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What do you think?

When I was in nursing school two years ago I posted on here with a different account and got a few good responses and a few funky ones that made me wonder. I am currently a little confused and worried about my career.

For starters nursing is not my first career. I am in my early 40s. In approximately 2 years I currently on my fifth job. I am also struggling with nurse practitioner school. Also, like some other people I got other things in my personal life outside of work I am struggling to overcome. So it happened like this.

Right out of nursing school I got a job in a small hospital back in my hometown. The hospital didn't have a good reputation at all. I was a new grad working in the ER. It was overwhelming and I felt disrespected by my coworkers, unwelcomed, and that the chain of command was disfunctional. One day at work my preceptor said some really-things to me and I finished the shift never went back. So I worked there approx 2 months.

I then got hired at a large hospital a level 2 trauma hospital as a cardiac telemetry nurse. It was very hectic and face paced. I noticed the CNAs were very manipulative and lazy.I was there for appox 6 months I thought moving to a large booming city would be a good career move and I got into NP school shortly aftermoving to the BIG city.

In the legitimately big city the unit I was on was non tele. The patients primarily needed/ wanted pain and nausea medicine and charting was much more micromanged.Things there didnt go as I had hoped but I stayed employed there for a year. I thought I left on good terms.

I went back to my previous hospital with the lazy CNAS. The unit had changed and I was 6-1 at nights with close to 30 beds and 2 CNAs and codes were a daily thing. I felt bullied and spoke up about it. The behavior didn't change. I was failing one of my classes in NP school and took a leave of absence. My personal life was also suffering and one night when census was low and my preceptor started in on me. I politely said I was going home. I had already texted my manager but got no response one hour previous to experiencing some negative attitude. I clocked out and went home. The wheels of justice turned for a few days. I had interviews at other places lined up and thought the hospital would side with me since lateral violence is a hot topic. NOPE. I was fired.

One week later I am on the pay clock for a home health private duty comapny learning a couple new skill sets and patient age group. The pay is better, but no PTO, and the commute is very long.

NP school cranks back up in Janurary and I got a few questions I would love some feedback from you guys on... MY old manager in the big city wont give me a recomendation I discovered...why I really don't know and my last manager fired me, so how do I go about getting back into hospital work if I wanted too? Home health might be a better fit for me... I don't know.

5 jobs in two year? Does that make me a bad hire? I kinda think yes, but nursing in hospitals is a GRIND.Everyone says be honest about your work HX, but I think it best to not mention anything about the hospital I was fired from. What do you guys think? I hope to hear from some of yall. This is rather troublesome since I have to find clinical placement soon for NP clinicals, and its the holidays.Hope some one can relate and exchange posts with me.

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OK, I put it in paragraphs hope I get some more input than I feel your pain.

  • Experts

Why do you mention lateral violence? What violence occurred?

OK, I put it in paragraphs hope I get some more input than I feel your pain.

With a space between them, it's still hard to follow.

  • Guides

When you left the hospital that night.. when you "politely told my supervisor that

I was going home?"... did you have a patient load of your own? Did you formally

report them off to another nurse? You didn't specify and I'm curious.

I don't have a lot of advice for you at this time. :( You are going to NP

school... what is the requirement as far as clinical? I don't understand.

  • Experts

Where do you currently work? If you are presently employed, my advice is to stay put and stick it out at your current workplace for a couple of years, even if it is not the shiny exalted acute care hospital position you desire.

Here is the honest truth...yes, you would be viewed as an enormously risky hire after having burned through five jobs in two years. HR directors and hiring managers can select candidates with more stable employment histories, as well as new grads who have yet to prove themselves.

My manager hired a nurse with a spotty work history a few months ago. Guess what? My manager recently informed this nurse that her services would no longer be needed. This nurse had 10+ years of experience, but her lengthiest amount of time with any single workplace was a whopping 11 months. Red flag...my manager should have known better.

As straightforward as this sounds, an unstable work history is often a warning sign of deeper issues with workplace personality, likeability, attitude, or performance. Keen managers know that old habits die hard, so they avoid taking a chance on the candidate whose employment history has red flags.

Good luck to you!

  • Experts

Staff note - edited and spaced.

  • Experts

I don't know where to begin. To start with, nursing requires an extremely high BS tolerance. Yours seems really low. Unfriendly coworkers? Lazy aides? Incompetent managers? Welcome to the club.

"Preceptor started in"? What exactly does that mean? Your preceptor probably believed he/she was giving you appropriate feedback. What was so bad about it that you felt the need to walk out in the middle of a shift? Was there nothing that you could use?

I get that you've had some bad jobs with rough working conditions. As a new grad, it can be really hard to sort out whether the job is that bad or you just haven't hit your nurse stride yet. But as we keep saying here on AN, the common denominator in all this is you.

You might have to do some soul-searching to decide if nursing really is for you. A lot of the crap you described is pretty much what the work entails. I've had some pretty stellar jobs, and some I had to run away from screaming. (But not literally.) But I always gave every job my all; I always sucked up feedback when I was new, and made it my mission to prove myself. I always left every job on good terms: gave and worked my notice (sometimes the longest 2 weeks of my life) and didn't give them attitude on my way out the door (but it was tempting).

I think if I was in your shoes now I would focus on career damage repair, if you even decide nursing is still for you. That means put grad school on hold. Find a job in a crappy place that's desperate for warm bodies. Suck it up with a smile on your face for at least a year. Re-evaluate at that point. Give proper notice before you quit and work it through. Or just decide that life is too short and nursing isn't worth the aggravation. Your call. Good luck.

