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16 hours ago, No Stars In My Eyes said:

How does Trump seem to weasel out of everything, like producing financial  documents, etc? He didn't even document the things that were (supposedly) done to locate the various papers, which is also a requirement ... one of the many he so blithely ignores. I don't get why he is 'allowed' to be so slippery, unless he is a hologram, or something. 

Instead of a Trump Library, how about a jail cell JUST FOR HIM? Or better still, totally SHUN him....that would be a real blow to his ego, if that were to happen! But, too many Trumpeteers still in the world would try to keep that from happening. There are three homes on my street that still have rather large signs and flags in their yards, with Trump's name on them. smh! I am so tired of him, why is he still around?  

Remember when there were posters that had a picture of Nixon, with an big, open mouth smile, waving his hands with peace signs? It was titled, "Why is This Man Laughing?" (BEE-because HE IS AN IDJET!) I think there should be a poster of Trump, along the same lines. Like it would make a half a difference, but OH WELL!

I'm not here to start a squabble, I was just mouthing off.

What exactly is he weaseling out of, in your mind?

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/29/trump-loses-bid-to-lift-contempt-charge-despite-swearing-he-cant-find-subpoenaed-documents.html

 

 

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Okay, I read the link. I don't actually follow the finer points of this whole case, so I am not qualified to join in a debate. Like I said, I was just mouthing off. I can't stand Trump and my opinion is that he is a sleezy liar, that's all. 

And now I will bow out of this thread. TA!

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31 minutes ago, No Stars In My Eyes said:

Okay, I read the link. I don't actually follow the finer points of this whole case, so I am not qualified to join in a debate. Like I said, I was just mouthing off. I can't stand Trump and my opinion is that he is a sleezy liar, that's all. 

And now I will bow out of this thread. TA!

I don't follow it at all.  I didn't know what you were speaking of, and looked it up after I read your post.

 

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There have been so many investigations and trials and grand juries in various locations, that it is hard to track where the former guy is court-wise. 

You might say he weaseled out of the Mueller investigation, when the Justice Department failed to bring charges against a sitting president. He was found not guilty at 2 impeachment trials. The criminal case against him in NYC, is the one fizzling out. The civil case being brought by the state of NY, is proceeding. This is the case where the former guy is being held in contempt for failing turn over documents. The Georgia case about interfering with an election is starting to seat a grand jury. 

I don't think he'll ever see a day in jail, but I think it is important for the truth to come out about tax evasion, Russia dealings, and messing with the election. From what I hear about his appearance in Nebraska tonight, his dementia is worsening. 

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49 minutes ago, nursej22 said:

There have been so many investigations and trials and grand juries in various locations, that it is hard to track where the former guy is court-wise. 

You might say he weaseled out of the Mueller investigation, when the Justice Department failed to bring charges against a sitting president. He was found not guilty at 2 impeachment trials. The criminal case against him in NYC, is the one fizzling out. The civil case being brought by the state of NY, is proceeding. This is the case where the former guy is being held in contempt for failing turn over documents. The Georgia case about interfering with an election is starting to seat a grand jury. 

I don't think he'll ever see a day in jail, but I think it is important for the truth to come out about tax evasion, Russia dealings, and messing with the election. From what I hear about his appearance in Nebraska tonight, his dementia is worsening. 

"weaseled out" to most would be that he acted in someway that to keep himself out of trouble.  Like, persuade people in some manner, for example.

In the case of the Mueller investigation and NYC criminal investigation, these were people were looking for any and every way to find him guilty of something.  But, yet they couldn't.

The impeachment precedings were brought on by one political party, and decided along party lines.  I guess if you think he was guilty, you could argue his influence enabled him to "weasel out" of being convicted. 

 

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Trump wasn't necessarily "not guilty" of anything but, like Beerman said, it was decided along party lines that it was not an impeachable offense.

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/multiple-republicans-agree-trump-s-guilty-it-doesn-t-matter-n1130511

I think "weaseled out" was an expression. I would say that it was a worthy investigation but accept the results.  

I also can't keep up with Trump and the allegations and investigations.  I really can't believe it's all a witch hunt with stuff invented by one party and his opponents.  Time will tell.  He's not done that bad so far.  

