Yes, Employer Can Require Covid Vaccine

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Apparently per the EEOC's guidelines employers (not just healthcare related) can mandate vaccination of workers. The exception is a "sincerely held religious belief" or a covered disability. Just found out this morning that a chain of for profit LTC/SNF's are rolling out a Covid vaccine mandate for all direct care staff or face indefinite unpaid administrative leave. I am a heavy supporter of vaccination and of the new COVID vaccine and in fact am due to get one in early January. But I am doing so of my own volition. My facility encouraged all workers to sign up for a vaccine and provided information sessions and it's been really effective at getting people to sign up. 

Even though I would disagree with someone's choice to not vaccinate, I don't believe they should be mandated at this point.

Yes, your employer can require you to get a COVID-19 vaccine, the EEOC says

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On 6/3/2021 at 11:05 PM, Tenebrae said:

I live in a country that IMO has a far superior bill of rights to the US

Some americans are soo bloody arrogant you seem to believe that the world outside of your own small corner functions with rocks and sticks and then scratch your heads and wonder why the rest of the world has such an issue with you. 

 

And yet, each year thousands of foreigners attempt to immigrate to this country, with thousands more coming illegally... 

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5 hours ago, InHisImage said:

And yet, each year thousands of foreigners attempt to immigrate to this country, with thousands more coming illegally... 

Not from Tenebrae's country they aren't.  

Trump's northern triangle foreign policy arguably  contributed to the flow of desperate people toward our borders.  

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2019/09/17/761266169/trump-froze-aid-to-guatemala-now-programs-are-shutting-down

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6 hours ago, InHisImage said:

And yet, each year thousands of foreigners attempt to immigrate to this country, with thousands more coming illegally... 

Thanks for proving my point. 

As strange as it may seem there are 194 other countries than the US. 

America is one of the last countries in the world I'd want to immigrate to. Collleages don't want to work in the US because they cant comprehend working in a system where healthcare is based on being able to pay rather than a basic human right

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11 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Not from Tenebrae's country they aren't.  

 

What country might that be?

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21 minutes ago, InHisImage said:

What country might that be?

Why are you asking me when Tenebrae is engaged in the discussion?

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7 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Why are you asking me when Tenebrae is engaged in the discussion?

Because it was in response to your comment.

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22 hours ago, Tenebrae said:

Thanks for proving my point. 

As strange as it may seem there are 194 other countries than the US. 

America is one of the last countries in the world I'd want to immigrate to. Collleages don't want to work in the US because they cant comprehend working in a system where healthcare is based on being able to pay rather than a basic human right

According to Gallup it's not even close more people express a desire to move to the United States than any other nation in the World (and the dates reflect when Trump was President).  https://news.gallup.com/poll/245255/750-million-worldwide-migrate.aspx  .  

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On 6/8/2021 at 12:32 AM, InHisImage said:

And yet, each year thousands of foreigners attempt to immigrate to this country, with thousands more coming illegally... 

 

On 6/8/2021 at 7:11 AM, Tenebrae said:

Thanks for proving my point. 

As strange as it may seem there are 194 other countries than the US. 

America is one of the last countries in the world I'd want to immigrate to. Collleages don't want to work in the US because they cant comprehend working in a system where healthcare is based on being able to pay rather than a basic human right

 

9 hours ago, myoglobin said:

According to Gallup it's not even close more people express a desire to move to the United States than any other nation in the World (and the dates reflect when Trump was President).  https://news.gallup.com/poll/245255/750-million-worldwide-migrate.aspx  .  

Thank you for this, it finally makes sense why you continue to post bad research and ignore everything that doesn't correspond to your world view.

You have either poor reading skills or poor comprehension skills or both.

You answered a question that was not asked (and has no place in this discussion). 

InHisImage stated thousands want to come to America. Tenebrae however only stated that they and their colleagues don't want to move to America.

So for completeness, can you tell us why you felt it necessary to bring immigration into a vaccination thread?

