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Something to understand what nurses think about re the Current News and their opinions!
18 minutes ago, heron said:I’m curious - I just saw a short blurb on facebook from a woman who had to get signed permission from her husband to get her tubes tied.
The question: have any women had to sign a permission slip for legal hubby to get a vasectomy?
When I was in high school they finally made it legal for women to establish a legal line of credit without a male to cosign.
21 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:When I was in high school they finally made it legal for women to establish a legal line of credit without a male to cosign.
I remember when the Planned Parenthood folks in Massachusetts were arrested for passing out birth control information. Unmarried women had to travel to the only doctor is New England willing to write prescriptions for the pill or a diaphragm for them.
My mother, a devout Christian, was essentially excommunicated because she decided that 7 kids was enough and started taking BCPs.
I wonder if all the kids getting so snarky about boomers have any clue about just how bad it can get if the dominionists get their way.
5 hours ago, chare said:I think the question whether one supports abortion on demand, regardless of gestational age is fair. If I’m reading this correctly, six states (Alaska, Colorado, New Jersey, New Mexico, Oregon, and Vermont) and the District of Columbia allow abortion without gestational age limitations. This site did not provide any data regarding if, and how frequently late term abortions were performed.
Of the 8 states that banned abortion, only Ohio does not include an exception in cases where the mother’s life and or physical health is threatened or a lethal fetal anomaly is present. Four states (Arkansas, Oklahoma, South Dakota, and Texas) allow abortion in cases where the mother’s life is threatened. Two states (Alabama and Missouri) allow abortion in cases where the mother’s life and/or physical health is threatened. And Mississippi allows abortion in cases where the mother’s life and or physical health is threatened as well as the presence of a lethal fetal anomaly.
I've been around for a long time and given anesthesia for abortions but have never seen a request for an abortion after the 24 week limits of Roe. Never, never. I know that they are done because I read recently about a physician in Texas who is constantly overwhelmed by requests for "late term" abortions but his clientele are mostly poor women who didn't have access to timely obstetrical care where they live and by the time they saved up enough money to come for the abortion, it was no longer early. You do realize that there are increasing number of Americans more than 100 miles away from a hospital as rural hospitals continue to close? What are we going to do with all these unwanted or deformed children? What kind of deficits are grave enough to get an abortion? Should Down symdrome children quality? (Not in my book, but other pregnant women might disagree). Should politicians and others completely ignorant of the facts make those decision or should they be made by the mother and the obstetrician? What would it even mean if the fetus is given personhood? Is the world a better place when desperately poor women or pre-teens forced to give birth? Sometimes we have to make hard decisions based on doing the least harm.
1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:When I was in high school they finally made it legal for women to establish a legal line of credit without a male to cosign.
What year was this? Just asking as one of the young uns at work swears that it was late 90s- early 2000s, per her mom. I bought my first house in early 90s, didn't need a man to cosign, so not sure where this lady got her info
21 minutes ago, Hoosier_RN said:What year was this? Just asking as one of the young uns at work swears that it was late 90s- early 2000s, per her mom. I bought my first house in early 90s, didn't need a man to cosign, so not sure where this lady got her info
She is off by about 25 years.
https://time.com/nextadvisor/credit-cards/ruth-bader-ginsburg-credit-card-legacy/
21 minutes ago, Hoosier_RN said:What year was this? Just asking as one of the young uns at work swears that it was late 90s- early 2000s, per her mom. I bought my first house in early 90s, didn't need a man to cosign, so not sure where this lady got her info
TMB referred to credit cards, not mortgage loans. According to an article on bankrate.com credit card lenders would not allow a woman to hold a credit card in her own name until the passage of the Fair Credit and Opportunity Act in 1974.
8 minutes ago, Beerman said:She is off by about 25 years.
https://time.com/nextadvisor/credit-cards/ruth-bader-ginsburg-credit-card-legacy/
What he said!
33 minutes ago, heron said:TMB referred to credit cards, not mortgage loans. According to an article on bankrate.com credit card lenders would not allow a woman to hold a credit card in her own name until the passage of the Fair Credit and Opportunity Act in 1974.
What he said!
From what my mom told me, a female couldn't get a mortgage without a man either. I had multiple credit cards in the late 80s. I just wanted a frame of reference. This young genius and her druggie mom dispute things like this all of the time, for what reason, I haven't a clue
10 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:LOL
You aren't a L&D nurse, clearly NOT an expert in reproductive healthcare and yet you share your misinformed opinions on abortions here... that makes it odd for you to question qualifications of those of us who do have knowledge and expertise.
Most Americans are unhappy with the efforts of the stacked SCOTUS to destabilize our society with these attacks on freedom.
You should link to the polls that frighten you because it wasn't liberals that turned abortion laws upside-down across the country... that actual action is what should disturb you... not a scary poll that you won't or can't link.
These mythical late abortions you keep referencing were already significantly restricted... now it's not easy to get even the simplest abortions in some states, difficult even. (We provided the data for these abortions long ago... of course you ignored that to hold onto your fear of this mythical procedure)
You say that you think something about abortion at the same time that you believe and share nonsense about abortion. It's not a convincing argument presentation.
Seriously? After your posts not understanding abortifacients you dare to criticize someone else on the subject? That’s rich.
3 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:"At some point"
That fetal life already had protections... conservatives destroyed those protections so that they could regulate the reproductive lives of women.
If conservatives regulated the reproductive lives of women, why are there so many Democrat welfare rats out there? Why are there so many more out of wedlock births?
10 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:That's what the data shows...once again you'd rather dismiss the facts to stick with the feelings.
We HAD restrictions on abortions before the stacked SCOTUS decided that there is no such thing as settled law and there are no consequences for lying in Trump's USA.
I don’t see any data aren’t you the first one to complain about people not posting all these facts they espouse?
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"At some point"
That fetal life already had protections... conservatives destroyed those protections so that they could regulate the reproductive lives of women.