ADN Program worth it?

subee, MSN, CRNA · Apr 30

Don't do it! You may only be able to work in the state where you got your degree because of the lack of accreditation. Please read the threads on AN about students who went to illegitimate schools in Florida. 18 months just by itself sounds very sketchy unless you are talking about a PN program.

Julia N. · Apr 30

subee said:

Don't do it! You may only be able to work in the state where you got your degree because of the lack of accreditation. Please read the threads on AN about students who went to illegitimate schools in Florida. 18 months just by itself sounds very sketchy unless you are talking about a PN program.

"Nursing Program is Authorized to award an A.S. by the NY State Board of Regents. Both Campuses are registered by NY State Education Department"

That's what the program director said to us during our admissions meeting ^

Im not too sure what to do because I can't find an RN program I can get into 😞

subee, MSN, CRNA · Apr 30

Julia N. said:

"Nursing Program is Authorized to award an A.S. by the NY State Board of Regents. Both Campuses are registered by NY State Education Department"

That's what the program director said to us during our admissions meeting ^

Im not too sure what to do because I can't find an RN program I can get into 😞

I'm confused. You already went to nursing school and it was in NY State? Did you go to Excelsior? Their program is considered "inadequate" in several states. Why can't you get into another RN program?

FullGlass, BSN, MSN, NP · Apr 30

Don't do it. For an ADN, your best bet is a community college. That would save you a lot of $. Once you have your RN, then you can do a bridge to BSN program, which many employers will pay for.

Medic2RN72, BSN, RN, EMT-P · Apr 30

Community college ADN then bridge to BSN.....

JoanRN51 · May 3

Things are very different than when I got my ADN and RN in 1971. With my ADN I was able to be School Nurse, Hospital Nurse, Nursing Supervisor, Hospital Infection Preventionist and Hospital Quality Improvement Coordinator/ Risk Manager. I never pursued more education than ADN. I'm sure I wouldn't have these opportunities today with ADN. It was good for me. I retired almost 10 years ago

DoGoodThenGo · May 4

List of ACEN accredited programs in NYS:

https://www.acenursing.org/search-programs?state=New+York&program-type=Associate

CCNE-Accredited programs in NYS: https://directory.ccnecommunity.org/reports/rptAccreditedPrograms_New.asp?state=NY&sFullName=New York

Then you have places like St. Paul's schools of nursing in Queens and Staten Island who aren't accredited by either of above but Accrediting Bureau of Health Education Schools (ABHES).

https://nurse.org/education/st-paul-nursing-review/#:~:text=Paul's School of Nursing has,Health Education Schools (ABHES).

Finally, you have this:

"Prior to January 15, 2021, all registered nursing education programs in New York State were accredited by the Board of Regents. In December 2020, the scope of the accreditation was changed to include only those nursing programs that identify the Board of Regents as its sole programmatic accrediting agency. After January 15, 2021, those programs that identified the ACEN and/or the CCNE as the programmatic accrediting agency could choose to also have the BOR accreditation under the current accreditation term. Such BOR accreditation would not be renewed at the end of the current accreditation term."

https://www.op.nysed.gov/program-registration-nursing-accreditation/nursing-accreditation/accredprogsother

Or; https://www.op.nysed.gov/program-registration-nursing-accreditation/nursing-accreditation/accredprograms

Answer to OP's query is complicated. Without knowing specific program in question, it may prove difficult to supply with firm response.

Program may be accredited by NYS only and or hold two different accreditations.

When looking at nursing programs two factors initially stand out; first time board passing rates and who hires their alumni. If no one will touch graduates of a program with a barge pole, this regardless of GPA and first-time board passing rates, it wants further investigation.

DGTG

DoGoodThenGo · May 4

FullGlass said:

Don't do it. For an ADN, your best bet is a community college. That would save you a lot of $. Once you have your RN, then you can do a bridge to BSN program, which many employers will pay for.

For much if not all of NYS getting into a community college or any other ADN program is difficult as BSN schools. Even accelerated BSN programs are beating applicants back with sticks.

NYS may have "BSN in Ten" but many other states do not. ADN grads here if cannot find work locally will go to other states, find work and complete a bridge course to get the BSN.

Since many places here hire few to no new grads (BSN or ADN) with no experience someone who has an ADN, worked elsewhere and taken bridge route to BSN may come out ahead.

DGTG

SydneyRN11 · Sep 18

If you want to work right away, I say do it. ADN programs help students get their feet out the door quicker than traditional 4-year BSN programs, and they are much cheaper as well. ADN and BSN graduates both sit for the same NCLEX exam and go through the same foundation courses an RN must know. The only main difference is that BSN has additional training in leadership and management courses. Once you work as an RN with an ADN, many facilities also help pay for your BSN program which is about 1-2 years long and since you already established knowledge well into the field, it should come quite easy to finish. The cons about doing ADN is that depending on your location, many hospitals will prefer to hire someone with a BSN, but can grant you the position with your intention of going back to school to get your BSN. Also, RNs with BSN degrees earn more money on average than those with an ADN.

I was accepted into an ABSN program last Summer after completely changing my career path a year or 2 ago. Im 29 with a bachelors in social science. The program was SO expensive, but I had to leave my 2 jobs in the education field to become a full time student. I failed 2 classes and was dismissed from the program. I fell in love with nursing and I don't want to give up, so I am currently in the process of applying to a community college that is well within my budget to get my ADN.

subee, MSN, CRNA · Sep 19

SydneyRN11 said:

If you want to work right away, I say do it. ADN programs help students get their feet out the door quicker than traditional 4-year BSN programs, and they are much cheaper as well. ADN and BSN graduates both sit for the same NCLEX exam and go through the same foundation courses an RN must know. The only main difference is that BSN has additional training in leadership and management courses. Once you work as an RN with an ADN, many facilities also help pay for your BSN program which is about 1-2 years long and since you already established knowledge well into the field, it should come quite easy to finish. The cons about doing ADN is that depending on your location, many hospitals will prefer to hire someone with a BSN, but can grant you the position with your intention of going back to school to get your BSN. Also, RNs with BSN degrees earn more money on average than those with an ADN.

I was accepted into an ABSN program last Summer after completely changing my career path a year or 2 ago. Im 29 with a bachelors in social science. The program was SO expensive, but I had to leave my 2 jobs in the education field to become a full time student. I failed 2 classes and was dismissed from the program. I fell in love with nursing and I don't want to give up, so I am currently in the process of applying to a community college that is well within my budget to get my ADN.

BSNprograms also have a semester of public health which you need to get most jobs in the field. I did not have any leadership or management class when I got my BSN.