The countries where potential migrants say they would like to move -- if they could -- have generally been the same for the past 10 years. In fact, roughly 18 countries attract two-thirds of all potential migrants worldwide.

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On 6/9/2021 at 11:07 AM, GrumpyRN said:

 

 

Thank you for this, it finally makes sense why you continue to post bad research and ignore everything that doesn't correspond to your world view.

You have either poor reading skills or poor comprehension skills or both.

You answered a question that was not asked (and has no place in this discussion). 

InHisImage stated thousands want to come to America. Tenebrae however only stated that they and their colleagues don't want to move to America.

So for completeness, can you tell us why you felt it necessary to bring immigration into a vaccination thread?

The countries where potential migrants say they would like to move -- if they could -- have generally been the same for the past 10 years. In fact, roughly 18 countries attract two-thirds of all potential migrants worldwide.

Because this

Thanks for proving my point. 

As strange as it may seem there are 194 other countries than the US. 

America is one of the last countries in the world I'd want to immigrate to. Collleages don't want to work in the US because they cant comprehend working in a system where healthcare is based on being able to pay rather than a basic human right 

and other comments seemed to be a direct assault upon not only the greatest country that exists (in my opinion) but indeed the greatest nation ever to exist. One which has single handedly (along with doing some very bad things) done more to bring vaccines, stand against evil, and liberate human beings from abject poverty than any other nation in the history of civilization.  No doubt you may have a different perspective and this is one of the places in the world where such diverse opinions are welcome.  You can insult this nation, and it's people and we will still no doubt welcome you and send you millions, and billions in vaccines and other assistance.  You are welcome.

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On 6/8/2021 at 9:54 PM, myoglobin said:

According to Gallup it's not even close more people express a desire to move to the United States than any other nation in the World (and the dates reflect when Trump was President).  https://news.gallup.com/poll/245255/750-million-worldwide-migrate.aspx  .  

Of the six years this appears to include, at most one was under Trump.

The basis of the argument that Biden is responsible for a surge in desire to immigrate to the US is that he's not Trump, and that Trump's 'leadership' was successful at reducing the desire to immigrate the US.  ie, why would someone want to flee a country with a amoral authoritarian as the leader to go to another country with another amoral authoritarian as the leader.

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6 minutes ago, MunoRN said:

Of the six years this appears to include, at most one was under Trump.

The basis of the argument that Biden is responsible for a surge in desire to immigrate to the US is that he's not Trump, and that Trump's 'leadership' was successful at reducing the desire to immigrate the US.  ie, why would someone want to flee a country with a amoral authoritarian as the leader to go to another country with another amoral authoritarian as the leader.

We can quibble whether or not Trump was positive or negative for immigration and US reputation.  What we cannot argue with is that he is no longer President (although he could end up as House Speaker in 2021 if the Republicans retake the House) However, over the "broad" course of history more people have sought to come here than any nation on Earth.  Not only that virtually no other nation "welcomes" people who  move in to our borders even when they do so in a manner that violates the law to the degree that we do (again both good and bad points here). Not only that "we" (The United States) will be essentially taking private property (Vaccine patents from major pharm companies) and "giving" them to the world for free (again both good and bad points for doing this but it will be done all the same). There are plenty of reasons to both love and hate this nation, but I would encourage people to focus more on the ones to love it. 

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2 hours ago, myoglobin said:

We can quibble whether or not Trump was positive or negative for immigration and US reputation.  What we cannot argue with is that he is no longer President (although he could end up as House Speaker in 2022 if the Republicans retake the House) However, over the "broad" course of history more people have sought to come here than any nation on Earth.  Not only that virtually no other nation "welcomes" people who  move in to our borders even when they do so in a manner that violates the law to the degree that we do (again both good and bad points here). Not only that "we" (The United States) will be essentially taking private property (Vaccine patents from major pharm companies) and "giving" them to the world for free (again both good and bad points for doing this but it will be done all the same). There are plenty of reasons to both love and hate this nation, but I would encourage people to focus more on the ones to love it. 

 

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