutes; and focus on being the best nurse by being the three C's: Consistent, Competent, and Confident- by being a sponge and learning from many sources, so you can eventually become a nursing professor and be able to pass on the best educational path for your future students.

Best wishes.

Thank you LadyFree28 for the advice and I liked your favorite line. I will have to remember that one!

While the overall naivety and tone of your manifesto was off putting the "meant for greatness" line did me in. Any humble apology for that one?

No one will ever know if you "intended to offend" but you clearly did when you brought up the BSN better than thou argument. I have heard this insult since the 1980s so I am certain ADN nurses are more than fed up. I think your poking an old wound with a fresh young finger raised the hackles.

As far as perfection goes, of course no one is perfect but a flip attitude that "I don't ever care to be" won't be very comforting to a family who suffers because of your med error. And you WILL make a med error. The best nurses do care to be perfect in that area.

Maverick-

I wasn't going to respond but what really did me in was your over all ignorant and demeaning tone. I will not give a humble apology for the statement of "I was meant for greatness" because I believe in working hard, persevering, and standing up for what I believe. I agree with Heathermaizy when she said she is personally tired of this whole BSN Vs. ADN thing. It doesn't matter whether you are a BSN or ADN nurse it is the SAME JOB, only difference is that a BSN nurse can continue their education and obtain a masters degree. If you read my response earlier then you would have read that I mentioned if my nursing school appeal was not successful then I would have still pursued nursing at an ADN program.

Also, the " I don't care to be perfect" comment was referring to a minor spelling error. Not a MED ERROR, I know as a nurse I will make mistakes because EVERY NURSE HAS OR WILL MAKE A MISTAKE. And if they say they haven't they are LYING. I strive to be the best I can be and I pray that I never make an error that causes significant harm or worse death to a patient. They say that "Nurses prey on and eat their young", after your rude and negative comments, I'd say that's the truth. One day when I'm a nurse with 34 years of experience and 21 years in a speciality, I will use my wisdom and knowledge to guide young nurses, new grads, etc. to the best of my ability. NOT TEAR THEM DOWN

Regards, JB

Thank You, Heathermaizey for your kind words! I agree with you completely and I wish you nothing but the best while you are finishing school. Good luck, I am positive you will have your BSN before you know it!!

-JB :)

No offense OP (and I honestly mean "no offense", not the tongue-in-cheek "no offense" that allows you to say whatever you want just because you start the sentence with "no offense"), but you are still coming off as just as impulsive and naive as you did in your first thread. I think you need to just let it go. By continuing to post about this, you are keeping it fresh on everyone's minds and opening yourself up for more "nasty comments."

Just my thoughts...

Really?.... My apology is hollow?.... Shaking my head. NOTICE: I will only respond to POSITIVE COMMENTS... so if you have something ridiculous to post... keep moving! HATERS GONNA HATE HATE HATE... AND I'M JUST GONNA SHAKE SHAKE SHAKE SHAKE IT OFF!!! But for real on a real note how much was that last outrageous commenter paid by MAVERICK to retaliate?!

GOD BLESS YOUR SOULS!!!