What do you think about with current News and Opinions?

Justlookingfornow · May 22, 2022

2 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Abortion providers aren't randomly choosing pregnant women in public places to terminate their pregnancies...besides the vast majority of the "late term" abortions do not involve a viable fetus. Can you discern any other differences?

The morjity of parents do not murder their children. Should there be no law?

There are very few transgender people , should we not protect their lives?

Justlookingfornow · May 22, 2022

13 hours ago, MunoRN said:

And if what he's claiming was true, I'd completely agree with you.

However the proposed bill he's referring to protects access to abortion only up until the point of fetal viability, with post-viability exceptions limited to situations where the mother is at risk.

Whether his lying was intentional or not I don't know, he might have confused himself by conflating "late term abortion" with the third trimester. "Late term abortion" isn't strictly defined by typically refers to an abortion that occurs from the start of second trimester (13 weeks) up until viability (somewhere around 24 weeks).

Text - S.4132 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Women’s Health Protection Act of 2022 | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

Do you have a source of a Democrat that will say there should be restrictions on later in pregnancy abortions other than for the mother's life or health/congenital defect? (Which isn't abortion , just early delivery and the latter, the baby is allowed to die).

All I seem to find is the robotic " a woman andvther Dr should decide...."

Justlookingfornow · May 22, 2022

5 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

That is nothing more than Henry Olsen's opinion... his opinions in the WAPO are often a bit weird.

So everything he said is just made up? Would WaPo allow such "radical disinformation"?. Opinion or not?

Do you have a source of a Democrat addressing the concern?

Justlookingfornow · May 22, 2022

3 hours ago, subee said:

Do you have any stats on how many late term abortions were done in Colorado for non medical reasons?

Do you have any stats on abortions other than medical reasons if they were not restricted? I believe currently they are not legal.

Do you not believe there would be more request if there were no restrictions?

Justlookingfornow · May 22, 2022

3 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

I believe that it's front and center because right wing activists are making it front and center for targeted groups.

Yeah it does, chose the other tabs in the database. Well not the Medical versus non-medical part...

It's "right wing activism" to want to protect viable fetus/babies late in the 3rd trimester? Not everyone is a right wing activist.

IMV, democrats do not clarify because they don't want to become a target of their very loud radical base.

Do you thinkn it should be a choice between the mother and her Dr to abort a viable fetus/baby late in the 3rd trimester for reason other that the life of the mother or congenital defects?

(Which isn't abortion in the context we are discussing).

Let me ask you this. Do you think it should be a woman's choice to terminate her pregnancy at any stage of pregnancy for any reason she deems neccesary?

Tweety, BSN, RN · May 22, 2022

4 hours ago, Beerman said:

Interesting. Less than 1% of the population is killed by gun violence. Why the need for stricter gun laws?

Ask that of the politicians that are lowering the gestation time of abortion yet not worrying about dead living people.

Tweety, BSN, RN · May 22, 2022

1 hour ago, Justlookingfornow said:

Do you think....

Let me ask you this....

I must say your persistence in asking the same questions that constantly go unanswered is amusing at this point.

Tweety, BSN, RN · May 22, 2022

1 hour ago, Justlookingfornow said:

Do you have a source of a Democrat that will say there should be restrictions on later in pregnancy abortions other than for the mother's life or health/congenital defect? (Which isn't abortion , just early delivery and the latter, the baby is allowed to die).

All I seem to find is the robotic " a woman andvther Dr should decide...."

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Senator Bob Casey of Pennsylvania, who is currently serving his third term, is one of the last remaining lawmakers on Capitol Hill that calls themselves a 'pro-life Democrat', classifying himself as such as recently as four years ago.

He has also reiterated that he does not support a complete ban on abortion – but doesn't go so far as his colleagues to push for late-term terminations.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10803201/Anti-abortion-Senate-Democrat-backs-abortion-rights-bill.html

There are some of us pro-life Democrats out there.

But yes, I do agree there is a lot of punting of the question.

heron, ASN, RN · May 22, 2022

Trigger alert: I aim to misbehave …

The straw man is still dancing, I see. His strings seem connected to a brand new username who only posts this particular misinformation. Midterm elections coming up … don’t fall for it.

The shortage of cheap, captive labor, white panic over demographic changes, accelerating efforts to force women to conceive and carry unwanted pregnancies to term, falling fertility rates and the increasing amplification of both the replacement theory and Christian theocracy advocates add up to a disturbing picture. Add this to the fact that healthy capitalist economies are defined in terms of growth in both consumption and profits, which, in turn requires a constantly expanding population.

You do the math …

toomuchbaloney · May 22, 2022

2 hours ago, Justlookingfornow said:

It's "right wing activism" to want to protect viable fetus/babies late in the 3rd trimester? Not everyone is a right wing activist.

IMV, democrats do not clarify because they don't want to become a target of their very loud radical base.

Do you thinkn it should be a choice between the mother and her Dr to abort a viable fetus/baby late in the 3rd trimester for reason other that the life of the mother or congenital defects?

(Which isn't abortion in the context we are discussing).

Let me ask you this. Do you think it should be a woman's choice to terminate her pregnancy at any stage of pregnancy for any reason she deems neccesary?

No, it's right wing activists want to elevate a tiny fraction of abortions and misrepresent the data... to inflame targeted audiences.

You are welcome to speculate as to why democrats aren't interested in talking about this inflated concern. The larger concern is that the SCOTUS is going to ignore precedent or "settled law" relative to abortion.

Why do you keep talking about killing viable fetuses when you haven't established that this is a large problem?

Women have a RIGHT to make their own reproductive health choices. Women make those choices according to their needs and the laws.

Justlookingfornow · May 22, 2022

1 hour ago, Tweety said:

I must say your persistence in asking the same questions that constantly go unanswered is amusing at this point.

It is amusing. The persistent avoidance of some to answer is interesting.

18 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

No, it's right wing activists want to elevate a tiny fraction of abortions and misrepresent the data... to inflame targeted audiences.

You are welcome to speculate as to why democrats aren't interested in talking about this inflated concern. The larger concern is that the SCOTUS is going to ignore precedent or "settled law" relative to abortion.

Why do you keep talking about killing viable fetuses when you haven't established that this is a large problem?

Women have a RIGHT to make their own reproductive health choices. Women make those choices according to their needs and the laws.

And a non answer. Fair enough, you don't have to answer if you choose not to.

Who is the "targeted audience "?

heron, ASN, RN · May 22, 2022

3 minutes ago, Justlookingfornow said:

It is amusing. The persistent avoidance of some to answer is interesting.

As is your own failure to demonstrate that post-viability abortion on demand is anything like a serious proposal from anyone other than rabid forced pregnancy advocates looking fo a gotcha. Anyone got a match?