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nursej22 said:By being displayed by Bukele and US officials in that video made on their arrival, and then used for photo ops for DHS "Barbie" and other US officials. And by essentially being sold to Bukele.
Interesting perspective.
The US has long used those kind of tactics to dissuade other offenders.
I'm not sure what happens after cases are adjudicated/sentences completed. So, I'm not in a position to argue that they've been "sold".
I think I know how others feel, but not sure I know where you stand.
Do you believe illegal immigrants should be deported?
nursej22 said:Illegal immigrant is an inexact term, so I can't answer that.
Do you think convicted felons should serve time?
Inexact term? How about immigrants who are here illegally?
Convicted criminals should serve what they are sentenced to.
I don't really understand this little game, unless it's simply to deflect.
Persons that cross the border illegally should be deported. We have been doing it for decades. It shouldn't be controversial.
What should happen it that it is done in a humane and legal way. We've been doing that for decades now as well.
What is not okay in my opinion is paying another country to take our illegal immigrants and imprisoning them in a harsh manner, especially if they made a mistake in sending someone there. What's not okay is talk about deporting citizens or persons with legal status such as the Haitian migrants in Springfield.
But yes, persons crossing the border illegally should be sent back. Trump has been effective in slowing down the illegal crossings and can focus on finding and deporting persons found around the country. He's now targeting sanctuary cities.
This is a major accomplishment. However, his approval ratings are dropping in other areas important to people. He can ride on border success only so long. We'll see how his rally goes. He says he's running the country and running the world, and other leadings are kissing his ***. Approval ratings are 4 out of 10 people.
Beerman said:How are the illegal immigrants bring exploited?
Trump displayed video of detainees at SECOT having their heads shaved at his rally. Thus exploiting them.
https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lnydd6rhcm2d
nursej22 said:Trump displayed video of detainees at SECOT having their heads shaved at his rally. Thus exploiting them.
https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lnydd6rhcm2d
"Exploiting" would mean their heads were shaved to benefit someone.
Beerman said:"Exploiting" would mean their heads were shaved to benefit someone.
The shaving of the heads seems to be SOP for prisoners there so it's not the shaving of the heads.
Showing it benefits Trump in that he is seen as being harsh against the criminal element of illegal immigrants in the states thus garnering up support for his actions. It worked as the post on Bluesky said there were loud cheers and chants of "USA" during the showing. I'm not sure I myself would call it exploitation in a bad way necessarily, but in a way that promotes his agenda of dehumanizing illegal immigrants (criminals) and promoting his tough guy approach. A win for him with his base.
Two views of cutting Army waste in Washington while the Army celebrates its 250 birthday this year.
DelcoTimes/AP 5/1/2025
Hegseth orders Army to cut costs by merging some commands and slashing jobs
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U.S. officials said as many as 40 general officer slots could be cut as a result of the restructuring
The Army is planning a sweeping transformation that will merge or close headquarters, dump outdated vehicles and aircraft, slash as many as 1,000 headquarters staff in the Pentagon and shift personnel to units in the field, according to a new memo and U.S. officials familiar with the changes.
In a memo released Thursday, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth ordered the transformation to "build a leaner, more lethal force.” Discussions about the changes have been going on for weeks, including decisions to combine a number of Army commands.
Col. Dave Butler, an Army spokesman, said the potential savings over five years would be nearly $40 billion.....
Delco Times/AP 5/1/2025
Army plans for a potential parade on Trump's birthday call for 6,600 soldiers, AP learns
It would likely cost tens of millions of dollars to put on an event of that size
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Detailed Army plans for a potential military parade on President Donald Trump's birthday in June call for more than 6,600 soldiers, at least 150 vehicles, 50 helicopters, seven bands and possibly a couple thousand civilians, The Associated Press has learned.
The planning documents, obtained by the AP, are dated April 29 and 30 and have not been publicly released. They represent the Army's most recent blueprint for its long-planned 250th anniversary festival on the National Mall and the newly added element — a large military parade that Trump has long wanted but is still being discussed.
The Army anniversary just happens to coincide with Trump's 79th birthday on June 14.
While the slides do not include any price estimates, it would likely cost tens of millions of dollars to put on a parade of that size. Costs would include the movement of military vehicles, equipment, aircraft and troops from across the country to Washington and the need to feed and house thousands of service members.
High costs halted Trump's push for a parade in his first term, and the tanks and other heavy vehicles that are part of the Army's latest plans have raised concerns from city officials about damage to roads....
Much of the equipment would have to be brought in by train or flown in....
Some equipment and troops were already going to be included in the Army's birthday celebration, which has been in the works for more than a year. The festival was set to involve an array of activities and displays on the National Mall, including a fitness competition, climbing wall, armored vehicles, Humvees, helicopters and other equipment.
A parade, however, would increase the equipment and troops involved. According to the plans, as many as 6,300 of the service members would be marching in the parade, while the remainder would be responsible for other tasks and support.
The Army's early festival plans did not include a parade, but officials confirmed last month that the Army had started discussions about adding One.
The plans say the parade would showcase the Army's 250 years of service and foresee bringing in soldiers from at least 11 corps and divisions nationwide. Those could include a Stryker battalion with two companies of Stryker vehicles, a tank battalion and two companies of tanks, an infantry battalion with Bradley vehicles, Paladin artillery vehicles, Howitzers and infantry vehicles.
There would be seven Army bands and a parachute jump by the Golden Knights. And documents suggest that civilian participants would include historical vehicles and aircraft and two bands, along with people from veterans groups, military colleges and reenactor organizations.
According to the plan, the parade would be classified as a national special security event, and that request has been submitted by the National Park Service and is under review....
...D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser acknowledged in April that the administration reached out to the city about holding a parade on June 14 that would stretch from Arlington, Virginia, where the Pentagon and Arlington National Cemetery are located, across the Potomac River and into Washington.
Bowser at the time said she didn't know if the event was being "characterized as a military parade" but added that tanks rolling through the city's streets "would not be good.”
"If military tanks were used, they should be accompanied with many millions of dollars to repair the roads,” she said....
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ICE deported 3 children who are U.S. citizens, their families' lawyers say
Is this example of the fascist cruelty or is it evidence of the cruel incompetence of the racists?
It sounds like these were some of the dangerous illegal immigrant criminals that Trump promised to deport, right?