Any ADN-BSN programs without ridiculous papers? - page 6

Taking my 1st ADN-BSN class. Thinking of dropping it with only 1 week left. 1st class and already a 6 to 8 page paper. A concept analysis of 1 of the following 4 words: Caring, Hope, Trust, or... Read More

  1. Visit  BrandonLPN profile page
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    The assignment is just too vague.

    I agree, you can have an assignment focusing on the human side of nursing. The art of nursing, as opposed to the science. But assign a paper on a "concept analysis" of hope and all you get is 6-8 pages of nonsense and clap-trap.

    How about an 8 page essay on "realizing your actuality"? When instructors base their assignments around silly academic buzz words, they end up with work that indeed is pure fluff and filler.
    DizzyLizzyNurse, morte, BlueDevilNC, and 1 other like this.
  2. Visit  RNperdiem profile page
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    I am sympathetic to the frustration of the OP. You feel like you are doing fluff and paying a whole lot for it too.
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  3. Visit  retiredlady profile page
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    I know that you are frustrated with the assignment, but I think it will help you in the long run. Just start by taking a deep breath and define the word, then tell what it means to you and give examples that were in your life. I think it would be one of the easier writing papers, at least to me and if you only have 1 week to go, I know that you can do this. Remember when you start working that there will be a lot of things that you think don't make sense, but you will have to do them if you want to keep your job. Good luck, you can do this!!
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  4. Visit  ♪♫ in my ♥ profile page
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    Quote from dirtyhippiegirl
    But...why? I don't need physics or calculus to practice as a basic floor/ICU nurse. Or even organic chem. Even within medical schools, there's a slow trend towards moving away from purely scientific-based undergraduate degrees and a stronger emphasis on the humanities. Plenty of clinical MDs will tell you that advanced courses in the hard sciences and mathematics are useless to their current practice.

    I feel like placing an emphasis on "mathematics and hard sciences" is just a way to justify/prove intellect, if that makes any sense? It's an arbitrary measure taken to make something or someone seem smarter because, at least in the US, students have a harder time grasping those concepts and getting good grades in them. It narrows the potential student pool without necessarily contributing anything to the knowledge base that said student will eventually rely on to practice.

    You don't need hard science to impart critical thinking and reasoning skills.
    I suppose it's a matter of philosophy and what constitutes sufficient foundational education.

    Much of education in many fields isn't strictly needed in order to practice the vocation. However, foundational education does allow one to more easily understand the systems or situations that they are studying.
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  5. Visit  BrandonLPN profile page
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    Quote from ♪♫ in my ♥
    I suppose it's a matter of philosophy and what constitutes sufficient foundational education.

    Much of education in many fields isn't strictly needed in order to practice the vocation. However, foundational education does allow one to more easily understand the systems or situations that they are studying.

    But the OP (presumably) already took prereqs that included English and composition. Thus the foundational education is already there. I'm under the impression the OP was assigned this paper within an actual nursing class. Once one hits the actual nursing program itself, the curriculum should become more focused.

    One spends a year or two in a BSN program doing general Ed classes before beginning the actual nursing program, after all.
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  6. Visit  AJJKRN profile page
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    "I find no educational value in writing a 6-8 page paper on a word."

    Me either but this is how they have figured out how to give us our credits and graduate us. I knew I was going to have to do papers, they're easier once you discover that you can just about BS anything...so start BSing and see how far you can get!

    I'm just grateful I found a school with no clinical requirements. I get that in every 12 hour shift I work!!!

    Chin up, don't look before you leap...when this is all over...it'll be worth it to your employer (or any new employers)!

    (I do believe in continuing ed, not knocking it people, but I do feel at this point that my 10K ADN education was leaps and bounds over this 20K RN-BSN though, but yes, they shouldn't just hand us a degree)
  7. Visit  netglow profile page
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    Quote from ♪♫ in my ♥
    The fact that you have "absolutely no idea what to say" on one of these topics suggests to me that this is a perfect assignment for you.

    If you could sit down and whip out a quality paper with little thought would indicate that this was a ridiculous assignment for you.

