Dont you just HATE some of your classmates?

Tweety, BSN, RN · Nov 17, 2005

I know I will get flamed but I kind of agree with this. Just yesterday my daughter (who is in 7th grade) told me for umpteenth time how mean the 8th graders are to the 7th graders in the girls PE locker room. The 8th graders are just plain mean to them telling them to get out of the way and such. They fell they are better than the 7th graders simply because they are now 8th graders. Luckily, I have taught my daughter that that type of behavior is wrong and that we ALL should be treated with respect.
When I was in High School I hung around with guys (as FRIENDS) because I got tired of all the "Oh you look so cute today" to your face and then "Did you SEE what she was wearing and how FAT it made her look" behind your back. To this day I do not have many female friends because of it.
I really hope it is not like that when I get a job at a hospital.

No flame, because that's your experience of life as you've lived it.

Guys are mean too. Trust me, the boys locker room isn't a love and peace fest. Maybe they are a bit up front about it, but still mean. "Butthead, you sure look stoooopid". Bullying among boys can be brutal. Guys can outcast another guy just as quick as mean girls can. Guys can also be physical in their bullying. That's why I had girlfriends and gay friends in school. And to this day don't have many male friends that aren't gay.

It's not exclusive to girls. But I don't generalize and stereotype guys/men because of my past experience.

In the adult world, it's also not exclusive to women either. So to say things like "nurses are mean/catty/whatever because it's a female dominated profession is wrong.

As always, jmo.

tencat · Nov 17, 2005

It's not high school, but sometimes it sure feels like it still is.

No matter how old they get, some people never mentally get past being 16. :rolleyes:

rn in 3 years · Nov 17, 2005

No flame, because that's your experience of life as you've lived it.
Guys are mean too. Trust me, the boys locker room isn't a love and peace fest. Maybe they are a bit up front about it, but still mean. "Butthead, you sure look stoooopid". Bullying among boys can be brutal. Guys can outcast another guy just as quick as mean girls can. Guys can also be physical in their bullying. That's why I had girlfriends and gay friends in school. And to this day don't have many male friends that aren't gay.
It's not exclusive to girls. But I don't generalize and stereotype guys/men because of my past experience.
In the adult world, it's also not exclusive to women either. So to say things like "nurses are mean/catty/whatever because it's a female dominated profession is wrong.
As always, jmo.

Maybe we should become friends!

My son is a Sophmore and I have never heard about these types of things happening as far as guys go but maybe that is because guys tend to keep these things to them selves and not confide in Mom like my daughter does.

I am a very no-nonsense type of person. If it is like this when I work in a hospital then I will not participate that's for sure.

Tweety, BSN, RN · Nov 17, 2005

Maybe we should become friends!
My son is a Sophmore and I have never heard about these types of things happening as far as guys go but maybe that is because guys tend to keep these things to them selves and not confide in Mom like my daughter does.
I am a very no-nonsense type of person. If it is like this when I work in a hospital then I will not participate that's for sure.

We'd probably make good friends. :)

I never really confided to mom about how bad it was for me in school. I think guys too tend to pick on a chosen few who are "different", a nerd or uncool in some fashion and if you have that label you have it for the duration of school. Hopefully, you son is out of the loop, both as a victum or a going along with the bullies and takes after you.

The main point I was trying to say, which I think you understood, that meaness, etc. is not gender specfic, at least not in my life experiences. :)

steelcityrn, RN · Nov 17, 2005

The Same Behaviors You See Now Will Follow You Into Your Nursing Job. Its One Huge Soap Opera And Alot Of Bad Actors.

august_snow · Nov 18, 2005

i had a few people in my class that i wasn't to crazy about in the beginning. so i took each one out to lunch. when i got them out of the classroom and got to talk to them one on one, i was amazed at how wrong i had been! i was even honest with them and told them i had thought this and that and apologized for being wrong. they admitted they could understand why i thought the things i did and gave me amazing insight on where they are coming from.

i honestly like and respect everyone of my classmates. we are so individual and unique. it is sort of like a family. some days we are there for one another and some days we can't wait to just get away from each other.

iToniai · Oct 2, 2006

I'm in an accelerated program and the big issue I'm having with some of my classmates is the lack of common sense and the overall stupidity I have to deal with on a daily basis. It's really horrible because we all are in the same class everyday and I have to deal with these people day in and day out for the next year and a half. It concerns me on just how unknowledgeable some of them are. For instance, some of them didn't know that we have to pass the NCLEX to become a RN, matter of fact some of them didn't even know what the NCLEX was. It seems like they just happened to stumble into nursing as a second career as oppose to really researching and deciding on nursing for reason more than just money. It's really bad when people who already have degrees are unmotivated and lazy; it's to the point that one of my professors is teaching the class in slow motion because he knows that many aren't doing the assigned reading and they will be the one raising their hand for him to spell simple words like "primary" or "lesions".

missninaRN · Oct 2, 2006

I honestly don't see any cliques or backstabbing going on in my class. And why should there be any competition now? We all got into nursing school, and I really want to see all of us finish. Of course, some people will be closer friends than others. We can't all be each other's best friends.

Maybe the attitude of our instructors contributes to this. They've said from the beginning that we are not competing against each other. It really does feel like we are all in this together and we lean on each other.

I think the fact that one of our classmates died in a car accident a few weeks ago helped to unite us. The first time we wore our school uniforms was to attend her funeral.

MySimplePlan · Oct 3, 2006

Wow. What a kick in the stomach your last line was. :Shaking head, throat hurting: :crying2:

I have the same sentiment about my classmates as you do. I don't see any backstabbing, either...in fact, everyone is truly helpful, a 'we're all in this together' atmosphere. I'm sure it helps that our instructors are great, too, and they have provided a top-down atmosphere that seems professional, friendly, and respectful.

There is not a day I wake up that I am not grateful to be in this nursing program. Your last sentence humbles me even more.

Jilaweez, BSN, MSN, RN · Oct 3, 2006

I know that in school you are only there to learn and not make friends.

Wow, I would think once you are in NS the competition wouldn't be an issue. It seems like a good time to forge new friendships. When you go in "knowing" that you are in school to learn and not to make friends you are subconsciously letting that attitude affect new relationships wether you know it or not.

missninaRN · Oct 3, 2006

Just realized that this is an old thread.

caroladybelle, BSN, RN · Oct 3, 2006

I've posted this before and will post it again.

I was a senior nursing student. We were doing our senior case studies. It was against the rules for us to make copies of patient documents, but could hand transcribe the date. Popular clique male nurse goes to make copies - offers to make copies for me - I decline, saying it is not permitted. I tell no one about this. No ONE!

Next week, instructor makes a big to do about hearing that students are making copies of patient data. Popular clique marks me as a "tattletale", though I said nothing to anyone.

Next week, I start my final practicum for graduation, on my preferred unit, Oncology, where the manager knows me and likes me. However, two senior staffers (4 or more years of experience each) target me and treat me like dirt. They try to have me to take the fall for a couple of things, complain loudly if I cannot get the IV started (they failed at starting said IV, but I am surethat it is because I "ruined" the good vein. They made my final weeks of nursing school Hell with a capital "H".

At the very end of the practicum, I find out that I will not get my covetted position on the Oncology unit. I end up on M/S purgatory floor. I also find out that the targetting nurses are best buds with Mister "labels me a tattler".

I work in M/S purgatory for two years,move to another state, become an awesome Oncology certified nurse, become a traveler and work in some of the top facilities in the Country.

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