Experienced Nurses Only - page 9

No replies from students please! Nurses, are you frustrated with trying to read theses forums only to find that most of the posts are from students or nurse wanna-be's looking for medical advice?... Read More

  1. by   gauge14iv
    Quote from mjlrn97
    But respect goes both ways..........and it is time for nurses of all ages and experience levels to acknowledge what each one of us brings to the profession, instead of worrying about what someone may be trying to take away from us. We are all adults here. Let us act that way, and help our future nurses grow!
    EXACTLY!!

    There really are humans on the other end of the keyboards!
    Last edit by gauge14iv on Oct 7, '06
  2. by   Mulan
    Quote from ArmyMSN
    Current irritation about this forum is that nursing students are posting request for information to help with their care plans/projects on this forum. What happened to the day when you had to do your own research for nursing papers?
    :yeahthat:
  3. by   TazziRN
    Quote from mjlrn97
    Can't we all just get along?

    I wonder sometimes what people who visit allnurses every now and then, without becoming members themselves, must think about us when we can't even agree on what constitutes a "nurse"! There is nothing wrong with lively debate, nothing wrong even with disagreement; but there is something VERY wrong with attempting to exclude certain groups from our discussions.
    I don't want to exclude them, not at all. I just want the judgemental ones to think long enough to realize that just because we don't fit their mental picture of the ideal nurse, that doesn't mean we are not good nurses who love what we do. And not all students are like this, the majority either don't feel this way or just don't voice it in threads where we are venting. The few who jump in with guns a-blazin', though.........
  4. by   smk1
    see, i personally just ignore posts that have to do with NCLEX because I am not that interested in it yet (1.5 years away) and it has nothing to do with my situation yet. I probably will be that way about 6 months after I have taken it and hopefully passed and the novelty has worn off. As far as the students and careplans/homework thing those can easilly be ignored too, though I have found that with a lot of those posts, a lot of research and thought has already been put into it and they are just asking for feedback. nothing wrong with that, if you want to give it then do so, if not move on. That is the beauty of this forum. There is always so much going on you can find multiple threads that are interesting. I too dislike it when someone clearly wants to vent about XYZ and then are jumped on...but that isn't reserved for the experienced only. There are lots of times when a student or CNA vents about something and a nurse jumps in to say "well you are never going to make it as a nurse because______" or " I hope you are never my nurse because_____". Just the nature of the internet, I've probably even done it every once in awhile. My point is that all groups on here are going to annoy one another at some point be it LPN vs RN, NP vs RN, CNA vs MA, MA vs everybody with nurse as a part of their title, democrat vs republican , rural vs. city, distance learners vs. on campus learners, BSN vs ADN etc... we can't have a forum that is exclusive to all of those groups. It would take away from the overall place that allnurses is.
  5. by   Tweety
    I sometimes have a lot of typos and poor grammar. I also understand there are people from other countries asking questions.

    I never tire of students asking questions, I never tire of the NCLEX questions, and I never tire of us old battle axe nurses venting the same things over and over again.

    I've asked a few questions myself and am glad they were answered rather than "you're an experienced nurse, don't you know what to do with a hyponatremic patient? Don't you know how to use the search function, don't you know how to use resources....and your grammar is dreadful". (Tongue in cheek)

    I confess to cringing when I read "nurses eat their young" or "the nurses in my clinicals are so mean".

    I understand why you would want an experienced nurses forum, but as you said it would be hard to keep exclusive (look at the number of women who post to the Male nurses forum).
  6. by   PANurseRN1
    I would point out, though, that there is a forum specifically dedicated for first-year nurses, as well as one for students. The description for each of these forums is that they are dedicated to the issues unique to that topic. True, anyone can post on it, but they are places for support specific to students/new nurses. Again, I'm not trying to be difficult, but to me that is a bit of disparity.

    I guess I will be the Lone Ranger on this. Perhaps I have just had my fill of the "hating on experienced nurses" threads/posts. A recent post by Timothy that cross-referenced multiple mean-spirited threads about experienced nurses was a real eye-opener for me.

    And my offer still stands. If an experienced nurse needs someone to vent to and feel safe from recriminations, please PM me. I will gladly offer support.
  7. by   PANurseRN1
    Quote from Tweety
    I sometimes have a lot of typos and poor grammar. I also understand there are people from other countries asking questions.

