Unfair Fundamentals Clinical Testing?

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I want to ask you a question so I can finally put closer into this school issue. I retook the clinical exam that I was talking to you about and a failed for the second time so I had to withdraw from the course. Although somehow I think that the instructions by the professor was not clear and that's why I failed. The four skills I had to perform were (1) wound dressing (2) tap water enema (3) Intramuscular injection (4) hanging a primary and secondary IV bag. When I got inside the lab, all the instructor said was "these are the three things, all you're supplies are there (she gestured to a table which was against the nurse's station), you have 30 minutes, and you can not ask questions when the exam begins" On the table, there was some supplies, however, not everything was there, and a thin binder that was closed. During previous clinical exams that I took, I was always handed the MAR so I didn't think to look inside the binder. I also did not know what the enema was so I figured that I'll do the first thing I know which was the wound cleaning. I grabbed the dressing care tray and went to the mannequin. Immediately after opening the tray I realized that I did not have the saline, but when I looked at the table, it wasn't there. In the tray there was hydrogen peroxide swabs so I used that thinking that since the saline was not on the table, the swabs must be the alternative thing to use to clean the wound. After, I went back to the table and since I didn't see the primary bag, and I had no idea what the enema looked like, I assumed the enema bag is what I should use because it the only thing that looked similar to the primary bag. I obviously couldn't do it because there are no ports, so I just hung the secondary bag. However, I kept saying that there no primary bag and the instructor did not say anything. After, I proceeded to give the IM injection and there was three vials that were there so I chose the Heparin since the other two vials seemed very small. Later I she told told me that Heparin is given SC, so it may have been the other two, but I'm not sure. Also, I didn't know how much to give since I was not given the MAR so I just gave 3cc. Last, I told her that I don't know what the enema was. Then, I saw the primary bag which was on the side of the nurse's station and the saline which was behind the counter. In my opinion, the instructions were so unclear from the start because all the supplies were not on the table and she implied that "everything I need is there." The sterile gloves were even in the closet which I asked for at the beginning and the mannequin did not even have a wound, she had to put a bandage on it in the middle of the exam. At the start she also kept referring to her sheet which had the three skills, instead of handing me the binder so I didn't think to look inside the binder. Sara thinks that I am 80% wrong because I didn't know my stuff enough to ask for the MAR, prepare my supplies to notice that what was on the table was incomplete, and realize that the enema bag can not be used as a substitute for the primary bag. Do you think it's right for her to fail me, or do you agree with me that the instructions were so miss leading and confusing, almost like a setup so I can fail again? Should the instructor also be responsible? Sorry if that this message is so long, but I wanted you to have write all the facts.

Specializes in Emergency, Telemetry, Transplant.

I know it seems like people are beating up on you, so I'm not going to repeat what has been said, but I needed to add this....

When I was in school and we were learning about med administration, one of the instructors made the point that "this is thing that you routinely do that, if done in correctly, poses the greatest potential harm to patients." We can argue about "routinely" and "greatest," but her point was well taken. There was almost no mistake that could get you kicked out of school faster than making an error in med administration. You gave a med without consulting the MAR. What's more, you didn't even know what med your were giving, nor did you know the proper dose. I know this is harsh, but that clearly demonstrates unsafe practices, and is the set up for a major error.

Perhaps a PP was right, that you are just pulling our chain...in a sense, I hope you are. Otherwise, some deep introspection is necessary. Also, start thinking of a plan for getting back into school. Based on what you describe, I would not be surprised if this school did not take you back.

The only thing I hear that was possibly not fair was the instructor's comment that everything you would need was on the table, when not everything was there. Otherwise, the failure is on you.

Did you know what would be tested and did you practice beforehand? You can't just go into these things cold and expect to do well.

Even though it appears you're just starting school, you really should have known what an enema bag looks like and what a primary IV bag looks like. You should have know you have to have an order for injecting meds so you know what med and how much to give (probably in the binder). You should already know that heparin is not given IM and should have an idea of common doses. You should know some basic meds and not be picking out something because of the size of container!

This isn't about "I failed a test," it's about "I failed a test because my lack of knowledge makes me dangerous."

A pause or two or three or four is definitely in order. I can't even go there. Make a paragraph please.

Do it as a favor to yourself. It may even help sort things out a bit for yourself. :inlove:

Specializes in OB-Gyn/Primary Care/Ambulatory Leadership.
I want to ask you a question so I can finally put closer into this school issue. I retook the clinical exam that I was talking to you about and a failed for the second time so I had to withdraw from the course. Although somehow I think that the instructions by the professor was not clear and that's why I failed.

So everyone else who took the test failed as well? Or was the majority of the class able to pass, in spite of the professor's instructions?

Specializes in Case manager, float pool, and more.
I want to ask you a question so I can finally put closer into this school issue. I retook the clinical exam that I was talking to you about and a failed for the second time so I had to withdraw from the course. Although somehow I think that the instructions by the professor was not clear and that's why I failed.

So it was an exam? This means you knew those were skills you'd be tested on. Did you prepare? If so, how did you prepare? Did you go to a skills lab and practice?

Specializes in Complex pedi to LTC/SA & now a manager.

Neither.

Refunds are for students who withdraw before school starts.

Incomplete is not for students that fail the same clinical skills exam twice.

I'm stuck on enema bag forced to work as primary IV. Way to kill someone.

Specializes in School Nursing.
Your test experience reads to me like an experience someone with no nursing school experience at all would have trying to demonstrate those skills flying by the seat of their pants. Did you go to class? Study? Practice these skills? At all before the test? Usually for skills tests they give you an idea of what skills you need to demonstrate. Have you started caring for real live people yet?

If you think skills testing is stressful just wait until you have a sick patient counting on you to help them get better. And their physician/nurse/lawyer relative next to them in the room.

This is exactly what I thought. Cluelessness.

When nothing about a story makes sense, it usually isn't true.

New poster. Two posts about the same thing. Never comes back to comment. This smacks of someone from the SDN having some fun riling up the nurses on AN. I think it warrants shutting this dumpster fire of a thread down.

Specializes in Geriatrics, Dialysis.
New poster. Two posts about the same thing. Never comes back to comment. This smacks of someone from the SDN having some fun riling up the nurses on AN. I think it warrants shutting this dumpster fire of a thread down.

Yep, totally agree. If this poster is for real, yikes! I have a hard time believing anybody could possibly be that clueless. Using an enema bag interchangeably with an IV bag if you can't find the right bag? Sure, sounds like a great idea. Give an IM injection of whatever vial is sitting around, and since there's no MAR handy to actually look at an order I think I'll just guess based on the size of the vial, oh and take a stab at the dose because 3 cc of whatever is in the mystery vial must be the right dose. Sure, that's the right way to do things! Cripes, the least offensive portion of this "test" the OP admits to doing is using a peroxide swab instead of saline to clean a wound since that's what was sitting there. At least that resulted in the least likely of these scenario's to actually kill somebody.

I could almost understand you freezing and blowing it once, but this was the second time you took it. Yikes.

New poster. Two posts about the same thing. Never comes back to comment. This smacks of someone from the SDN having some fun riling up the nurses on AN. I think it warrants shutting this dumpster fire of a thread down.

Wuzzie, was does SDN stand for? I'm sorry but my brain isn't coming up with an answer :)

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