Nursing: The Caring Profession

You don't have to have a calling to be a good nurse, but you do have to care. I'd go so far as to say FIRST you have to care. Lots of great nurses are in it for the money, but one characteristic all great nurses share is that they care about their patients. I would argue that someone who doesn't care should not even BE a nurse! Nurses Announcements Archive Article

I've gone on record as vigorously opposing the idea that one must have a "calling" to become a nurse, or even to become a good nurse. Even someone who is just in it "for the money" can be a fabulous nurse, and someone who has a calling can be totally incompetent. To be a nurse, you need to be able to communicate well in English (both oral and written form), understand enough mathematics to calculate drug dosages, memorize that a PT goes in a blue tube and a Chem panel in a gold top (or whatever color coding your institution uses), be able to make assessments, plan care and you must be able to utilize your critical thinking skills. (And myriad other things that I could spend all day enumerating without ever getting to my point.)

But the smartest person in the world won't be a good -- or even half bad -- nurse if he or she doesn't CARE.

I'm not talking about warm blankets and fluffy pillows and bringing sodas from the vending machine and attending your patient's funerals or their children's bat mitzvah's. Most of us don't have enough time to do as much of that as we'd like to. I'm talking about caring about your patients enough to advocate for them, protect them and do your very best.

In the past few days, I've seen a few threads that trouble me a great deal. There's the CNA whose patient fell in the bathroom. While the patient was still in CT, the CNA was on allnurses.com wondering what this fall would do to her record, how it might affect her future plans. She listed four concerns and not one of them was a concern about the patient. The fall serious enough to require a CT, and her first concern was for herself. In fact, it seems that her only concern is for herself. It was only after attention was called to her list of concerns being about herself and not her patient that she responded with: "Let's simmer down, ladies. Of course I was concerned with how she was and it was obviously implied. No hemorrhages were found in the CT. "

Then there's the student who was "kicked out of clinicals for a HIPAA violation." He went on to describe a series of egregious errors including a near miss with an insulin dose that was 10 times the ordered dose and concluded with a litany of excuses for his mistakes and complaints about the unfairness (to him) of the situation. Again, this person expressed no concern for the patient he could have harmed or even killed ; his concern was that he had no advocate for the disciplinary process, that it was totally unfair to him, cost him an extra semester and tuition money and that he didn't think there was a HIPAA violation anyway. (For the record, I don't think so either. I think he was asked out of the clinical for "reckless and unsafe behavior.)

Again, it was only when it was pointed out to him that his first concern should be for the patient, that he responded with "you have no idea how I grieved because of the insulin error or how much it affected me. " And in a later post, added: "They were really after me that day," and "Perhaps you didn't read the part where I said that it severely affected my psyche. " Again -- all the concern expressed is for himself and none for the patients he could hurt.

Caring isn't enough to make a good nurse, but without caring you cannot be one. Everyone makes medication errors -- I've made some whoppers! The difference between a caring nurse and an uncaring one is that the caring nurse's first concern is for the patient who was harmed or potentially harmed, not for himself or herself. I remember an error with a heparin drip that had the patient's PTT in the stratosphere and his urine cherry red. I don't remember being concerned about whether the error went on my record or whether I'd be fired -- I was devastated by the harm I had done to that nice old man. And that's what I told the physician, the charge nurse, my manager, the pharmacist, my husband and the colleague who noticed the error. No one had any reason to question whether I understood the enormity of my mistake or cared about the patient involved.

I was the nurse caring for the patient who went down half a flight of stairs head first. My immediate concern was for the patient -- calling the doctor, getting the patient off the floor and to CT, watching him like a hawk all night long. Of course I was concerned for the potential damage for my career, but is was way far down the list of my concerns. WAY far. For some of these folks, their ONLY concern seems to be for themselves and their grade, possible disciplinary action, a bad mark against them.

The nurse who really doesn't care about the patient first isn't a good nurse and I would argue that they shouldn't even be a nurse at all.

I had to learn things the hard way -- there was no internet or an AN when I started. I contribute here because I'm hopeful that maybe my advice will keep someone else from having to learn the hard way. And in return I am hated, vilified, put down, called names . . . .

But your second paragraph put a whole different spin on all that, so maybe I'm lucky, too, that I'm not around trying to give advice back in the day.

