Why is it so easy to get an LPN or ADN so easily riled up?

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This is based on a particular thread I just read. You went to school for your degree,check; you do a good job as any as applies to any other profession, check; you paid good money for this degree, check.

So, why on GOD's good earth, do you let your feathers get so easily ruffled by some people's comments? I seek only to understand.

Specializes in L&D,surgery,med/surg,ER,alzheimers.
This is based on a particular thread I just read. You went to school for your degree,check; you do a good job as any as applies to any other profession, check; you paid good money for this degree, check.

So, why on GOD's good earth, do you let your feathers get so easily ruffled by some people's comments? I seek only to understand.

This would make more sense if it were directed to just one individual who was "easily ruffled" by people's comments. It falls short as a general question. IMO the OP seeks to rile up.

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Specializes in allergy and asthma, urgent care.

I am continually disappointed on this site that so many nurses (whatever flavor your degree/license may be) are so defensive and mean to each other. What is up with that?? I'm relatively new to nursing after many years in another field, so maybe I'm naive, but who really cares what letters are after your name? Go to work, do your job, keep your focus on the patients, and leave the high school pettiness behind. Please.

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I am laughing reading some of these comments! This is SO human nature, and reason for all the anger...the whole hierarchy thing! I mean, what's the argument? A nurse aide with a college degree saying she essentially has the same "education" or more as her supervisor, the LPN, would make one wonder. Just the same, regardless of the personal background of the LPN, the educational requirements are clearly less in time and scope for the LPN compared to the RN. The same with the RN compared to the MSN. ??? I don't get it. It's nothing personal, and pretty matter-of-fact.

I graduated from a community college with my LPN CERTIFICATE. We didn't take part in graduation because we weren't earning degrees. I personally want to earn my degree, and am currrently in my third semester of RN school. I'll earn my degree in nursing. It doesn't matter if I had my BS or MS in psych or biology or anything else, as I think it's a little misleading for someone who didn't pay dues to say they're a BS nurse who's just a LPN. I mean, congratulations on the degrees, or knowing 5 languages, or having travelled the world for example, but all that still won't make one have the credentials of such a structured degree as those in nursing specify.

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This is based on a particular thread I just read. You went to school for your degree,check; you do a good job as any as applies to any other profession, check; you paid good money for this degree, check.

So, why on GOD's good earth, do you let your feathers get so easily ruffled by some people's comments? I seek only to understand.

I don't know. Maybe because people continue to make blanket statements about how ADNs and LPNs feel, think and act like you just did? In you quest to "understand" you've become the example. I'm and ADN and I don't get upset or riled. I also don't partake in "x degree is better" discussions. This has come up on the "new posts" list several times today so I read it in spite of myself. I suspect your motive for posting this thread, since you worded it so inflammatorily.

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Specializes in Psych, EMS.

I kind of agree with the OP; I have noticed several diploma and ADN educated RNs get offended and defensive in unnecessary circumstances. A new ADN graduate started a thread voicing her frustration that so many jobs and internship mandated a BSN, or at least enrollment in a BSN bridge program, which really served as an obstacle in her job search. Well, several diploma and ADN grads got extremely defensive, stating a myriad of anecdotal cases where every single person in their daughter's diploma program has a job secured where no new BSN grads in their town have found one, etc..

But the truth remains, several hospitals do mandate BSNs, which does limit the options for diploma and ADN nurses. Especially in certain areas of the US. My current internship was only available for BSN grads.

So yeah I understand OP..I just avoid threads where you have to walk on eggshells...in fact, I probably could have used that judgment before clicking "reply" to this one! :lol2:

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Specializes in Med/Surg, LTC, Rehab, Hospice, Endocrine.

I really didn't want to add to the bruhaha....but. I can say, at least for my part, the only time I get upset when someone makes a blanket statement about LPN vs RN is when someone assumes that I cannot do anything and/or am not a 'real' nurse because I am not an RN. I am a nurse, I went to school, I can think. Yes, there are restrictions in what I can do. Just because I cannot do certain skills myself does not mean that I do not have the critical thinking skills to call issues to the attention of the RNs I work with.

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I think we all bring with us a walk in life that is as varied as we are. Lets just strive to be the best nurses for our patients, CNAs are valuable as well as LVNs. It is the expirience that you bring to the bedside that makes the differnace, couple that with a great attitude and your awesome. Lets not pick at each other. There is a place for us all, lets support the move for all of us to be the best we can, at wahtever we do:)

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Mainly I'm riled up because I wasted six minutes of my life reading this stupid thread. Where are my six minutes?! I want them back. There is no satisfactory explanation as to why I click to open such threads. There just isn't.

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Specializes in PICU/Pedi.

I haven't had to deal with this too much yet, because where I live, our ADN program is seen as better than the BSN program, (I know it's not like that everywhere, though). But I do get frustrated that my own mother thinks that I'm making a mistake in getting my ADN instead of the BSN, even though she doesn't know anything about it. All she knows is that my sister, the princess of the family, the responsible one that does everything right, went to school for her BSN. When I decided on nursing school, I looked into the two programs. My own sister said that the BSN wasn't really worth the extra time spent in school, in this area. All of the nurses I have ever talked to (and I mean ALOT of them) have told me that my school has the better skilled, hands-on training than the uni. They all concur they would prefer to work with a cc grad than a uni grad. As I have no desire to go into management, I decided that my priority is to get out of school ASAP, because I have young children to support. I don't feel like I want to wait the six years it would have taken me to get my BSN when I can get my RN in 4. That being said, I DO plan to get my BSN after I graduate. I think that way, I will get the best of both worlds - the skills AND the theory.

I'm not trying to say that anyone is better than the other. I just feel that for my particular circumstances, this is THE way to go. I don't look down on anybody, and frankly, I agree with the pp who said we need to leave this petty high school B.S. behind! There is room for EVERYBODY, and we all need to work as a team. It's about taking care of people who need us, not a p****** contest.

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This is based on a particular thread I just read. You went to school for your degree,check; you do a good job as any as applies to any other profession, check; you paid good money for this degree, check.

So, why on GOD's good earth, do you let your feathers get so easily ruffled by some people's comments? I seek only to understand.

You have not been specific on what you feel gets LPNs or ADNs ruffled, so, it would help to illustrate what you are speaking about. However, if a person or group of people try to make ANYONE devalued as a person or employee, making them feel that their contributions to life or the health care team is nothing, well, then, that is a different thing. I have not read further posts on this thread, but for now, I say that it would help to clear up what you are trying to convey.

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Specializes in Trauma ICU, Peds ICU.
No advantage in pay between BSN and ASN when working the floor.

Not necessarily. My hospital has different pay scales for ADN and BSN prepared nurses. I bring in about $2,300 more a year than my ADN counterparts.

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