Yes, Employer Can Require Covid Vaccine

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Apparently per the EEOC's guidelines employers (not just healthcare related) can mandate vaccination of workers. The exception is a "sincerely held religious belief" or a covered disability. Just found out this morning that a chain of for profit LTC/SNF's are rolling out a Covid vaccine mandate for all direct care staff or face indefinite unpaid administrative leave. I am a heavy supporter of vaccination and of the new COVID vaccine and in fact am due to get one in early January. But I am doing so of my own volition. My facility encouraged all workers to sign up for a vaccine and provided information sessions and it's been really effective at getting people to sign up. 

Even though I would disagree with someone's choice to not vaccinate, I don't believe they should be mandated at this point.

Yes, your employer can require you to get a COVID-19 vaccine, the EEOC says

1 hour ago, macawake said:

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That’s not the evidence-based approach. I can find news articles that say that Elvis is alive and that aliens live in Area 51.

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Are you saying that he isn't?

And they don't?

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53 minutes ago, brandy1017 said:

People have had clots, strokes, paralysis, thrombocytopenia, DIC and deaths.  That is true!

If you don't believe his explanation for the clot issues with the MRNA covid vaccines, what do you think is causing it?

No, that is not true.

The mRNA vaccines have not been found to cause strokes, paralysis or death, although there has been one case of thrombocytopenia likely related to the vaccine.

The non-mRNA vaccines carry a 0.00016% risk of blood clots which significantly decreases your overall risk of blood clots since a Covid-19 infection carries a 16.5 % risk, more than 80,000 times the risk of the vaccine.

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"Specializes in critical care"

Gah

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1 hour ago, MunoRN said:

No, that is not true.

The mRNA vaccines have not been found to cause strokes, paralysis or death, although there has been one case of thrombocytopenia likely related to the vaccine.

The non-mRNA vaccines carry a 0.00016% risk of blood clots which significantly decreases your overall risk of blood clots since a Covid-19 infection carries a 16.5 % risk, more than 80,000 times the risk of the vaccine.

There have been multiple cases of stroke, paralysis, death, etc in younger people shortly after they received either their first or second covid vaccine.  So you are automatically writing these people's serious adverse side effects off as not related to the vaccine.  All these are just coincidences in your opinion.  I  disagree as I believe they are related.

Also I found Dr Bhakdi's explanation as plausible.  You have given no "hypothesis" to explain these patient's adverse side effects.  In fact you have mocked him and me for bringing this up.

I leave fellow nurses to draw their own conclusions in this matter.

 

 

18 minutes ago, brandy1017 said:

There have been multiple cases of stroke, paralysis, death, etc in younger people shortly after they received either their first or second covid vaccine. ...

You've made some rather outlandish claims here.  Why don't you provide sources documenting them?

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36 minutes ago, chare said:

You've made some rather outlandish claims here.  Why don't you provide sources documenting them?

Outlandish claims!  Don't you watch the news!  There have been two women with paralysis from the neck down in the past month.  The clots from J&J were causing strokes and deaths.  The Florida Dr developed thrombocytopenia and died about a week later from a brain bleed as they were unable to get his platelets up.  I read an article that 37 people in the US were admitted to the hospital for the same problem.  This is exactly the same issue that rarely happens with the hepatitis B vaccine in infants that has lead to deaths as well!  There is no doubt this is related to the vaccine.  If you are unaware of this that is because there had been a blanket white out of this on national news until the pause of J & J.  The same issues were happening in Europe and they have been open about it and that lead to the halt of Astra Zeneca vaccines.

I will look for where you can read or see this and put this info up since you don't believe me and apparently are not willing or able to look this up yourself.  I have no reason to make this stuff up.

https://www.wsmv.com/news/woman-lies-paralyzed-in-nashville-hospital-says-it-happened-after-she-received-pfizer-vaccine/article_78f1b8fa-a4a0-11eb-af84-3311a4f153c0.html

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/blood-clotting-needs-to-be-watched-with-all-covid-vaccines-states-the-association-of-american-physicians-and-surgeons-aaps-301262360.html

https://www.wpxi.com/news/top-stories/bethel-park-woman-paralyzed-12-hours-after-getting-first-dose-pfizer-vaccine-doctors-searching-answers/ZSYTEX4H4FHKDFVSPGS3ILJZUI/

https://www.ocregister.com/2021/01/26/health-care-worker-dies-after-second-dose-of-covid-vaccine-investigations-underway/

 

14 minutes ago, brandy1017 said:

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I will look for where you can read or see this and put this info up since you don't believe me and apparently are not willing or able to look this up yourself.  I have no reason to make this stuff up.