    I never tire of students asking questions, I never tire of the NCLEX questions, and I never tire of us old battle axe nurses venting the same things over and over again.

    I've asked a few questions myself and am glad they were answered rather than "you're an experienced nurse, don't you know what to do with a hyponatremic patient? Don't you know how to use the search function, don't you know how to use resources....and your grammar is dreadful". (Tongue in cheek)

    I confess to cringing when I read "nurses eat their young" or "the nurses in my clinicals are so mean".

    I understand why you would want an experienced nurses forum, but as you said it would be hard to keep exclusive (look at the number of women who post to the Male nurses forum).
    There's a big difference between your example and the "I have a diabetic patient. Help me write my care plan in NANDA format."

    I don't post in the "Male Nurses" forum (except for one time when someone made a really inappropriate and sexist remark about female nurses). I figure it's for the guys.
  8. by   gauge14iv
    Quote from Tweety
    (look at the number of women who post to the Male nurses forum).
    OOOO!!!!! They don't check testosterone levels at the door??
  9. by   level1_traumaRN
    Wow...you shouldn't even be posting on this site!!! You were once a nursing student or a "nurse wanna be" as you say!!! I can't believe you would even start a thread like this. I was a NURSE WANNA BE just 6 months ago, now I am one! Wow...people these days.
  10. by   Ruby Vee
    Quote from anne74
    why do so many "experienced" nurses want to shut out the new generations of nurses? don't you feel some kind of obligation to help progress nursing?

    anyway, i totally understand the desire for an experienced nurses forum. experienced nurses have a different perspective. but perhaps you should nix the "exclusiveness" of it, and stop separating yourselves from the unworthy, less experienced students. that makes people lose a lot of respect for you.
    [font="comic sans ms"]ouch! i wonder if you meant to attack me?

    i don't think one forum out of the many for experienced nurses (rns and lpns) to vent without worrying about the put down comments of those who have clearly not been there constitutes shutting out new generations of nurses. there are, after all, plenty of forums for students, nclex, the first year, etc. it's not about "separating ourselves from the unworthy" but rather being able to vent without being chastised for being pushy, mean, nasty, eating our young, for feeling the way we do.
  11. by   Ruby Vee
    Quote from rn/writer
    newbies, students, wanna-bes (not meant offensively), please understand that no one, no matter how much she likes her job, is always positive. bad things happen. dysfunctional people cross your path. real life intrudes.

    i think one of the problems with experienced nurses venting is that aspiring nurses see it out of context and it can scare them. they don't know about the good times because we're not talking about that at the moment. other nurses who've been around awhile can fill in the blanks. they can often distinguish between someone who's having a temporary snit and someone who is headed down a dangerous path.

    when we're in dire straits, we have to take care of ourselves and sometimes that means we're don't have much left to take care of others. we need to direct our energy at solving problems and sorting out feeings and we don't want to feel like we have to hold everything in because some might not understand and be damaged by our candor.

    experienced nurses should remember that they were green and needy when they started out. they should help the newbies feel comfortable with asking questions and do any necessary correcting with respect.

    newbies and aspiring nurses should acknowledge that there is much they don't know about the real world of nursing and not assume that veteran nurses who have occasional struggles are bitter and burned out. let us be where we are and we'll try to do the same for you.
    [font="comic sans ms"]thank you so much for this post. it expressed everything i wanted to say but was unable to articulate. thank you!
  12. by   PANurseRN1
    Quote from ruby vee
    ouch! i wonder if you meant to attack me?

    i don't think one forum out of the many for experienced nurses (rns and lpns) to vent without worrying about the put down comments of those who have clearly not been there constitutes shutting out new generations of nurses. there are, after all, plenty of forums for students, nclex, the first year, etc. it's not about "separating ourselves from the unworthy" but rather being able to vent without being chastised for being pushy, mean, nasty, eating our young, for feeling the way we do.
    i think you expressed yourself quite well, ruby! and you are right about forums directed toward pre-nursing students, nursing students, new grads and first-year nurses. i also fail to see how one forum for experienced nurses is such an awful thing.
  13. by   LuvMyGamecocks
    I, for one, am particularly grateful for the "human" side of the nursing profession that this forum presents and would hate to lose that until I have a license.
    Last edit by LuvMyGamecocks on Oct 7, '06

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