New nurses wanted. - page 5

by GrnTea

I have just read a post in a Nursing Specialties forum on Staff Development that makes reference to the need to recognize and nurture new nurses because the nursing-eat-their-young attitude is so widespread. I went to respond to... Read More


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    wow. icu, ld, er ..... my dream job was to be a pop star!
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    Without the past, there is NO future...

    I honestly can say, that the pearls of wisdom that I have reviewed from the spice rack members of nursing produced such a treasure box of knowledge. One of my (many) mantras I have adopted "I hope to see the people on my team be here as long as I plan to be."

    Nursing, I have learned that most nurses have a HAND OUT to help us all evolve our nursing practice.

    I never expected nursing to hold my hand, kiss my (emotional) "boo boos", etc...I can handle them myself.

    Life is unfair, unexpected, as well as outrageous, downright hilarious, as well as a blessing, and everything in between.

    If anything, NURSING has helped me be able to better deal with life in general.

    Thank You GrnTea, as well as the countless others who provide their wisdom. I am happy to walk in your Danskos for the next 30 years.
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    “One of the big struggles companies have is with people who are not playing well in the sandbox,” says Jim Lanzalotto, vice president of strategy and marketing for Yoh, an IT talent and outsourcing services firm. “And it’s more pervasive when we talk about the situation we have between the generations.”
    Relations among the generations seem to be at a low point. Gen Y (defined as people born after 1982) thinks Gen X (spawned between 1961 and 1981) is a bunch of whiners. Gen X sees Gen Y as arrogant and entitled. And everyone thinks the Baby Boomers (1943 to 1960) are self-absorbed workaholics.

    None of this generational trash-talking surprises Linda Gravett and Robin Throckmorton, authors of Bridging the Generation Gap, which advises managers on how to minimize conflicts and miscommunication among the different age groups in order to get everyone working together.
    “We had a sense that there was tension,” says Gravett, a human resources consultant. “This was confirmed in our research. We found there was a lot of generational tension around the use of technology and work ethics.”
    Working Hard or Hardly Working?

    Gravett says their research showed that 68 percent of Baby Boomers feel “younger people” do not have as strong a work ethic as they do and that makes doing their own work harder. Thirty-two percent of Gen X-ers believe the “younger generation” lacks a good work ethic and that this is a problem. And 13 percent of Gen Y-ers say the difference in work ethics across the generations causes friction. They believe they have a good work ethic for which they’re not given credit." Gen Y, Gen X and the Baby Boomers: Workplace Generation Wars - CIO.com You can find the rest of this article at that link.

