"Do we have to know this for the test?" - page 3

:trout: Oh my GAWD!!! I hate this questions from my classmates. The teachers could be all in really going with the lecture and one classmate always ask this STUPID question. I am sorry there goes... Read More

  1. by   jennifers
    I have to admist i've asked that question a time or two. I have had professors that want you to know every single detail. The would ask the weirdest questions. When I study I try to go over the major concepts...things I think the book wants me to learn. Not little details. If you dont know how the professor tests you have to ask sometimes. like when calculating the amount calories required to heat a sample do we need to know the specific heat or will that be given on the test. I have better things to do than memorize little details...things we would look up in normal life. KWIM? And it just makes me wonder if these are full time students taking 15 or so credit hours a class. They try to study and make the most of their study time and dont need to study things they dont need to know. I know cause i once took mirco, chem and a&p and soc all at one time!! lol it was crazy. I'm now going back to school part time...just dont judge the student as being lazy if they are just trying to be efficient. Also, i wouldnt say the same if someone was asking about nursing care being on a test...but when its some of the general classes i completly understand.
  2. by   stpauligirl
    Quote from Worthless_Nut
    Hi all, I have thoroughly enjoyed all the comments on this subject. It seems to me that it is the younger students who always ask this question. I have another experience to share along these same lines. I like to go to ratemyprofessor.com and see which instructors people liked and which ones they didn't like and why. I am constantly amazed at the number of poor ratings an instructor gets for simply expecting students to pay attention, take some notes, and put in a couple hours studying. I am so worried about whether I will be accepted into nursing school, then I look around me and smile. I have even had complainers tell me that I don't know what it is like since I am obviously a really smart person. This always causes me to laugh and explain that I am not naturally smart, I have to really study and apply myself. Maybe someday they will get the hint, but of course, if that's not going to be on a test............:roll
    You wonder what planet some of the students in my classes came from. There is this smart allek, snooty pre-med student in my class who tried to discredit my Organic/Biochem class.....I dont think she wants to be smart with me again after the results of the first lab and lecture test. Academic Darwinism is in the works at my school :wink2:
  3. by   scribblerpnp
    Quote from akspudus

    " Do you want to be a nurse? If the answer is yes....then yes you might want to know this for the exam"
    I SOOOOOOO am going to say that next time one of my students ask, "Is that going to be on the test?"

    And to the poster who stated (paraphrasing here). "I don't teach you for the exam, I teach to how to be a nurse."

    :yeahthat:

    It's nice to know there are students who are tired of hearing this too! As a teacher I feel your pain!
    Last edit by scribblerpnp on Oct 9, '06
  4. by   WDWpixieRN
    Quote from akspudus
    Then again...this is the competition for getting into nursing school?
    Yeah....and some of them will be your classmates....we had a test last week (kinda' tough) and some people mentioned asking the instructor if they showed them they had circled the right answer on the test booklet we worked on, but didn't transfer right to the answer sheet/scantron, can they could get credit!! C'MON....do they do that when you sit for the NCLEX?!?! The reasons all pointed out above by other posters are why we get treated like high school kids I'm afraid....

    And if that one girl in our class keeps holding up lecture asking, "But what would you do about this (fill in the blank)?!?!", I am going to scream!! Asking who handles calling PT or OT or dietary or whatever when we are only in our 8th week of the first semester is SUPER jumping the gun and not relevant to what we're learning right now....our brains are jam packed as it is....I'm pretty sure we'll figure that out as we go along....that's just ONE example; it goes on and on every day!!

    Also, those of you who keep giving us examples of YOUR clinical patient/child/aunt/long-lost alien cousin who's slightly similar situation/health history might give you 5 minutes of spotlight during of lecture -- STOP SHARING....we all have those...and your case is NOT more interesting than listening to lecture...lolol....do I sound like a cranky NS student?!?!

    Good luck!
  5. by   stpauligirl
    So...it won't get any better in nursing school, huh ?
    I am in A&P2....you just want to scratch your head...they all had to live and learn through A&P1, nobody may sign up for A&P2 unless they passed A&P1 with a C or higher and it is STILL the same. They STILL don't know how to study!!!!!! I am never present before a test and am in hiding somewhere in a quiet corner so that I won't be bombarded with last minute questions about the material. And may I add that those who ask you last minute questions right before the test don't know you any other time, they couldn't care less if you live or die the rest of the time.
    Last edit by stpauligirl on Oct 10, '06
  6. by   Freedom42
    Here's my slightly OT post, but still a strong contender for Unbelieveable Classmate:

    Last Monday, I'm waiting for an Intro to Nursing class to get started. There are two of us in the room. I greet the young woman and say, "Hey, great reading this week, huh?"

    "Oh, were we supposed to read something?" she replies. "What was it?"

    I outline the assignment, mentioning the chapters in a particular text book.

    "Oh," she says, rolling her eyes. "I didn't read any of it."

    It's clear that she has contempt for the class. End of conversation.

    A short time later, the class begins. At the beginning of each session, the instructor (who's done a darn good job of putting together an interesting, challenging intro-level class) asks that we "check in" with a comment about anything that we like. Often, people comment on the readings. You guessed it: Unbelieveable Classmate Contender says cheerfully, "Oh, I'll start."

