Working as a stripper AND a nurse

LaneyB · Feb 3, 2009

The only study I found so far is that strippers make more money when they ovulate.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/index.php?term=pto-4435.html

Equinox_93 · Feb 3, 2009

An opinion piece, not a scientific study, but interesting none the less. Off to study for my exam for me!!!

I guess you aren't aware- it is impossible to scientifically study a matter of subjective opinion... :lol2: As empowerment is subjective (again) scientific study regarding its presence is like trying to study the subjective state of happiness. Other than studying biochemical responses to stimuli- what is there to study in something that is thusly subjective?

Multicollinearity, BSN, RN · Feb 3, 2009

I guess you aren't aware- it is impossible to scientifically study a matter of subjective opinion... As empowerment is subjective (again) scientific study regarding its presence is like trying to study the subjective state of happiness. Other than studying biochemical responses to stimuli- what is there to study in something that is thusly subjective?

There's no need to condescend. I am well aware of what social scientists can study (qualitative and quantitative) and the methodology. With that, I am out of this conversation.

BabyLady, BSN, RN · Feb 3, 2009

Interesting- in my experience I have found it the opposite- that BECAUSE they get naked in front in front of a crowd of strangers- most are far LESS willing to divulge personal information...
Empowerment is empowerment and it is not for you or anyone else to judge what someone else considers empowering. Empowerment is a very subjective thing that only the person who experiences it can judge.
Do some women go into it because "something went wrong" and they were molested, raped, etc.? Sure. But to claim that across the board as a given? I call bull----.

Here is a website that has a huge article on the correlation between Media and sexual abuse/rape.

Granted...I understand that this is an anti-Media website and a .com (instead of a .org) website, however, the article has detailed references for every statistic it lists.

A huge number of prostitutes start out as strippers...in fact, it's a huge problem in strip clubs because many girls want that extra money. Strip clubs and the Media industry go hand in hand.

If you have ever watched any documentary, read any detailed story...I personally have rarely seen one where the stripper/prostitute/Media start was not sexually violated in some way when they were younger.

leslie :-D · Feb 3, 2009

I guess you aren't aware- it is impossible to scientifically study a matter of subjective opinion...

psychological profiles are done all the time as scientific studies.

science is merely knowledge gained through a systematic study facts or principles.

so you're wrong, in that it's impossible.

but i won't laugh at you.

leslie

sissiesmama, ASN, RN · Feb 3, 2009

I am 100% for this and encourage all new female nurses to take it up for extra cash. I would even volunteer to watch and critique them so they can better their craft.

OMG!!! I needed to see that today! Thank you!

Anne, RNC :D:D

luv2yoga · Feb 4, 2009

The post has generated a lot of interesting conversation, but I have to say I think the OP was yanking our chain. I've known women who did this as their profession and they never referred to themselves as strippers. They always said dancers. I think it's a phony post.

leslie :-D · Feb 4, 2009

The post has generated a lot of interesting conversation, but I have to say I think the OP was yanking our chain. I've known women who did this as their profession and they never referred to themselves as strippers. They always said dancers. I think it's a phony post.

but they referred to themself as dancers, once they become strippers.

who's to say how they referred to themselves pre-'dancing' days.

but...

i will admit, it did cross my mind as to whether op was being earnest in asking.

leslie

mamafeliz · Feb 4, 2009

Some people are not ashamed or afraid of their sexuality/sensuality and not only feel comfortable expressing it- but feel comfortable doing so at points that might be uncomfortable for others. It's easy enough to avoid- just don't go to a club if it bothers you. Are strippers different than bellydancers? Why? A bit more clothing? OK- but most men would say that a bit more clothing is even more desireable because of the mystery... Bellydance is VERY sensual/sexual- just not as crass to our culture as is stripping. I just see it as more of an issue of cultural discomfort in a very prudish and sexually confused society... *shrugs*

Do you really feel stripping has anything to do with women dancers expressing their sexuality? Or is it getting relatively good pay for fulfilling sexual need of the viewer. I have never heard a woman involved in the sex industry describing her work as sexually fulfilling. In fact, everything I have been exposed to expresses quite the opposite. If we are talking about fulfilling female sexuality or tapping our sensuality, I believe we would be having a different discussion. The sex industry is almost exclusively male defined, and is based on male need. It is providing a service, in whatever form.

I am not afraid of my sexuality/sensuality and am not a prude. I am also not an object. Part of the beauty of truly tapping sensuality is expression which is deeper than the purely superficial. Everything I have seen posted reinforces the belief that women actually disconnect from their bodies and sexuality to "perform". That disconnect can only fracture the true essense of sensuality.

If strippers are so liberated and revered, why did the OP have her original question? Because there is shame and societal judgment involved in participating in the sex industry. Obviously, or she wouldn't have been worried in the first place. There are painful compromises and little honor found in this industry populated primarily with women who do not have options. And ultimately, repercussions for us all.

inland18mempire · Feb 4, 2009

Thanks for the replies... even though I'm not sure most were related to my original question. Well, I don't necessarily have shame in what I am doing. Like I said, the money just isn't even comparable AT ALL. It's like apples and oranges. I'm young now, but when I'm older I won't be able to do what I am doing, hence the nursing job. As far as being recognized by coworkers/patients - I am not working close to home. I also change my appearance dramatically with a lot of make-up and the club is not bright (in more ways than one, obviously). I work with several people with shady lifestyles that include drugs. I show up, do my job, and then leave and do not include myself in their lifestyle beyond dancing hours. Based on what you guys have to say, I think I'm running the risk of being fired but I'm still not sure if I could legally be fired for what I am doing. Am I proud of what I am doing? Of course not. Do I tell anyone that I know personally that I am doing this? Of course not. It's definitely not something to be proud of. But if it's paying the mortgage, a car payment, all of my bills, AND adding to a growing savings account, then why not? I looked at the BON and it's very vague, so I'm guessing that can be used/interpreted by the board and what they see fit, right? Anyway, I think I'm just venting more than anything.

zenman · Feb 4, 2009

I think I'm running the risk of being fired but I'm still not sure if I could legally be fired for what I am doing.

Some states are "fire at will" and don't need an excuse to let you go.

inland18mempire · Feb 4, 2009

They can fire me at will? Even if I'm union?