Male Contraception??? - page 3

What a heavenly idea, don't you think? How many men reading this would take a shot or pill as a birth control method since it is OBVIOUS that the condom isn't being utilized to control "unwanted... Read More

  1. by   Furball
    You people shouldn't be having sex at all unless it's for procreation...you evil, devil disciple, horned vipers!
  2. by   debyan
    Furball, don't you mean Horny vipers? deb
  3. by   ERNurse752
    Originally posted by Furball
    You people shouldn't be having sex at all unless it's for procreation...you evil, devil disciple, horned vipers!

    Sinners!!!!!!!!!! :chuckle :roll
  4. by   SmilingBluEyes
    I meant NO male bashing here. IF anything I said was contrived as such, let please clarify. I believe couples need to be careful to prevent STD spread AT LEAST as much as pregnancy. No, personally, I would not rely on a man to do this FOR me. But I am in a monogamous relationship 16 years running now. STD's are not a problem for us that I know of. However......

    I know monogamy is NOT the reality of SO MANY YOUNG sexually-active couples. Pregnancy prevention is only *part* of the responsiblity of a sexually-active couple. I just worry in our "pill-happy" society (USA), this would be seen as yet another "silver bullet" and even open up minds to MORE carelessness down the road. NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH MEN BEING irresponsible or responsible. IT TAKES TWO.

    Anyhow, I hope I am understood; no male bashing going on here.
  5. by   Spidey's mom
    Originally posted by 3rdShiftGuy
    I think it would work well in a loving stable relationship.

    But I'm with Deb. If I were female and active and not in a trusting relationship I would look after myself.
    Tweety . . I'm with Deb too . . .but something stood out when I read the above. I thought "Why would you want to share a sexual relationship without a "trusting relationship"?

    I was reading a teen advice column in the paper this morning where a girl wrote in saying she and her boyfriend are sexually intimate and he wants her to spend the night at his house but she is afraid because she hasn't told him SHE WEAR GREEN COLORED CONTACTS. Yikes . . you can share body fluids but are afraid to tell someone you wear colored contacts?

    I think that is what gets to me . . . you share the most intimate thing two people can share with someone you do not trust for birth control? That is at least emotional suicide.

    steph
    Last edit by Spidey's mom on Jul 31, '03
  6. by   SmilingBluEyes
    Intimacy is definately defined differently by different people, Stevie. This is why I think yet another "PILL" is a potential disaster. It does NOTHING to address the underlying issues of sexuality and the psyche as well as disease spread.
  7. by   Spidey's mom
    Originally posted by SmilingBluEyes
    Intimacy is definately defined differently by different people, Stevie. This is why I think yet another "PILL" is a potential disaster. It does NOTHING to address the underlying issues of sexuality and the psyche as well as disease spread.
    Deb . . I agree with you that the woman should be responsible for herself and that this male contraceptive pill issue doesn't address all the things you have brought up. Tweety's comment just struck me funny . . . . . we do need to at least teach our children to respect themselves enough not to enter into a sexual relationship with someone you do not really know or trust. That is aside from the contraceptive issue. I'd still say protect yourself . . .even in a trusting relationship. It is just smart.

    But for goodness sakes if you cannot trust someone with the news that you wear colored contacts, why in the world are you having sex with him?

    steph
  8. by   caroladybelle
    Excuse me if what I related about previous relationships and experiences, seems male bashing - but what I related was the truth.

    If women don't use contraception appropriately with as long as that has been on the market, and the fact that most of us see an MD to check the equipment and instruct us in contraceptive use, what luck are we going to have with men which (as confirmed by national statistics) rarely see an MD or even have a personal MD.

    When I see medical statistics on men that demonstrate that they are attempting to live same healthy lives and have regular reproductive checkups to the SAME EXTENT that women do, then you can call it "male bashing". But until that day, consider it merited criticism.

    And quite frankly, I trust G-d, it's everyone else (including me!) that I am iffy on.

