What do you think about with current News and Opinions?

toomuchbaloney · Jul 21, 2022

38 minutes ago, MaybeeRN said:

I don’t see any data aren’t you the first one to complain about people not posting all these facts they espouse?

You get to decide who is the first to ask for citations or data to support their claims. Which claim did I make about abortion without supporting data or evidence? That's right, I'm not the one making claims or elevating concern about an imagined problem with 3rd trimester abortions of convenience.

MaybeeRN · Jul 21, 2022

26 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

You get to decide who is the first to ask for citations or data to support their claims. Which claim did I make about abortion without supporting data or evidence? That's right, I'm not the one making claims or elevating concern about an imagined problem with 3rd trimester abortions of convenience.

You claim data showing your point yet post no data. Then you post a bunch of Knees Harris word salad about not making claims. Do you even read what you type before you post it?

heron, ASN, RN · Jul 21, 2022

8 minutes ago, MaybeeRN said:

You claim data showing your point yet post no data. Then you post a bunch of Knees Harris word salad about not making claims. Do you even read what you type before you post it?

As usual, you’re not making any sense.

So, anyway, since you brought it up originally, have you figured out the definition of “real conservative” yet?

MaybeeRN · Jul 21, 2022

1 minute ago, heron said:

As usual, you’re not making any sense.

So, anyway, since you brought it up originally, have you figured out the definition of “real conservative” yet?

Deflect much? We’ll just have to infer it’s a typical made up post that libs post on here.

heron, ASN, RN · Jul 21, 2022

1 hour ago, MaybeeRN said:

Deflect much? We’ll just have to infer it’s a typical made up post that libs post on here.

Project much? Typical of wingnuts’ failure to produce anything but parrot-speak. You waxed lyrical recently at the prospect of the midterms returning control of Congress to “real conservatives. Noted with interest that you are still unable to describe what a real conservative actually is.

How that makes you competent to remark on “typical” liberal behavior would make for an interesting read.

MaybeeRN · Jul 21, 2022

1 hour ago, heron said:

Project much? Typical of wingnuts’ failure to produce anything but parrot-speak. You waxed lyrical recently at the prospect of the midterms returning control of Congress to “real conservatives. Noted with interest that you are still unable to describe what a real conservative actually is.

How that makes you competent to remark on “typical” liberal behavior would make for an interesting read.

Still waiting on that data to be posted. Since you seem to be TMBs handler maybe you can post that data for us. That’s what I thought. It’s sad TMB needs someone else to step in for them when they info they can’t back up. I guess libtard is an okay term on here if you can call someone a wingnut.

Assistedl8ving · Jul 21, 2022

8 hours ago, heron said:

I’m curious - I just saw a short blurb on facebook from a woman who had to get signed permission from her husband to get her tubes tied.

The question: have any women had to sign a permission slip for legal hubby to get a vasectomy?

Was the woman younger and in prime reproductive age? I know that in some cases when a women elects for tubal litigation when there is no medical pre-determination, has not any children and is requesting because they plan to not ever have children; do have to go through a process to ensure that the surgeon will not face malpractice law suite for rendering a healthy reproductive woman sterile. I could see a facility or a surgeon wanting the husband to "sign" consent as well to ensure the surgeon or facility cannot be sued later on. It is different to tie the tube of a healthy 25 year old with no children than it is to tie the tubes of a 38 year old woman with 4 children with multiple previous c-sections.

In my cousin's case, he wanted a vasectomy because he suffered from sever bi-polar and didn't want to pass it on. He was in his 20's and needed a full consult including a physc evaluation. This was what the surgeon required before he did the surgery. He wasn't married so the spouse wasn't a factor.

heron, ASN, RN · Jul 21, 2022

8 minutes ago, Assistedl8ving said:

Was the woman younger and in prime reproductive age? I know that in some cases when a women elects for tubal litigation when there is no medical pre-determination, has not any children and is requesting because they plan to not ever have children; do have to go through a process to ensure that the surgeon will not face malpractice law suite for rendering a healthy reproductive woman sterile. I could see a facility or a surgeon wanting the husband to "sign" consent as well to ensure the surgeon or facility cannot be sued later on. It is different to tie the tube of a healthy 25 year old with no children than it is to tie the tubes of a 38 year old woman with 4 children with multiple previpus c-sections.

In my cousin's case, he wanted a vasectomy because he suffered from sever bi-polar and didn't want to pass it on. He was in his 20's and needed a full consult including a physc evaluation. This was what the surgeon required before he did the surgery. He wasn't married so the spouse wasn't a factor.

The woman in the blurb looked at least peri-menopausal, if not older, and already had 4 kids.. She also said her husband already had a vasectomy. Did not mention whether she had to sign a permission slip. That’s why I asked.

Assistedl8ving · Jul 21, 2022

14 minutes ago, heron said:

The woman in the blurb looked at least peri-menopausal, if not older, and already had 4 kids.. She also said her husband already had a vasectomy. Did not mention whether she had to sign a permission slip. That’s why I asked.

Well that's strange! Perhaps it is a policy to ensure there could be no law suits? A situation in which a husband tries to sue because he wasn't consulted and now the woman has changed her mind after the fact?

Sounds a bit fishy. I'm not doubting your credibility but since Row vs Wade was overturned, I've hear some pretty fantastic stories on social media especially.

Assistedl8ving · Jul 21, 2022

8 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

"At some point"

That fetal life already had protections... conservatives destroyed those protections so that they could regulate the reproductive lives of women.

I think you are referring to Roe vs Wade abortion limitation at 16 weeks? When you say protections?

Forgive me if I'm wrong, would it also mean that some states are now able to extend that 16 week limit?

Where as some states are more free to place more restrictions, does it not also allow some states to extend abortion limit to beyond 16 weeks?

Assistedl8ving · Jul 21, 2022

23 hours ago, Luna20 said:

I am an L&D nurse, so I know this for a fact and not simply an opinion. I am pro-choice because I have seen up close and personal all the things that can happen during pregnancy, labor, and delivery. I have held patients as they have sobbed over their very wanted babies with conditions that were incompatible with life. I have coded women who should never get pregnant again because the next pregnancy will kill them and they were extremely lucky to survive the most recent one. So many people seem to think that pregnancy and L&D are easy and sunshine/rainbows.

The US has one of the highest maternal mortality rates. We should not be forcing women to continue pregnancies that they do not want or that will potentially kill them.

I am so tired of this attack on women. I am tired of these hypothetical situations that forced birthers are making up to incite emotions in people. They are untrue and are causing real harm to real women.

The government and religion need to keep out of healthcare, especially when these people haven't the slightest understanding of pregnancy, fetal development, labor, delivery, medicine, etc.

Does you unit or hospital perform abortions as well as labour and delivery? As a L and D nurse, do you also assist with abortions?

I'll admit that L and D or gynecology is not something I know much of being an geriatric nurse, however I did not think abortions where done on a labour /delivery unit or by L and D nurses. Am I wrong?

nursej22, MSN, RN · Jul 21, 2022

In 1983, I was scheduled for my third Caesarean section (age 26) and my husband was asked to co-sign the consent. This was in a state where the predominant religion dictated that the husband was the head of the family. My hubby was puzzled, but he signed because he respected my autonomy.