There a times when I wonder if it's worth it, or if I should just leave today's new nurses, nursing students and wannabe nurses to stumble about and figure things out on their own. There are times I wish I could reach through the internet and give some of these kids a much-needed Gibbs-like head-slap. But I guess part of being an old nurse -- a crone, even -- is giving back. So here's me, attempting to help. Still.

And don't ever stop. Whether they know it or not, they need us out here, and when they are old, perhaps they'll remember we tried to help them. Giving back is a higher calling.

Specializes in Med-Surg, NICU.
You know what, the older I get, the more I disagree with you, TPB (though that is my very favorite movie of all time-- and why Dobby and not, oh, an RUS or Billy Crystal?). I think there is ample evidence of the fact that the self-esteem pendulum has gone waaaaaaaaay too far over there, and somebody has to be standing ready to give it a good shove back now and then without caring much one way or the other whether anybody likes it or not.

I will absolutely grant you that this characteristic of older women probably accounts for the reason they burnt, drowned, and hanged so many of us back in the day; perhaps name calling on anonymous Internet board is much-diluted but just the same attitude expressed in a more modern (and less violent) way.

I am sure somewhere along the line a beloved grandmother or auntie told you to knock it off, or that your behavior was completely unacceptable, or that the little tantrum you just threw was childish, or that the stunt you pulled at someone's wedding just begged you to be told that this was not about you and your grandstanding spoiled a special moment for someone else.

But I can tell you, as a grandmother who has done some of those things myself, that your grandmother loved you with all her heart because you were the future of her family, and the reason she said those things was to save you more heartache later...all the while knowing that life will bring you heartache anyway.

So with RubyVee (though perhaps she will forgive me for putting her in the crone/grandmother cohort, as I don't really know her age), and me, and the other old bats who think that way. Whether some folks like it or not, we are trying to give them the benefit of our hard-won experience because we love them, because they are the future of our profession. Perhaps this is where the new nurses come to see that elders are more than old people. We are old PEOPLE. And at AN, we're nurses, we can help.

This has nothing to do with the old versus young, but everything to do with making threads just to call-out certain posters based on assumptions (which I find very immature). I don't think that is right and so do some other posters in this thread. Why you are directing your post just at me, I have no idea.

You can't look into someone's heart based on a thread posted on the internet.

Specializes in Med-Surg, NICU.
​Aren't you doing the same thing?

I haven't made any call out threads. So...no?

Specializes in Med-Surg, NICU.
I had to learn things the hard way -- there was no internet or an AN when I started. I contribute here because I'm hopeful that maybe my advice will keep someone else from having to learn the hard way. And in return I am hated, vilified, put down, called names . . . .

But your second paragraph put a whole different spin on all that, so maybe I'm lucky, too, that I'm not around trying to give advice back in the day.

There a times when I wonder if it's worth it, or if I should just leave today's new nurses, nursing students and wannabe nurses to stumble about and figure things out on their own. There are times I wish I could reach through the internet and give some of these kids a much-needed Gibbs-like head-slap. But I guess part of being an old nurse -- a crone, even -- is giving back. So here's me, attempting to help. Still.

I don't understand how passive-aggressively calling out certain posters is even remotely trying to help. I've seen you do this before (make call out threads just to attack other people). Who died and gave you the right to tell people they shouldn't be nurses or don't have what it takes?

I haven't called you names, but I do find what you are doing to be immature at best and downright rude at worse. I'm not getting the sense that you are trying to "help" people, but if I'm wrong, I do apologize.

Specializes in Peds/outpatient FP,derm,allergy/private duty.

If you're the sensitive type you'll probably want to spend some time reading the boards before posting as I see so many people genuinely shocked that their topic didn't meet with universal warm fuzzies or someone with more experience brought up a related tangent they may not have considered.

I do sometimes cringe at the pile-on effect when 20 different people jump on a new poster with both feet all saying the same thing but in general hard, cold and straightforward delivered here is in all ways preferable here where the cost is manageable than out there where it may not be. I learned that from one of the nurses upthread. So when I read those try to keep that in mind.

Calling people out by name is not OK but Ruby's article fully explaining an aspect of the word "care" that integrates it with competence is really valuable as an alternative to the usual maudlin sap vs robot nurse.

I don't understand how passive-aggressively calling out certain posters is even remotely trying to help. I've seen you do this before (make call out threads just to attack other people). Who died and gave you the right to tell people they shouldn't be nurses or don't have what it takes?

