Sorry state of Nursing ... - page 4

I am a Male RN with about 8 years of work experience in the ER, Prison, Acute PTSD/TBI @ the VA. I came from another Industry (Aviation/Airline), after 9/11 retrained into Nursing with the... Read More

  1. by   FlorenceNtheMachine
    [QUOTE=tabbybear68;7527282]
    Quote from GrnTea
    A little cheese with that whine?


    Rude much? If one does not want to see/hear the "whine" one has the option to pass on reading the post now doesn't one?
    I think he/she was just wanting to fire up a response in the readers. Like "I'm going to change my work environment, dag gummit!"

    Without too many details, my hospital is cutting bennies and diff's under the excuse ACA is going to bankrupt us. I want to unionize, it's bulldoo what they are doing to us. I have a mind to just throw my career to the wind to try to change something for me and my colleagues. Anyway, I wish I had a least a couple like-minded individuals in my hospital.
  2. by   loriangel14
    I find the OPs observations on nursing a generalization of his own experiences. I have experienced none of the degrading treatment that he complains of.My coworkers and superiors treat each other just fine.MDs are usually pleasant to deal with, civil if not down right friendly.I don't feel disrespected as a nurse.Abuse from AXO patients is very minimal and certainly not treated as the norm.I didn't recognize his description of nursing at all.
  3. by   Novo
    Nursing is in the state it's in today because of complacency and a lack of camaraderie. Where I live (Canada) during the late 80s there were massive strikes (in January, -40 degree weather) initiated by nurses over wages and working conditions. The government deemed the strikes "illegal" and legislated them back to work, but they continued to strike anyway and they were fined something like a million dollars? Emergency rooms were closed for weeks and surgeries were being delayed for months, and finally the government took notice and came to the bargaining table with a reasonable offers. As a result, wages improved (working conditions are another story) and today a new grad RN starts at $35/hr, the highest in the country.

    Morale of the story is instead of complaining you should be organizing your resources and demanding better wages and working conditions. Someone once told me you can run an entire hospital with a three physicians and a 100 nurses but, you can't run a hospital with 100 physicians and 5 nurses (not efficiently anyway).

    You have to show that as a nurse you are the backbone of the healthcare system and are indispensable. Nurses are always advocating for others, it's time to advocate for yourselves.
    Last edit by Novo on Sep 17, '13
  4. by   MunoRN
    Quote from PMFB-RN
    *** Being called off is unacceptable. When I went looking for a new job I decided I simply wasn't going to tolerate being called off anymore. I found a job where I never get called off. Even if there are hardly any patients in the hospital I get to work and am paid, unless I choose to go home or stay home.
    I had to work in a diffrent state to find such a job. The reason it is acceptable to be laid off for 4 hours each shift in nursing is because nurses tolerate it. I simply refuse to tolerate it anymore. I think none of us should.
    We seem to want it both ways. We get upset when we're expected to do housekeeping tasks because we're 'professionals' yet we don't to get called off when there's no additional Nursing services needed. Hospitals can either staff for their busiest times, their slower times, or in between, which means we either have to accept getting called off, or we have to accept mandatory overtime, one of the two (or accept doing whatever needs done, be it housekeeping, dishwashing, whatever).
  5. by   dblpn
    Quote from lub dub
    BSNs starting at $17/hour? Where?
    I don't think i wanna know, Yikes!
  6. by   dblpn
    I totally can relate to the maltreatment by some nurses i've seen this more often than not over my time in nursing. occasionally, you'll run into the nurse that has to but in and remind you that s/he knows more than you do and mention they've been a nurse for x amount of yrs. a lot of backstabbing, gossiping, clicking, you name IT! this is what nursing has become in a lot places.
  7. by   SubSippi
    But how do you not tolerate it? Do you just refuse to leave and keep doing your work?

    I don't like getting called off but I don't know anything I can do about it!

    (In reply to PMFB-RN)
  8. by   LaRN
    Quote from tokebi
    There are occasions where we get unfairly blamed for things out of our control, but your example is not it. .

    yes it is. it was determined that the breakdown was due to pt sitting up in her wheelchair for most of the day .......3 times. and she was offgrounds for pt so i had no access to her
  9. by   wooh
    Quote from adventure780
    that is way too low for a bsn
    Not in the south. We don't like unions down here. We prefer our low wages and freedom.
  10. by   applewhitern
    @Wooh: yes, you are right. Hardly any unions here in the deep south, plus most people won't listen to you talk about unions, anyway. Nursing salaries may be kinda low, but in my state, so is the cost of living and property taxes. BSN's and ADN's make the same around my area~maybe 25 cents difference per hour.
  11. by   Tao2200
    The only way to save our field is for nurses everywhere to start unionizing. Its time for nurses especially in the south to start realizing this. Without the unions the future of nursing is doomed. Looks what's happening at Orlando Health, the nurses are fighting for their livelihood.
    Last edit by Tao2200 on Sep 18, '13
  12. by   Howardhughes
    *** Being called off is unacceptable. When I went looking for a new job I decided I simply wasn't going to tolerate being called off anymore. I found a job where I never get called off. Even if there are hardly any patients in the hospital I get to work and am paid, unless I choose to go home or stay home.
    I had to work in a diffrent state to find such a job. The reason it is acceptable to be laid off for 4 hours each shift in nursing is because nurses tolerate it. I simply refuse to tolerate it anymore. I think none of us should.

    WELL SAID...Do police get pulled on a slow night. Fire Dept...hay... Thing were slow some times at USAIRWAYS...we went to the Training Dept and brushed up on systems
    and Sim time.... Call off's are another way senior management (that MBA making well over 600k...yes they make that figure and more) make their numbers.
    YOU ARE 100% CORRECT...we hold the power for change...ever heard the phrase "We hang tougher or we hang separately"...it apply s.





  13. by   elkpark
    I've been in nursing for almost 30 years now, almost a decade as a staff nurse, and in advanced practice since then. I find as I go through life that most people, in most situations, will treat you the way you act like you expect to get treated. I've been assertive and professional throughout my career, and I've found myself in v. few situations over the years in which I've felt significantly mistreated, let alone abused. I've taken a few jobs in which I've ended up "voting with my feet" and finding another job after finding the overall culture not to my liking. I've made a few compromises that suited my needs and purposes at the time. But I've never put up (for long) with working in a setting with which I wasn't reasonably satisfied.

    I guess that all of this is to say I'm a member of the "quit whining" club. Nursing is, IMO, the ultimate "big tent" -- there's something for everyone, and, if you are dissatisfied with one job/employer, there are plenty of others. You can make of your career in nursing whatever you want it to be.

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