I'm quite capable of researching this myself.  However, it's not my responsibility to source your claims.

17 minutes ago, brandy1017 said:

From your source:

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News4 does not have medical confirmation that this event was related to the Pfizer vaccine. Vanderbilt University Medical Center declined to comment.

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42 minutes ago, chare said:

I'm quite capable of researching this myself.  However, it's not my responsibility to source your claims.

From your source:

 

I didn't realize speaking on the blog is tantamount to doing a research paper with APA format, adding all your sources because of skeptics.

Of course they can't prove it 100%.  How can they?  Nor do they want to since it is better to pretend all these events are just coincidences.  I don't really care what you believe.  When young women have strokes and paralysis and no risk factors and it all happened shortly after the covid vaccine it certainly seems suspicious.  Are we just to turn our eyes and pretend it isn't happening because it can't be 100% proved!

Another woman Shawn Skelton has been having trouble walking with shaking movements and no obvious medical explanation after her covid shot.  They are writing her off as a conversion disorder.  Yet if you look at her movements you will see they are chorea-like Huntington's disease. 

I'm done uploading news articles and videos.  Look it up if you want, disregard it if you want.  But there may be other nurses that are interested and want to know about these cases.  The point is these people are not hitting the national news and you only find out about them thru local news.  Sad that there appears to be a cover up to push the agenda to get the vaccine.  Honestly I'm surprised they even paused the J&J vaccine, but I guess since the clots were very serious causing strokes that paralyze and even death, they decided to look into it.

 

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I'm adding one last article for the sake of any pregnant nurses who are deciding whether to get the vaccine.  They can read it and make their own decision.

https://www.visiontimes.com/2021/04/30/covid-19-report-breastfeeding-baby-dies-after-mother-receives-pfizer-vaccine.html

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1 hour ago, brandy1017 said:

Further beliefs from this group of geniuses

The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) is a conservative non-profit association founded in 1944.  The association has promoted a range of scientifically discredited hypotheses, including the belief that HIV does not cause AIDS, that being gay reduces life expectancy, that there is a link between abortion and breast cancer, and that there is a causal relationship between vaccines and autism.

 

And you missed this significant publication:

https://www.theonion.com/CDC-guidelines-for-fully-vaccinated-people-1846450754

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28 minutes ago, londonflo said:

Further beliefs from this group of geniuses

The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) is a conservative non-profit association founded in 1944.  The association has promoted a range of scientifically discredited hypotheses, including the belief that HIV does not cause AIDS, that being gay reduces life expectancy, that there is a link between abortion and breast cancer, and that there is a causal relationship between vaccines and autism.

 

And you missed this significant publication:

https://www.theonion.com/CDC-guidelines-for-fully-vaccinated-people-1846450754

I was not aware of these political issues, but this is not the only news article to talk about patients admitted with thrombocytopenia or the Fl Dr's death.

I see the vision times article brings up hundreds of patients that developed thrombocytopenia after among many other serious adverse reactions or coincidences, whichever you prefer to believe.

https://www.visiontimes.com/2021/04/30/covid-19-report-breastfeeding-baby-dies-after-mother-receives-pfizer-vaccine.html

I find it odd that several of you feel the need to mock my bringing up relevant serious adverse effects and deaths following the covid vaccine.  I don't see anything funny about it. 

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I see the vision times article brings up hundreds of patients that developed thrombocytopenia after among many other serious adverse reactions or coincidences, whichever you prefer to believe.

https://www.visiontimes.com/2021/04/30/covid-19-report-breastfeeding-baby-dies-after-mother-receives-pfizer-vaccine.html

I find it odd that several of you feel the need to mock my bringing up relevant serious adverse effects and deaths following the covid vaccine.  I don't see anything funny about it. 

@brandy1017

What is that source? Tell me about visiontimes.com and why you are using them to inform yourself? How in the world did you ever decide that they would be a good resource for you?

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