I haven't called you names, but I do find what you are doing to be immature at best and downright rude at worse. I'm not getting the sense that you are trying to "help" people, but if I'm wrong, I do apologize.

Re: the intent of the OP.... I think she was just trying to start an intelligent conversation on an interesting subject. I don't see it as rude. I think experienced nurses sharing their opinion is always helpful, even if I don't agree with said opinion.

Re: the "passive aggressive calling people out" bit.... At worst, it was a minor Internet-etiquette faux pas to be that specific in her example. I don't think it was this huge act of rudeness or a personal attack or anything.

Once you post something on an Internet message board, you're opening up those comments to challenge and critiscism. Not just for the content of the comments but also how they're presented. The OP was pointing out that there's an awful lot of threads started about nursing errors where the tone is "What's going to happen to me?" when the real concern should be "What's going to happen to my patient?" or "How do I learn from this?".

If the OP refrenced a specific poster and a specific thread, well, why beat around the bush? It was just the cataclyst that got her thinking about the subject.

Specializes in Nephrology, Cardiology, ER, ICU.

This is an interesting topic.....it has generated a lot of very good discussion. However, we do ask that we debate the topic, not the poster. The topic is very popular in many corners of our world - that of taking responsibility for our own actions and putting others needs ahead of our own....

Specializes in Oncology; medical specialty website.
I had to learn things the hard way -- there was no internet or an AN when I started. I contribute here because I'm hopeful that maybe my advice will keep someone else from having to learn the hard way. And in return I am hated, vilified, put down, called names . . . .

But your second paragraph put a whole different spin on all that, so maybe I'm lucky, too, that I'm not around trying to give advice back in the day.

There a times when I wonder if it's worth it, or if I should just leave today's new nurses, nursing students and wannabe nurses to stumble about and figure things out on their own. There are times I wish I could reach through the internet and give some of these kids a much-needed Gibbs-like head-slap. But I guess part of being an old nurse -- a crone, even -- is giving back. So here's me, attempting to help. Still.

I learn something from almost every one of your posts, so even if some don't want to hear what you have to say, please remember that others do. Some of them COBs.

Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.
I learn something from almost every one of your posts so even if some don't want to hear what you have to say, please remember that others do. Some of them COBs. [/quote']

THIS... :yes:

I understand the point, and I totally agree with the OP here. The thing I'm wondering is weather the CNA & nursing students who posted their Qs aking about the implications of their errors on them probably assumed that other health personnel know that the patients are of the utmost concern in situations such as mentioned and were probably just looking for some advice or a soft shoulder to cry on after a hard day. In my opinion, caring is implied in nursing. It's not up to me to judge how much another person cares. I DO watch others' bed side manner and have a certian 'look' I give if I think something said could be hurtful to the pt. I HAVE taken a collaegue aside and spoke of my concerns. And if I ever witness abuse, I WILL NOT HESITATE to report it. I think we are here to encourage each other, not read too much into the writing style of the postings.

Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
I understand the point, and I totally agree with the OP here. The thing I'm wondering is weather the CNA & nursing students who posted their Qs aking about the implications of their errors on them probably assumed that other health personnel know that the patients are of the utmost concern in situations such as mentioned and were probably just looking for some advice or a soft shoulder to cry on after a hard day. In my opinion, caring is implied in nursing. It's not up to me to judge how much another person cares. I DO watch others' bed side manner and have a certian 'look' I give if I think something said could be hurtful to the pt. I HAVE taken a collaegue aside and spoke of my concerns. And if I ever witness abuse, I WILL NOT HESITATE to report it. I think we are here to encourage each other, not read too much into the writing style of the postings.

The original post pay have left some question about whether the posters were concerned about their patients or just themselves, and I'll grant you that I hadn't considered the possibility that they would ASSUME that we knew the patient came first. However, when it's pointed out to them that they seemed more concerned about the consequences to themselves than the consequences to the patient, the response was somewhat along the line of "Of COURSE I care about the patient. But what about MEEEEEEEE?" That isn't the response you'd get from someone who WAS truly concerned about the patient.

Unfortunately, I'm seeing lots of new grads lately who don't seem concerned about their patients. And that's just wrong.

I see your point Ruby Vee... But I TRY to give people the benefit of the doubt... try.... I am hoping this was more of a communication problem!!! Take Care!!!