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Something to understand what nurses think about re the Current News and their opinions!
10 hours ago, Tweety said:I agree with all of the above.
Trump set us up by letting the Taliban know we were going to leave. But I agree with Biden that there was no real good time to carry that out. It was going to be a catastrophe no matter what.
It's Biden's catastrophe at this point.
Reminds me of what some here have said about the border, and inflation. Now Afghanistan.
It all was going to be bad, no matter what.
It's going to be the theme of the Biden administration.
23 minutes ago, Beerman said:Reminds me of what some here have said about the border, and inflation. Now Afghanistan.
It all was going to be bad, no matter what.
It's going to be the theme of the Biden administration.
Did you know there is a secure border on every single side of Afghanistan? I can’t believe how Xenophobic their neighbors are
1 hour ago, Beerman said:You're cherry picking what folks to pay attention to. Trump has had his conservative critics, and Obama had those that in their eyes he never did wrong. Including some right here in these threads.
You didn't even lambast him about the "lie of the year ". You said he was "naive".
Frankly, to call either one's supporters a cult is ludicrous.
Not when there is actually a cult elevating Trump and his big lie about election fraud. What's ludicrous is that you want to deny what is becoming more and more obvious. Obvious at least to people who read more than watch television for information.
I hope the delirious Trump haters criticized Pelosi for her comments on the 2016 election.. Pelosi also encouraged people to go to the streets and protest. Maybe she is the one ultimately to blame for the people questioning the 2020 results and the mostly peaceful protest that occurred on January 6th.
1 hour ago, GordonGekko said:I hope the delirious Trump haters criticized Pelosi for her comments on the 2016 election.. Pelosi also encouraged people to go to the streets and protest. Maybe she is the one ultimately to blame for the people questioning the 2020 results and the mostly peaceful protest that occurred on January 6th.
You don't seem to know much about cult behavior. You should read up on gaslighting as a tool used within cults. You exhibit signs of indoctrination.
7 hours ago, GordonGekko said:Did you know there is a secure border on every single side of Afghanistan? I can’t believe how Xenophobic their neighbors are
It's a very rough terrain, one of the reasons they've been unconquerable for centuries, and people aren't caravanning there for a better way of life are they?
8 hours ago, Beerman said:Reminds me of what some here have said about the border, and inflation. Now Afghanistan.
It all was going to be bad, no matter what.
It's going to be the theme of the Biden administration.
Fair enough.
Even I as a lay person knew the Afghanistan withdrawal would be a mess. Generals have been saying this for the last 20 years.
The border situation was predicted to be disastrous because the caravans started in large numbers just before he was taking office.
Inflation was also easy to predict as people started putting pressure on the economy after 2020, but the labor shortages and product shortages and the rate of inflation perhaps not. While one compares prices of July 2021 to July 2020 prices have risen a lot and it's concerning. I'm hoping though that they yearly inflation ship, the bigger picture won't be as bad.
Biden's theme is that he's acknowledged inflation and said this last week:
However, I can't blame the right for weaponizing inflation against him. Got to go with what you can the big ones right now being the border and inflation and now Afghanistan. There's plenty there. Also there's the dementia thing.
Trump was on Hannity talking about how no president in history has humiliated the United States more than Biden. Fox News is criticizing Harris for taking a trip while Afghanistan suffers. I had no idea conservatives cared so much about the people of Afghanistan. Who knew?
Quote“The Afghanistan operation was always going to end some time, it was never going to go on forever, but the manner in which it’s been done has been humiliating and damaging to Nato.”
NATO critical of US's unilateral withdrawal in Afghanistan. I believe they are still at the airport there helping refugees get out.
https://www.ft.com/content/3ea7e87e-ab3a-4e14-8396-8061420942b0
9 hours ago, GordonGekko said:You bash Trump and the list some extremely vile and corrupt politicians including a racist conspiracy theorist. ….I thought you had a problem with people not accepting election results? LOL
also AOC really? Now you are just gaslighting here. Nobody likes AOC.
I honestly don't know how old you are ,but you don't seem to understand what society cooperatively, all races, ages etc bring to the table!
People like AOC etc have the energy and naivete of youth which is a perspective that older folks need. She's not always going to make sense, because of limited experience but her background and ethnicity is a valuable lens for experienced politicians to draw on!
Young people provide outrage which the older more jaded people lack and needs to be reminded of.
Afghanistan is now a vacuum that will suck a lot of bad players in and with their limited abilities to diplomatic solutions, will trim the herd a bit. It might actually be the powder keg that will occupy both China and Russia to distraction. China with its investments in Pakistan and Sri Lanka is stupid and insecure enough to get involved in Afghanistan and Russia with Putin and his Napoleon syndrome, has already made deals with the Taliban. I'm just waiting to see how Iran's involvement will work out?
Biden may have just made the mistake that will solidify NATO even stronger and a united Europe and NATO, is very, very bad for Russia, Ukraine, Poland, Turkey and Hungary!
Imran Khan's Pakistan will be chomping to be on the western alliance, which means India will have a reason to work with Pakistan. There's a lot of wins here except for the women and children which I'm hoping India takes in, since they are essentially the same culture, even though those idiots think they are different.
This glass might yet be half full for Biden!
This is the kind of scumbag Abbott is!
Just remember his wife is Hispanic so I'm pretty sure he's brainwashed her to dislike her own people through belligerence etc.
Now consider his own disability and how that reflects with the disabled community? I think he's compensating for something with his tough guy image and having to play in Texas politics. Is it Paxton who's the AG? You can bet that he knows where some skeletons are buried but he needs a pardon at some point!
It's a cesspool of a state and politicians!
10 hours ago, Beerman said:You're cherry picking what folks to pay attention to. Trump has had his conservative critics, and Obama had those that in their eyes he never did wrong. Including some right here in these threads.
You didn't even lambast him about the "lie of the year ". You said he was "naive".
Frankly, to call either one's supporters a cult is ludicrous.
I didn't mean to cherry pick but to give a couple of examples but fair enough.
Obama though was really elevated to a icon like status because the economy was in near ruins, and he was the first black president, which gave so many people so much hope for our country, and we placed a lot of burden on him and supported all of what he did to try to fix things. With the immediate rise of the Tea Party against him, I think that only strengthened the steadfast unquestioning support.
But you're right about what I said about Obama at the time but I was still holding him accountable for his mistake. When I said naive, I truly believe that he wasn't lying at the time, but going on his best guess of what the insurance industry would do. He was dead wrong and like I said people held him accountable for that.
It's not like I heard a lie like "I won the election" and believed him and didn't hold him accountable to the fact that the really lost. To me people like Marjorie Taylor Greene who seems to be accepting that Trump won't be re-instated in August because it's a very difficult thing for congress to do (not because she's accepting the reality that he lost, but she's accepting he may not yet be reinstated), still is exhibiting cult-like behavior in her break from realty that he lost. I just can't wrap my head around that.
He's so destroyed confidence in our process (which he started way before voting even started with the idea it would be corrupt if he lost) that even people I know that understand he lost still think the voting system is corrupt and we will never know the truth.
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Trump didn’t con anyone. I voted for him for his pacifist philosophy, tax cuts for upper class, and border protection. I do think he is too old to lead. now but he is much better than the alternative. The USA really needs DeSantis in the presidency. I really hope he wins 2024 we don’t see leaders like him that often. Reminds me of Reagan.