Attitudes towards LPN's
- 2Aug 28, '09 by emt... rn studentHi, I am a nursing student, and after year 1 of my RN, Ive realized I can't afford to finish RN so I'm doing the 2 year LPN course instead. One day I do hope to upgrade but for now it will just be LPN. I've been reading alot of discussions on here and alot of what i read is people (RN's) talking about how bad LPNs are and how unsafe they are. I don't want to end up in a career where I have no respect from my colleagues. I thought we were all nurses, and although RNs do have a greater scope of practice what is the purpose of disrespecting LPNs?
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- 3Aug 28, '09 by Be_MooreAs an RN who once had to work with LPN's, it sort of sucks working with them, honestly. I mean, yes we are all nurses, but working with an LPN means that I have to do my job and parts of yours too. Which, let's face it, sucks.
I have a little bit of disrespect for LPN's, but not for the reason you would think. Personally, I think if you are smart enough to become an LPN, you're smart enough to become an RN. So it's only prudent to get the more advanced degree and in some cases nearly double your income. I used to work with a 26 year veteran LPN who was an amazing clinician...but I as a newgrad made substantially more money than her. My disrespect for her was not based on her skills (because she was an amazing nurse), but because of complacency. I hate complacency.
- 10Aug 28, '09 by RNBSNMeI think it is unfair to generalize. Ive worked with some LPN's that are great and know a lot more than RN's. If that is what you can do right now, I say go for the LPN. When u do graduate..u are a nurse regardless of being an LPN or an RN. Good luck
- 13Aug 28, '09 by husker_rnAnd this fussing at each other is one of the reasons nursing is in the state it's in; if we can't respect each other, is it any wonder other disciplines have a lack of respect for us. I have my BSN but learn every day from the great RNs, LPNs, and CNAs I work with.
- 17Aug 28, '09 by NotFloI was going to post to say that by and large, I see very few posts "disrespecting" LPNs...then one of the first responses says they disrespect LPNs. Well, do you have a BSN? Do you think you deserve to be disrespected by nurses with master's degrees or APRNs? Or should all doctors disrespect nurses because the nurses were too complacent to become MDs? I don't get your attitude at all. Everyone's life and circumstances are different.
I also wanted to say I would never work in a hospital because I don't want to be in the position of chasing RNs for IV pushes, etc. I would feel like a constant pain in the ass to my colleages.
I like rehab., I have a reasonable amount of autonomy.
- 1Aug 28, '09 by ScrubbyWe have similar issues in Australia with Enrolled Nurses-our equivelant to LPN's.
I have noticed that there is some degree of disrespect towards EN's because many RN's perceive that they are a burden on workload. That is why we delegate. If you have to do IV meds and so on for EN's/LPN's then they can help you out with bed baths, vitals, fluid balance etc.
But....I have also worked with EN's who have a resentful attitude towards RN's as well. I was yelled at by an EN for wanting to delegate my vitals signs to the EN. I had a huge medication round to do because I had to give meds for her 4 patients as well as my own. My request was well within her time frame yet she screamed that she was sick and tired of having to do nothing but vitals. I basically told them that if they have issues with delegation and are unhappy with their scope of practice then go to university and become an RN.
Be_Moore-Perhaps these LPN colleagues of yours did not wish to advance their career because they are quite happy with their job. oOr they did not want the extra responsibility that an RN has. I work with a highly skilled EN who actually made it 2/3rds of the way through an RN degree and gave up. Not because they weren't smart or anything but because they realised that they do not possess the degree of assertiveness that is needed of an RN.
- 4Aug 28, '09 by nyteshadeYou will be whatever type of nurse YOU choose to be, and it doesn't matter what follows behind your name. I started as a LPN, and my instructors taught me with their heart and soul. We went in depth as much as they could take us...in pharm, it wasn't good enough to know the drug class, and common side effects... we were expected to recite if the medication was affecting an alpha 1,2 or beta 1,2 receptor, etc, how it affects the overall person, yada, yada. I honestly felt bad when I went back to school (in a generic program) and the instructors didn't expect this of us.
Now for the kicker...I was in high school at the same time I earned my LPN!