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Would this be considered cheating?

I took A&P2 last semester and now a "friend" is taking it this semester. I still had all my tests and hw that counted towards your grade. She works full-time and she also has a child and I could see her struggling. It's hard for her to study when she barely had time to study! She asked me if I could "lend" her one of my exams from last semester and I was really happy to give it to her. It gave her an idea of how the exam will be set up and I didn't want her to stress over the first exam. :) .. Because the teacher didn't really change the questions around, she did really good. She thanked me and I was really happy to see her overjoyed. :D Well.. She asked me for the 2nd exam .. Ok first of all....... I worked my butt studying for every single exam ... I feel like she's not even going to try anymore because all she is doing is studying the question/answer. I already helped her out with the first one so she wouldn't stress over an exam but now.. she's just asking for more! I don't want to give her my second exam. Don't get me wrong, I want her to do good but I want her to do it on her own! I don't want her to "suffer" all the hardwork and stress that comes along with it but doesn't everyone? In a way, she is cheating but that's my fault..... SO I'm cheating too!! :eek::eek:. My intention was to relieve her stress and anxiety.. What do you guys think of this?

PS.. She doesn't even ask for HELP.. I would be glad to help her. She just wants my exams and hw :down:

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It's not going to do her any good to get through the class this way. We have these pre-reqs for a reason, because we need to know this stuff for a career in nursing. Why dont you just tell her that you don't have the 2nd exam (you lost it or something) but offer to help her study, or watch her child while she has a study day

Yes, I would call it cheating. Also, she's really not learning anything. It's a set up for failure in the future. The "hard work and stress" is characteristic of the beast of nursing.

If faculty find out you and her are doing this, both of you will be expelled.

It's a bad idea because she isn't going to learn anything. A&P sucks but it's so important. For example, I'm taking pathophysiology right now and if I didn't have an understanding of A&P there is no way I would be doing well right now. Let her know you want to help her but giving her the exams will just hurt her more in the long run!

bottom line, don't give her the exams. If she doesn't learn A&P she wont do well later on. Also, I don't think you could get in trouble. If the professor hands back the exam they assume this kind of thing happens.

it's definitely cheating and you both could be in a lot of trouble. Perhaps you could tutor her instead to help her out?

I can't understand why people over the high school age need to be told that when you give someone the answers to a test or let them copy your homework that is cheating and wrong.:uhoh3:

We can not keep any of our tests for this reason. We get a 15 min. test review to get our test back and look them over (while all our stuff has to be put up like on test day) and then we have to hand them back in. If we are caught righting anything down during test review we are expelled.

I would just tell her that you misplaced them somewhere, but you would be more than happy to help her study for the exam. I think your heart was in the right place, but like me you can see how some people will push your kindness.

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I can't understand why people over the high school age need to be told that when you give someone the answers to a test or let them copy your homework that is cheating and wrong.:uhoh3:

I didn't mean to "cheat".. I was just trying to help a person out and I think I helped her enough :yawn: I feel like giving her the first exam was wrong too! And that I should have just helped her study instead. I can't take back what I did now; what's done is done. I'll take what I learned and move on.

At my university, profs often have previous years' exams on reserve at the library for people to go over when studying. These profs have a huge bank of questions and you will typically only see a few repeat questions, but it gives you a good idea of the kind of questions they ask, and what material to focus on. In a case like that I would have no trouble sharing a test or exam with someone a year behind me. Other profs don't allow us to keep our exams for the very reason that they don't want them shared with future students.

I kind of feel like if they are allowing you to keep tests/exams, they should be smart enough to switch up the questions. They have to expect that things like that will be shared, and I don't see that as cheating at all.

That said, if you feel uncomfortable at all, tell your friend you can't find that second exam ;)

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I took prereqs at one school where it was common practice for students to provide their notes, exams, and what-all, along with the text, when they sold their stuff to people coming behind. It was a well-known situation and even a comment or two was made by an instructor about the fact that they let students have their exams back, or not. But every school I have been at since, the instructors have not given back the tests for students to keep. The way I see it, you helped her once and it is up to you what you do about it now. She should have been grateful enough to at least discuss it with you. Not good for her to just assume that you are going to give her the means to an easy A.

Good grief. YES, it is cheating. I can't believe you even have a question about it.

BTW, I am in the middle of a divorce, I have 3 kids to raise (ages 8 and younger), and I DON'T cheat (and many of the other girls in my class do, and the majority of them don't have any responsibilities outside of school). I have gotten A's in all my classes except for one, in which I got a B. I'm also in an accelerated nursing program. Having a child and a job is not an excuse to cheat. She needs to apply herself, and you need to stop enabling her. Sorry to sound harsh, but I have one week left til I am done w/my LPN, and as of yesterday, there were still people in my class cheating on tests. So the cheating issue is a sore point w/me. (And yes, I and a couple of others in my class have gone to faculty about it, but they don't see it happening, so there's not much they can do).

It's nice of you to want to help someone, but the nature of school is that you should and do have to study to do well. If she can't cut it, then she needs to work harder. If you keep giving her your tests and hw, you are giving her a huge edge against others who are working their butts off, possibly, but not doing as well b/c they aren't cheating.

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