    Especially when sex enters the picture
  9. by   Tilleycs
    Excuse me if what I related about previous relationships and experiences, seems male bashing - but what I related was the truth.
    No, what you related was your opinion - the "truth" as seen by you based on experience.
    If women don't use contraception appropriately with as long as that has been on the market, and the fact that most of us see an MD to check the equipment and instruct us in contraceptive use, what luck are we going to have with men which (as confirmed by national statistics) rarely see an MD or even have a personal MD.
    I get my yearly physical, and I go when I start developing my yearly sinus infection(s). Other than that, thankfully, I'm healthy 99% of the time. I don't need to go to the doctor for anything. Would you rather us go to the doctor more so we statistically catch up? Would that make you feel better? How much sense would that make?
    When I see medical statistics on men that demonstrate that they are attempting to live same healthy lives and have regular reproductive checkups to the SAME EXTENT that women do, then you can call it "male bashing". But until that day, consider it merited criticism.
    Fair enough, but it's a shame that you generalize things as being true of EVERY man on the planet just because of statistics you've seen in a newspaper or on the net. Easy to do, but shallow at the same time.

    And how would you respond if the guys here started listing all the "merited criticisms" there are (or have seen national statistics on) for women? I don't do stuff like that, because I don't like it done to me. And what purpose would it serve? What good would come of it?
  10. by   caroladybelle
    Originally posted by caroladybelle
    Yes, I think that it is lovely idea for men to have other contraceptive options.

    But would I trust a man's word that he was using it appropriately and reliably..............that I would have my doubts.

    I have had enough arguments over condom use (if they knew that I was using something, they didn't want to use a condom - I believe in both partners being protected). I have dated plenty of book smart men that couldn't balance a checkbook, couldn't sort clothes for the laundry (denim blue underwear and shrunken sweaters), and couldn't figure that metal does not go in the microwave. I had to make sure that the epileptic took his meds - he kept "forgetting".
    Uhh, would you like me to mail you the denim blue panties, bras????

    And would you like me to mail you the shrunken sweaters as proof of the "truth" of my statements.

    And would you care for me to dig up the bank statements, and the lab results for dilantin levels, it might take some time but I am sure that probably do that, for you.

    There is "truth" in those - overdrawn is overdrawn, etc.

    And as I referred specifically to men that I dated, I did not "generalize" to all men.

    But I also don't feel like starting a P^&*ing (urination) contest with you. Because If you are male, you probably have a tad better aim than I .

    But then I am generalizing all men as having better urination aim than women. And that would be wrong.

    And I, too, am...darned..sick of people starting (urination) contests over issues....instead of discussing them.
  11. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    Originally posted by Tilleycs
    And I like to read threads where there aren't any...

    Good luck
  12. by   NICU_Nurse
    I just want to throw something else in here, since we're discussing trusting, monogamous relationships and STD's. I used to work as an STD/HIV counselor in a community clinic here, and you would DIE from shock if you only knew how many people, MEN AND WOMEN alike, came in and tested positive for one or more of a wide variety of diseases (including things that can't be cured, like HIV, Herpes, and HPV/Genital Warts) and were SURPRISED because, as far as *they* knew, they WERE in a trusting, monogamous relationship. Even MARRIAGE is not a guarantee that your spouse will not cheat on you, and these people found out the hard way. Any relationship that involves sexual intimacy is a risk, even if it is sealed by god and federal law. Each partner should take responsibility for STD protection, period.

    Female condoms are saggy and less than comfortable, not to mention highly unattractive. Male condoms cut sensitivity. Barrier protection is essential in every relationship, IMO, unless you are willing to risk not only a baby but an uncomfortable, possibly deadly disease to boot. Would you trade sexual comfort for an open wound on your labia? Or take increased penile sensitivity in exchange for a cauliflower-sized fleshy growth on your shaft? Not interested in condoms for HIV protection? I'd say you'd have plenty of time to mull it over once you're infected, but we all know that's not true.

    Women and men should take responsibility for all the consequences related to intimate sexual activity. I'm absolutely in favor of male hormonal birth control as an ADJUNCT to additional birth control/disease prevention methods.
  13. by   SmilingBluEyes
    Works for me, Kristi!!! ^5.

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