Working as a stripper AND a nurse

NYCRN16 · Feb 4, 2009

Stripping is legal and I don't think they can do anything about that, but if anyone recognizes you at the club you bet that they will tell everyone around the hospital and that could be embarrassing.

My main concern is that since illegal activities like drugs and prostitution are prevelant in many clubs, if there is any type of police investigation or bust, you may get caught up in that even if you had nothing to do with any of it. I would not want my name mentioned in any drug/prostitution case, that may effect you renewing or applying for a license.

eriksoln, BSN, RN · Feb 5, 2009

I'd like to add something of a little more personal nature also, not that admitting I planned on building a club isnt secret info. as it is already.

A little over a year ago, I was taking classes at the Community College. Needed to get Statistics and a comp. class done while I was looking at BSN programs. I got to know a couple guys in the class pretty well. One got engaged and I was invited to the bachelor party. A few of the guys who went to that party frequented the club we ended up going to. I went.....oh.....2 or 3 times after the party with them.

I was talking to a friend from nursing school who had moved away to live close to where she worked. I was telling her about this, joking about it. If you knew me personally......you'd know going to clubs just isnt me, and we had a laugh about it. Then she said something that made me pay attention, and it turned me off to the whole strip club lifestyle. I went one last time with the guys when the semester ended, and dont go anymore now.

She pointed out (she was a former dancer, was, oh, about 4 years removed from it when nursing school started) the the dancers all knew what days Welfare/SSI disability/unemployement checks came out. Why would they know this? The club got much bussier for a couple days after they were received. It was no mystery a lot of the customers on those days were chronic losers going nowhere. Some had kids they had nothing to do with, others were.........just poor husbands. They'd blow entire Welfare/SSI/unemployement checks in one night on tips at the club.

Now, that turned me off to the point that I couldnt enjoy myself at the club anymore. I'm not they type to think that way either. I'll spend $50 at the blackjack table.........I know there are people like I described above there as well, but it doesnt bother me, I'm not responsible for them. IDK, just, something about knowing that bothered me on a different level.

Again, I'm not against the clubs or the lifestyle that goes on in them. I just think one should be...........aware of it........before they get into it.

lilaznbabystar · Feb 5, 2009

hmm. it is hard to say. definitely is a personal choice. I wouldn't say that it is incorrect to hold 2 jobs. I do not think that there are rules with holding both jobs. again, it comes down to personal choice. what you do outside of work is not related to your main job.

diane227, LPN, RN · Feb 5, 2009

I am not sure how I feel about this. I guess it is acceptable as long as you are not involved in substance abuse activities. Do you feel that you can maintain and demonstrate a professional manner at work? Do you worry about one job affecting the other? Does your manager know that you strip on the side? The hospital certainly cannot terminate you for your activity outside of work unless that activity is affecting your job as a nurse.

I had an employee once that worked as a stripper. It was not a good atmosphere and he was not able to separate one job from the other. He overdosed on Tylenol and almost died.

Home Health Columnist / Guide · Feb 5, 2009

question asked is can a board of nursing take away a license for working as a stripper?

doen't matter what our personal opinnions are: if bon has regulations, that's standard you are held to for license registration and renewal.

answer is yes if bon has moral turpitude /professional conduct language in nurse practice act and legal charges brought + nurse convicted even if unrelated to nursing.

pa laws are very oldfashioned. moral turpitude definition:

the commonwealth court in moretti v.state board of pharmacy, 277 a.2d 516 (pa. cmwlth. 1971) has defined “moral turpitude” as “anything done knowingly contrary to justice, honesty or good morals.” the state board of nursing has adopted and applied this definition in cases before it where the licensee is charged with having been convicted,pleading guilty, entering a plea of nolo contendere,or being found guilty of a felony or a crime of moral turpitude.
license renewal: are you guilty of a crime of "moral turpitude ...

what is a lewd act?
a lewd act is generally defined as any conduct that is considered lewd or offensive and is performed in a public place. a public place can be a park, store, public restroom, bus, train, airplane, theater, beach, or can even be your own home if the act is performed in open view of the public.
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anyone who has been accused of performing a lewd or indecent act is facing very serious consequences. although penalties vary by state, being convicted of a lewd act or public sexual indecency charge may require the individual to serve jail time, register as a sex offender, and serve probation
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get a little carried away, and upon leaving club, be publically provacative in parking lot...neighors upset with this "nuisence" activity---police sweep, charges brought and convicted--- there goes the license.

although rare, in my 30 yrs in practice seen published revocation in pa pre internet days.

hosting a Mediaographic website

believe it or not – it happens. just this last year, a nurse in pennsylvania got her licensed revoked because she was hosting her own Mediaographic website. this most likely falls under “unprofessional conduct,” and it’s easy to chuckle at. but with today’s advancements in technology, and the widespread range of the internet, nurses who use their webcams to do a little work on a side may find themselves without a job.

uk: [color=#0000cc]nursing license revoked for hosting Media site - tech support ...

us: this nurse lost license for viewing Media site at work www.ksbn.org/legal/caseinfo/13-044983-041.pdf

jstor: the law and the nurse: license revocation, the board of ...