    I think everyone should stop bashing each other. I am 26, I am a new nurse, I found a job on a med/surg floor, and it is not my dream job. Who cares if my generation is getting a higher education faster? Why did you not go for a higher degree earlier in your own life? We all have choices and I think everyone should stop bashing each other for them. I do not think anything is wrong with my work ethic. I was raised in poverty, one winter in CT my family had no furnace, no running water, no electricity for 3 months because we had no money to pay the bills, and no money to fix the furnace, so we had to boil water for baths on a kerosene heater. So yes I am a highly motivated individual who always got As in every class I took and you can bet I will be getting a higher degree after I put my year of nursing in. Someone isnt any less of a nurse just because they have career goals and aspirations and want to leave medsurg after 1 year, unfortunately thats where they hire new nurses more often....because many RNs do not seem to like it much and stay there long anyways..there are exceptions. Stop worrying about everyone else and worry about yourself and quit sounding so bitter about the next generation. I do not feel entitled. I feel that I have earned everything that I worked hard to earn. And the older nurses think that since they are closer to being in the bed than at the bedside makes them a more compassionate nurse? Ive been in and out of the hospital since I was 18, which is the main reason I decided to become a nurse, and I feel that my own experience helps me to be compassionate. My point is that you do not know someone else's perspective,upbringing,experiences, motivation and we all should stop judging each other as "not good enough nurses" and analyze your own lives.
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    Quote from anotherone
    well i work with many new grads . old and young ones . (20s to 50s). the last batch of all ages expects soooo much hand holding and only easy assignments. getting 2 admissions is bullying and crying to manager. makes me sick. everyone routinely takes 2-3 admissions. cant handle it, then quit. i have had it with getting dumped on because of the cry babies. fine , if i must pick up all the trainwrecks and admits i should be paid more than a dollar than the new grads!!!!!if you nicely explain or try to teach something then it is whining about "treating them like idiots". i have saved so many pts from poor assessment and prioritization skills only to get ******* at for not doing more of their work or telling them about it. if someone told me , " hey this pts hgb is 7.2 at 1800 draw, in the morning it was 8.7,maybe you should let the md know" i wouldn't go crying to management about that . i would be thankful but embarassed that someone else caught it . ( when in charge or awaiting report). everyone is a winner and gets a ribbon!!!!!!!
    I'm sure there are some new grads working with experienced nurses who would just as easily expect to dump every unfavorable or challenging assignment onto the new nurse in the name of "gaining experience," regardless of whether or not it is appropriate and then when the new nurse's trial by fire proves more for him/her to handle getting in the boss's ear about the new nurse not being a "team player." How can anyone be surprised when a new nurse who is set up for failure.....fails?
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    THe article is interesting but being a new nurse or how ever you want to term it..i have expereinced the dismay, negative attitude, judgemental and overly critical seasoned nurses. I have seen first had, have experienced and have even made it a point to speak my mind when this behaviour happens. Obviously it is not every where and every floor but there are seasoned nurses and I am not necessarily speaking of nurses who have been 10+ years; i have seen it experienced it from nurses who have only been on the job 1+ year..
    It is disgusting cause no one no matter what stage of your career deserves to be treated with such disgust..
    Seasoned nurses often forget what it is to be a new nurse and only knowing how the school instructed you whcih is usally outdated.
    I refused to be belittled by a nurse no matter how seasoned they are. I am here to elarn from you, take constructive criticism and yes i will make mistakes, and will be slower and will hold the progress up and at times i do understand you asking em to step aside cause there is a time crunch but i refuse to accept the negative and ****** attitude.
    I exepreinced this as a new nurses as well as when i was doing my clinical rotations at the hospital...I had several seasonced nurses during my clinical rotaiton who simply told me they do not have time for me and asked me to simply sit at the nurses station cause they were tired of training..but in front of there supervisor or nurses manager their who demeanor changes and as soon as they exit they revert back to the disguisting individual they are.
    I know this happens every where and every industry to a point it just seems more prevalent in the nursing industry.
    So before everyone chimes in on how this is just an urban legend it is not..those nurses that behave this way know who they are.
    I personally had to call a seasoned nurse out not during work hours but after a shift and we are walking to the car i have stopped the nruse and in the most polite way have expressed my dismay and some apologize and some have simply told me this is not a career for the weak. and my response has been if you are going to dish out negativity and expect me because i am a new nurse to take it as a rite of passage you have mistaken me for an 18 year old..I am 40 years old and no one will speak to me in that demaenor with out conseqences..and the response has been what are you gonna do run and snitch on me and my response is ohh no snitches end up in ditches but it would be a shame for you care to have a flat for the next 3 months of my training..with a nice bright smile..lol..
    i know not nice or tastefull but that surely made the nurse think and redirect her negative energy to more positive criticism..lol

    ACY
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    Quote from metal_m0nk
    I'm sure there are some new grads working with experienced nurses who would just as easily expect to dump every unfavorable or challenging assignment onto the new nurse in the name of "gaining experience," regardless of whether or not it is appropriate and then when the new nurse's trial by fire proves more for him/her to handle getting in the boss's ear about the new nurse not being a "team player." How can anyone be surprised when a new nurse who is set up for failure.....fails?
    The trainwrecks are everywhere. and we have many new grads. they are split up. i dealt with it fine as have others. if i am to get them all now and still be expected to be at newer nurses beck and call i should be paid more. cant do your job then quit. they dont give the new attendings only easy pts...... you are a nurse , done with orientation, you get the same type of assignments as everyone else or should. we dont dump all the trainwrecks on the new grads or float nurses or any other paranoid victim memtality group. i can see that being the case for some, but on our floor you get what you get.
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    Quote from Cyoung07
    THe article is interesting but being a new nurse or how ever you want to term it..i have expereinced the dismay, negative attitude, judgemental and overly critical seasoned nurses. I have seen first had, have experienced and have even made it a point to speak my mind when this behaviour happens. Obviously it is not every where and every floor but there are seasoned nurses and I am not necessarily speaking of nurses who have been 10+ years; i have seen it experienced it from nurses who have only been on the job 1+ year..It is disgusting cause no one no matter what stage of your career deserves to be treated with such disgust..Seasoned nurses often forget what it is to be a new nurse and only knowing how the school instructed you whcih is usally outdated. I refused to be belittled by a nurse no matter how seasoned they are. I am here to elarn from you, take constructive criticism and yes i will make mistakes, and will be slower and will hold the progress up and at times i do understand you asking em to step aside cause there is a time crunch but i refuse to accept the negative and ****** attitude. I experienced this as a new nurses as well as when i was doing my clinical rotations at the hospital...I had several seasoned nurses during my clinical rotation who simply told me they do not have time for me and asked me to simply sit at the nurses station cause they were tired of training..but in front of there supervisor or nurses manager their who demeanor changes and as soon as they exit they revert back to the disguising individual they are. I know this happens every where and every industry to a point it just seems more prevalent in the nursing industry. So before everyone chimes in on how this is just an urban legend it is not..those nurses that behave this way know who they are. I personally had to call a seasoned nurse out not during work hours but after a shift and we are walking to the car i have stopped the nurse and in the most polite way have expressed my dismay and some apologize and some have simply told me this is not a career for the weak. and my response has been if you are going to dish out negativity and expect me because i am a new nurse to take it as a rite of passage you have mistaken me for an 18 year old..I am 40 years old and no one will speak to me in that demeanor with out consequences..and the response has been what are you gonna do run and snitch on me and my response is ohh no snitches end up in ditches but it would be a shame for you care to have a flat for the next 3 months of my training..with a nice bright smile..lol..i know not nice or tasteful but that surely made the nurse think and redirect her negative energy to more positive criticism..lolACY
    say that to me and i will snitch to hr , management and security . maybe more. everyone else. a perceived ******* attitude is just that . threats will be taken more seriously. i wouldn't even go near you or talk to you if you made these remarks to me. i always help and answer questions if i can and am neutral about it so i seem to get all the questions and pleas for help. ii work in a teaching hospital it is so easy to just page the dr and ask him/her or call pharmacy or look up policies but rarely do some do this .
    Last edit by Esme12 on Feb 16, '13 : Reason: TOS/profanity/use of letters and symbols
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    A number of these comments support my basic thesis, however unintentionally. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
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    Quote from Cyoung07
    The article is interesting but being a new nurse or how ever you want to term it..i have experienced the dismay, negative attitude, judgmental and overly critical seasoned nurses. I have seen first had, have experienced and have even made it a point to speak my mind when this behavior happens.