    The point of education is to get you to think and examine.
    No. I think I am with the OP on this. You know the times in life when you are so disgusted at other's mediocrity that you want to just walk away. +1000 when you just wrote a check for more of that mediocrity and you are so tempted to turn your back on all this stupidity. Really, somebody should be paying us to put up with the mediocrity that is nursing edu. A person can feel like they are the largest stooge.
  8. Visit  hodgieRN profile page
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    I feel the OP's pain. I enjoyed learning how to write scholarly papers and how to properly research subjects. I didn't like the flimsy, non-specific, nursing-based theory articles that talk about nothing for 25 pages. Ironically, some of the articles seemed like the author didn't really have anything specific to say, but they had to write something that resembled an article. I just said ok and gave them what they want b/c I wanted the BSN. I personally like medically-based theory and treatments. I don't subscribe to nursing journals because most of the articles are vague, boring, and complete nonsense. Some of the articles are there so the authors can fill the publishing requirements that they have to fill. "Cross examination of perception among theoretical thinking with consideration to care across the spectrum." It's almost laughable. There are some articles that talk about hypertension or mobilization of intubated patients...that's the good stuff. Everything else is whimsical and wordy, and the only supported references are other whimsical articles. Ethics was a good class. Community health was a good class. And my research class was great because we got to pick something real....like a process improvement or a managerial study. I just hated researching for the articles because there was usually nothing there. You have to use nursing journals and all the good stuff was from medical journals.

    Just stick with it. Do what you gotta do. Try to concentrate on the fact that they are teaching you to write scholarly papers and teaching how to research for essays. It will pay off in post grad work. So, if you have to write an essay on fear, just research fear and just fill it with whatever. Just make sure you fill the requirements for the paper and make sure your articles are peer-reviewed. Your frustration with nursing theory and the fine line between nursing and medicine... I would say many people feel the same way. Just give them what they want and take in the parts of how to write papers.
  9. Visit  BrandonLPN profile page
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    Quote from netglow
    No. I think I am with the OP on this. You know the times in life when you are so disgusted at other's mediocrity that you want to just walk away. +1000 when you just wrote a check for more of that mediocrity and you are so tempted to turn your back on all this stupidity. Really, somebody should be paying us to put up with the mediocrity that is nursing edu. A person can feel like they are the largest stooge.
    As someone who has never attended a BSN program or any other university level education of any kind, I have no personal experience here.....

    BUT, I do know many people who obtained MBAs or four year degrees in various non nursing fields. And several of these people, due to economic realities, would go on to later get their BSN. All of them say that, compared to their other degrees, the BSN program was rather.... soft. Most say it was considerably less difficult.

    Which always surprised me, since I have always been under the impression that nursing programs are among the most difficult and strict.

    But, with enough people who would know saying otherwise, it makes you wonder.
  10. Visit  BostonFNP profile page
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    Quote from BrandonLPN

    As someone who has never attended a BSN program or any other university level education of any kind, I have no personal experience here.....

    BUT, I do know many people who obtained MBAs or four year degrees in various non nursing fields. And several of these people, due to economic realities, would go on to later get their BSN. All of them say that, compared to their other degrees, the BSN program was rather.... soft. Most say it was considerably less difficult.

    Which always surprised me, since I have always been under the impression that nursing programs are among the most difficult and strict.

    But, with enough people who would know saying otherwise, it makes you wonder.
    Nursing education can/should be more strict and difficult!
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  11. Visit  stlrgrl profile page
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    Quote from adnrnstudent
    Taking my 1st ADN-BSN class. Thinking of dropping it with only 1 week left.

    1st class and already a 6 to 8 page paper. A concept analysis of 1 of the following 4 words: Caring, Hope, Trust, or Fear.

    This is absolutely ridiculous. I have absolutely no idea what to say.

    The structure of these programs MUST change.

    I don't want to write papers every 5 weeks. I want to read a book and take a test.
    The goal of education is learning! How do you expect to learn if you refuse to challenge yourself?
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  12. Visit  Tait profile page
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    On a side note, concept analysis means a lot more to me than an opinion piece on a word. It is often a complex research paper to determine the value/meaning of a word within a context, such as productivity in nursing. If this a concept analysis, as the OP stated, that is a lot more than just a simple paper and might explain the length, though I find it hard to believe this is a starting assignment in a BSN bridge.

    http://nurseresearcher.rcnpublishing...hod-of-inquiry
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  13. Visit  ConnieDiamondWhite profile page
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    I took my ADN-BSN from Roberts Weslyan College in Rochester, New York. We had to do a 20-page paper every week. What do you want??? This requirement not only required us to learn to research topics competently and put them into a format others can understand (teaching), it challenged one to think outside of their own comfort zone. The research we did opened our minds to others thoughts and processes, providing a diversity that cannot be found in every day life. I was never so proud as when I completed that school and graduated with honors. When my job as a nurse requires researching something new that no one has ever encountered in our facility, I can do that in a heartbeat. Sharing with other staff is what I have been trained to do.
    Your school is quite easy on you, anything worth having is worth working for. Quit whining and get to work, learn things you DON'T know, that's what school is about.
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