eriksoln, BSN, RN · Feb 5, 2009

question asked is can a board of nursing take away a license for working as a stripper?
doen't matter what our personal opinnions are: if bon has regulations, that's standard you are held to for license registration and renewal.
answer is yes if bon has moral turpitude /professional conduct language in nurse practice act and legal charges brought + nurse convicted even if unrealted to nursing.
pa laws are very oldfashioned. moral turpitude definition:
get a little carried away, and upon leaving club, be publically provacative in parking lot...neighors upset with this "nuisence" activity---police sweep, charges brought and convicted--- there goes the license.
although rare, in my 30 yrs in practice seen published revocation in pa pre internet days.
hosting a Mediaographic website
uk: [color=#0000cc]nursing license revoked for hosting Media site - tech support ...
us: this nurse lost license for viewing Media site at work www.ksbn.org/legal/caseinfo/13-044983-041.pdf
jstor: the law and the nurse: license revocation, the board of ...

thats exactly what i was trying to convey. i dont think you can participate in the club activities as a dancer and expect to keep a squeky clean record. at least thats what i was told when i was considering opening a club myself.

pagandeva2000, LPN · Feb 5, 2009

I would also check with the BON to see if there is a legal issue. Otherwise, while I would not do it myself, I am not a judgemental person. Do you thing.

L&DWannabe · Feb 5, 2009

When "morality" is left up to society- we will all be doomed. You don't have to believe in God, but the idea of having a set of what is "moral" and "immoral" is not a bad thing. Casual sex, drugs, violence, profanity, ... all are becoming more and more accepted in our society- in fact, more than accepted, but for lack of a better word, "cool." Just turn on the tv. Look at how "society" has changed in the past 50 years. Today, many things are still "illegal," but as long as "society" replaces God in deciding what is permissible and moral, in 50 more years, it is quite possible that more and more laws will let "morality" slide.

To the OP, how much are you worth? I mean seriously...what dollar amount will you sell yourself for? You are using your body to make money- that is something you can never take back. If you enjoyed it and felt "empowered," that's one thing. But SHAME? REGRET? How much is that worth to you? You are letting money control your life. Christians believe that the love of money is the root of all evil- simply because it drives almost everything immoral the world.

You are at a crossroad...You have before you a choice of a career that, while it won't make you rich, does offer a secure and decent future- and that is upheld with great esteem and honor,

and another career- where just one simple post mentioning it's name- has everyone hot and bothered. When stripping, you are not just dancing around a stage naked, you are dancing in front of husbands and fathers, most of which are there without the knowledge or approval of their wives.

One career saves lives, another career destroys lives. You can choose between them, or you can try to combine them...but ultimately- in the meantime, you will be destroying yourself in the process.

Atheos · Feb 5, 2009

uk: [color=#0000cc]nursing license revoked for hosting Media site - tech support ...

eh, this is america. no one cares abotu england. just kidding, but really though, different country, different rules.

us: this nurse lost license for viewing Media site at work www.ksbn.org/legal/caseinfo/13-044983-041.pdf

if you read the court findings, you will see that his license was not revoked for 'moral reasons' or even looking at Media. it was revoked for 'failing to take appropriate action or to follow policies and procedures in the practice situation designed to safguard each patient.'

what that means in english is, he violated company policy, which in every state is grounds for license revocation.

to give an example...

most states have no laws requiring gait belts in long term care facilities. they do, however, have laws that say one must follow policy and procedures of the facility at which they are employed. hence, if you transfer a patient without a gait belt (if the facility requires one) then you are subject to termination of your license.

this is a completely different story. one should not post laws or rulings in a manner that encourages 'interpretation' or misreading. laws and rulings are very specific and the only body in this country allowed to change the interpretation is the court system.

even the charge of 'gross immorality in the bottom link has to be defined. if it is a condition of the employer they must define what constitutes gross immorailty and legally they can include whatever they want 'that is considered immoral' in said community. if it is the bon they have to have a very specific set of actions that qualify. they will have this available if you ask and the bon can not include anything deemed as ok by the courts.

so, you can strip if you like, but check your handbook, your nurse practice act and any relevant laws/court rulings in your state.

leslie :-D · Feb 5, 2009

eh, this is america. no one cares abotu england. just kidding, but really though, different country, different rules.
even in america, it is different states, different rules.
not specific to countries.
if you read the court findings, you will see that his license was not revoked for 'moral reasons' or even looking at Media. it was revoked for 'failing to take appropriate action or to follow policies and procedures in the practice situation designed to safguard each patient.'
what that means in english is, he violated company policy, which in every state is grounds for license revocation.

it seems it was partly revoked for moral reasons.

otherwise, why would he not be able to work around children?

leslie

mamafeliz · Feb 5, 2009

Our culture is so screwed up.

With all due respect to the OP, I just caught her response to another post regarding breast feeding in the workplace. Her advise was to not disclose that she is breastfeeding to her employer as that information might work against her, and pump in a concealed room as her co workers might be uncomfortable.

I guess I thought that those mammary glands are evolutionarily about nourishing our offspring. I guess it is better to keep them concealed so we can better market their appearance in strip joints.

inland18mempire · Feb 5, 2009

A strip club is a place where men (and some women) go to pay to see breasts at work. Breastfeeding is a private matter and may make people uncomfortable in a setting where it is not expected. That's the point I was making.