    Obviously it is not every where and every floor but there are seasoned nurses and I am not necessarily speaking of nurses who have been 10+ years; i have seen it experienced it from nurses who have only been on the job 1+ year. It is disgusting cause no one no matter what stage of your career deserves to be treated with such disgust.

    Seasoned nurses often forget what it is to be a new nurse and only knowing how the school instructed you which is usually outdated. I refused to be belittled by a nurse no matter how seasoned they are. I am here to learn from you, take constructive criticism and yes i will make mistakes, and will be slower and will hold the progress up and at times i do understand you asking em to step aside cause there is a time crunch but i refuse to accept the negative and ****** attitude.

    I experienced this as a new nurses as well as when i was doing my clinical rotations at the hospital...I had several seasoned nurses during my clinical rotation who simply told me they do not have time for me and asked me to simply sit at the nurses station cause they were tired of training..but in front of there supervisor or nurses manager their who demeanor changes and as soon as they exit they revert back to the disgusting individual they are. I know this happens every where and every industry to a point it just seems more prevalent in the nursing industry.

    So before everyone chimes in on how this is just an urban legend it is not..those nurses that behave this way know who they are. I personally had to call a seasoned nurse out not during work hours but after a shift and we are walking to the car i have stopped the nurse and in the most polite way have expressed my dismay and some apologize and some have simply told me this is not a career for the weak. and my response has been if you are going to dish out negativity and expect me because i am a new nurse to take it as a rite of passage you have mistaken me for an 18 year old.

    I am 40 years old and no one will speak to me in that demeanor with out consequences..and the response has been what are you gonna do run and snitch on me and my response is ohh no snitches end up in ditches but it would be a shame for you care to have a flat for the next 3 months of my training..with a nice bright smile..lol..

    i know not nice or tasteful but that surely made the nurse think and redirect her negative energy to more positive criticism..lol

    ACY
    While I agree that there are unprofessional nurses out there...it is not the majority. It is not urban legend that there are unprofessional nurses out there and that they should be help accountable. I have NEVER felt it necessary to respond to these people for they are beneath me. They must feel so very bad and insecure about themselves that they have to make others feel bad and put them down to make themselves feel better. I feel sorry for them.

    You might not like what I am am going to say.....but as a 40 year old it might not be the best, nor professional, way to respond to conflict by threatening to cut their tires...."snitches end up in ditches" might not be the best means of handling the situation and communicating your needs......and it just might get you in some very hot water....you might be walking to the car but you are on hospital grounds. Hospitals have NO sense of humor for this kind of communication.

    I know you are just starting out in the field...and you might be in a very negative/hostile environment.....but remember that a majority of nurses are NOT those individuals. Be the better "man".....walk away....don't give them the satisfaction that they got under your skin....it's that rush that they are looking for anyhow.

    I wish you the best.
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    In this day and age, threatening people as in "snitches end up in ditches" and "you can have a flat tire for three months" will land you in jail in my state. And...that will effectively end your clinical experience too.
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