  • Experts

ITA with Tricia. Your tolerance level appears to be very low for nursing in particular, and workplaces in general. You can't just clock out and go home every time someone says something you do not like. Don't know any other way to put it.

  • Experts

Yes, risky hire; there are plenty nurses with better track record looking for work out there. One cannot jump jobs like that, and hope something good will come out of it. Stick to the NP school if you have finances. Find some counseling at that school as well. Think BEFORE you do.

When I was in nursing school two years ago I posted on here with a different account

I'm pretty sure you are not suppose to make two accounts as the terms of using the site.... but onwards.

Right out of nursing school I got a job in a small hospital back in my hometown. The hospital didn't have a good reputation at all. I was a new grad working in the ER. It was overwhelming and I felt disrespected by my coworkers, unwelcomed, and that the chain of command was disfunctional. One day at work my preceptor said some really-things to me and I finished the shift never went back. So I worked there approx 2 months.

So you left your first job without notice and never showed up for your next shift. I think that the fact you say you accepted a job at someplace you believed to have a poor reputation and felt overwhelmed speaks volumes here. The ER can be a very hard and demanding place, These nurses have to know how to prioritize and run their A**es off to get through a busy shift. It can be hard on new nurses not to mistake the driven, competence of seasoned ER nurses with callous dislike. Not every emotion shows, it's can't.

But even if you found the staff and the unit not to your liking... to walk away and not come back says more about you then it does them.

I then got hired at a large hospital a level 2 trauma hospital as a cardiac telemetry nurse. It was very hectic and face paced. I noticed the CNAs were very manipulative and lazy.I was there for appox 6 months I thought moving to a large booming city would be a good career move and I got into NP school shortly aftermoving to the BIG city.

You do not say on what terms you left this job, did you give proper notice?

In the legitimately big city the unit I was on was non tele. The patients primarily needed/ wanted pain and nausea medicine and charting was much more micromanged. Things there didnt go as I had hoped but I stayed employed there for a year. I thought I left on good terms.

Again complaints about your employees/workplace.

But what didn't go as you had hoped?

What feed back did you get from your supervisors and co-workers over the year?

How much notice did you give?

I went back to my previous hospital with the lazy CNAS. The unit had changed and I was 6-1 at nights with close to 30 beds and 2 CNAs and codes were a daily thing. I felt bullied and spoke up about it. The behavior didn't change. I was failing one of my classes in NP school and took a leave of absence. My personal life was also suffering and one night when census was low and my preceptor started in on me. I politely said I was going home.

I hope you did not have your own patient load (even if it was just one patient) and just walk out, that would be considered abandonment and could land you in front of your BON.

I had already texted my manager but got no response one hour previous to experiencing some negative attitude. I clocked out and went home. The wheels of justice turned for a few days. I had interviews at other places lined up and thought the hospital would side with me since lateral violence is a hot topic. NOPE. I was fired.

It is not up to your manager to come in on her day off and respond to your "experiencing some negative attitude". That is something you should have emailed her about, requested to have a sit down with her and then finished your shift.

Lateral violence may be a hot topic, but it doesn't give you the right to come and go as you please, to leave co-workers in a lurch and to leave patients without a proper report off. (which you may not have done.)

Since you had already worked at this hospital once with unsatisfactory results, I would have thought that before taking employment there again you would have sought out your supervisor, spoken with him/her about any issues you had and worked on resolving them.

One week later I am on the pay clock for a home health private duty comapny learning a couple new skill sets and patient age group. The pay is better, but no PTO, and the commute is very long.

Every job has it's good and bad. This one does too. Home Health has advantages of flexibility that for some are worth the lack of PTO and comment. Only you can decide that.

MY old manager in the big city wont give me a recomendation I discovered...why I really don't know and my last manager fired me, so how do I go about getting back into hospital work if I wanted too?

You say the job "didn't go as hoped" in the big city, it might be reasonable to believe that your employer thought your work didn't go as hoped either. Consider yourself lucky that she told you she would not give you a reference. Then at least you will not use her and be surprised later that the reference was bad.

5 jobs in two year? Does that make me a bad hire? I kinda think yes, but nursing in hospitals is a GRIND. Everyone says be honest about your work HX, but I think it best to not mention anything about the hospital I was fired from. What do you guys think? I hope to hear from some of yall. This is rather troublesome since I have to find clinical placement soon for NP clinicals, and its the holidays.Hope some one can relate and exchange posts with me.

Honestly it does make you a bad hire.

You may believe my comments to be harsh or unkind... truly I am not meaning them that way, but they are bluntly honest. I have worked as a manger and as an administrator, and that is how I would look at your situation. Would it be considered judgmental... probably, but that's what we do when we hire, we make the best judgment call we can wth the information given.

I understand that things have been rough in your personal life, and I'm sorry and wish you the best of luck.

But employers can't let your personal life interfere with having a good working, team player that delivers outstanding care and is able to get along.

I don't think you'll just be able to leave out all of this work history, it's going to leave glaring blank spots that, as an employer, I would ask about. Be aware if you are asked and you lie, either out right or by omission, that will bite you later. You can be fired for not being forthcoming when directly asked.

Do you have any friends that were past co-workers that you keep in contact with? They may be able to give you insight into how you are perceived by your co-workers that may be helpful to you.

And I would stick with this job for a long time and become a stellar example of all things a great nurse should be. Then you'll be able to chalk up the past to learning experiences and show that you knew how to stick with one team, work out problems as they come up, and perform to the best of your abilities. You'll even get a good reference that is recent, that may override the past.

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