    "I thought the readings by (author's name) were fantastic," she says enthusiastically. "He really touched on all the major themes."

    She throws out a few more generic comments. She's off the hook. She's implied to the instructor that she's done the work, and the instructor, happy with a positive review, moves on.

    Moments later, though, Unbelieveable Classmate Contender is heard from again: "Oh, gosh," she says. "I think I'm gonna black out. I'd better go call my boyfriend."

    The instructor, concerned, follows her out and disappears for about 10 minutes. Was she truly sick? I don't know, though I have my doubts.

    Was she in the wrong classroom? Absolutely. With those acting skills, she should be majoring in political science. I don't know whether to be in awe or horrified. But I know this much: She's not gonna last as a nursing major.
  7. by   stpauligirl
    With those acting skills, she should be majoring in political science.

    ROFLMAO
  8. by   charebec65
    Quote from wdwpixie
    Yeah....and some of them will be your classmates....we had a test last week (kinda' tough) and some people mentioned asking the instructor if they showed them they had circled the right answer on the test booklet we worked on, but didn't transfer right to the answer sheet/scantron, can they could get credit!! C'MON....do they do that when you sit for the NCLEX?!?!.....
    And what are these same students going to do as nurses if they transfer the wrong numbers into a patient's chart? Oh, sorry Mr. Jones, I accidently wrote down 128/85 for your wife's blood pressure instead of 182/148 so she didn't give the immediate treatment she needed and died...
    Yes, mistakes are made but it's not always possible to go back and rectify them.

    Our graduating class had people everywhere from 18 years old to 53 with the average at probably early 30s. There were several people that asked the question being discussed. I even heard it asked, "If it's not going to be on the test then why teach it?" I had the comment made to me about not having to worry about it because I'm smart. While I'm not intellectually challenged, neither am I Einstein. I studied to get the grades I got and it was made clear to us that anything in the reading or lecture was testable, therefore important for our career as nurses.
  9. by   starzzmom
    Here is my beef...along the same lines as the original poster.

    Our teacher lectures DIRECTLY OUT OF THE BOOK. He has done this from the start. He will hand out an outline and lecture and everyone takes notes on this outline. But, he is basically lecturing verbatim out of the book. I follow along and do actually find it somewhat helpful, particularly if I have pre-read, but I digress.

    My beef is "Can you repeat that". Can you not read? I just want to shout...it's on Page 186 in bold letters. Duh?
  10. by   WDWpixieRN
    Quote from starzzmom
    Here is my beef...along the same lines as the original poster.
    Our teacher lectures DIRECTLY OUT OF THE BOOK. He has done this from the start. He will hand out an outline and lecture and everyone takes notes on this outline. But, he is basically lecturing verbatim out of the book. I follow along and do actually find it somewhat helpful, particularly if I have pre-read, but I digress.
    My beef is "Can you repeat that". Can you not read? I just want to shout...it's on Page 186 in bold letters. Duh?
    This also reminds me of a couple of classmates....there are two in particular always chirping in....finishing the instructor's sentences if they falter for a fraction of a second, or adding their own footnote to whatever's been said at least once each lecture....but then, they're often the same ones who will ask a question that's practically a whole section in the book that you could only miss if someone cut it out of the text!! That's truly when I want to yell, "Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!" That's when it's obvious they haven't read a thing, but want everyone to know how smart they are....doing that nodding and "uh huh" thing someone else mentioned above.

    Oh, no, it doesn't change just because you're officially in NS...those same students also get admitted along with you!! So better to learn how to deal with them now!!
  11. by   IaCountryGirl
    Fortunately, I haven't run into that......YET. I only take one actual physical class and the rest are online. But people like that drive me batty!

    The one class I go to has a couple girls that just jabber up a storm. The instructor got really fed up with them last week. When she'd call them on their talking, they'd claim they were discussing class related stuff. LOL YEAH RIGHT!

    There's also another woman in my class who when she speaks up, tends to ramble on and on. And you can tell she's very unsure of herself and her answers. She'll repeat herself A LOT. But it's frustrating- I want to scream "Spit it out already! The clock is ticking!" Ok that's not very nice of me, but I was just being honest:spin:
  12. by   Honeychild
    I HATE it when people do this!! It drives me batty! I want to scream "Get a RECORDER"
  13. by   Honeychild
    Quote from charebec65
    I had the comment made to me about not having to worry about it because I'm smart. While I'm not intellectually challenged, neither am I Einstein. I studied to get the grades I got and it was made clear to us that anything in the reading or lecture was testable, therefore important for our career as nurses.
    THANK YOU! I can't stand it when other people make comments to me like this. It all started when our Peds instructor anounced IN FRONT OF THE CLASS that I had set the curve for the test and that I had only gotten one question wrong. DUH! So many people approached me after class to say something about "studying less" so they could do better. BLAHH! Why don't YOU study harder. I work really hard for my grades and I shouldn't feel guilty about getting A's, even if it means that the curve isn't as nice to other people. AHHH!

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