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2022/feb/07/donald-trump-list-legal-cases

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The Mueller report was not intended to show guilt, nor did it "completely exonerate) the former president. It identified 10 instances where he may have obstructed justice. A special investigator does not have the power to bring charges; that would be up to the Dept. of Justice. The head of the DOJ at that time was Barr, who incorrectly interpreted the report as exonerating his boss. 

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1 hour ago, nursej22 said:

The Mueller report was not intended to show guilt, nor did it "completely exonerate) the former president. It identified 10 instances where he may have obstructed justice. A special investigator does not have the power to bring charges; that would be up to the Dept. of Justice. The head of the DOJ at that time was Barr, who incorrectly interpreted the report as exonerating his boss. 

Perhaps then you agree with Trump that the Mueller investigation was illegal because Mueller did indeed bring charges and indictments of dozens of others.  Some that eventually led to guilty pleas.  But, not the one guy they were most after.

Anyway, I stand by my statement that he hasn't "weaseled out" of anything.

 

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14 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Perhaps then you agree with Trump that the Mueller investigation was illegal because Mueller did indeed bring charges and indictments of dozens of others.  Some that eventually led to guilty pleas.  But, not the one guy they were most after.

Anyway, I stand by my statement that he hasn't "weaseled out" of anything.

 

I do not agree that the Mueller investigation was illegal. And Mueller did not bring charges or indictments. Those were done by the Department of Justice, headed by Trump appointees. Or do you disagree that Sessions and Barr were not appointed by Trump? 

I do think that he was guilty of the charges brought during both impeachment trials, and yet he was found not guilty. That this is a political process shows a major flaw in the system of checks and balances. 

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48 minutes ago, nursej22 said:

I do not agree that the Mueller investigation was illegal. And Mueller did not bring charges or indictments. Those were done by the Department of Justice, headed by Trump appointees. Or do you disagree that Sessions and Barr were not appointed by Trump? 

I do think that he was guilty of the charges brought during both impeachment trials, and yet he was found not guilty. That this is a political process shows a major flaw in the system of checks and balances. 

To refresh your memory:

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/policy-and-politics/2018/2/20/17031772/mueller-indictments-grand-jury

Here is one of the changing documents, signed by members of Mueller's office.

https://web.archive.org/web/20171030210548/https://www.justice.gov/file/1007346/download

You think he's guilty of obstruction.  No surprise there.  Of course, we're talking about how he have obstructed an investigation that was brought about by fake evidence.  A investigation that never shoukd have taken place.

Anyway, there is a whole other thread about this.  You can go there if you wish to rehash it all.  I'm done.

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Yes.  Let's please bury the discussions about "collusion".  But I don't agree that it's an investigation that shouldn't have taken place even if the evidence was revealed to be fake.  How else could one get to the bottom of things.

Anyway, about DeSantis and Disney.

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 The gasps of surprises have come from people who have spent their lives believing that companies may take the stances of their choice without consequence.

I'm not sure how I feel about this.  I don't approve going after "woke" companies for taking a stance you don't like and retaliating.  I still say he could have commented and left it alone to show you have tough skin and represent us all.  After all Disney contributed 100,000 to Ron DeSantis's political committee (we're waiting to see if he gives it back as some others have).  

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 But the greater likelihood is that the singular resolve DeSantis is demonstrating will result in a decisive re-election, followed by immediate conservative yearning for him to offer his inspiringly combative skill set to a national audience in 2024.

I agree, and I think I said something similar.  The more he angers liberals the stronger he gets.  This is part of Trump's success.  People on the right love angering and "owning the libs".  

https://www.newsweek.com/pushback-against-desantis-proves-value-his-battle-disney-opinion-1701983?fbclid=IwAR0s-kL4sPw0KakyMoriyhxeL0JbzJ93PH-S7WVYkFekXKm7dzp7vPwHNNI

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When I moved here 30 years ago we had a Democrat governor and were a relatively purple state.  Since then many elections were won by Republicans with slim margins, but won nonetheless and Democrats have lost any grip on being purple and we are definitely now a Red State.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2022/04/28/national-democrats-hesitant-about-florida-hindering-voter-outreach-efforts/

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