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52 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

It means that if we want to slow the spread of this very contagious virus we should avoid large crowds and stick to smaller gatherings of close contacts for these holidays.  Our objective is not just to reduce hospitalizations and deaths but to reduce cases and community spread with use of vaccination, masking and testing when outside of our close regular contacts. 

That's kind of what I take it as, that we want to stop the spread of people getting sick, even if it's milder.  40 people can infect a lot of people since evidently it's quite contagious.

Also we remember that delta is out there killing people and hospitalizing them at quite a high rate in certain parts of the country.  Ohio called in the State National Guard to help hospitals, hospitals are having to cancel elective surgeries again, and hospitalizations are rising at double digit rates.  Vaccinated people can also spread it.  While I have little sympathy for the unvaccinated they are filling hospitals.  I was reading an article about my old employer Duke and 100% of their ICU patients are unvaccinated.  Whose to say a vaccinated person didn't infect them.

Here in Florida hospitalizations are increasing again, there are long lines at testing centers, and testing kits are becoming in short supply in certain places.  

Now is not necessarily the time for huge gatherings.  Although I'm not sure where the number 40 for vaccinated people is coming from.  Unfortunately there are no studies to back this up as we are dealing with it in real time and he often goes the cautious route making his best recommendation for any given time.

Anyway, people don't listen to the news much, are blissfully unaware, and many that listen to the news still throw caution to the wind, and some think he's a liar out to destroy America.

“After prosecution, the chair, the gallows, or lethal injection?” Bouchard wrote in the post, which was accompanied by an image of Fauci superimposed over a hanging noose.

https://wyofile.com/bouchard-calls-for-fauci-to-be-tried-then-executed/

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I know this much.  If Fauci had made the recommendations that people wanted to hear, like be free and not to worry about social distancing, masking and "we don't know what's in the vaccination and we don't know if it's really safe", large gatherings are okay, the large amounts of infections are okay because it gives us herd immunity and the death rates are low, and covid went rampant like it has, or it was worse, then he still would be public enemy for giving bad advice. 

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Fauci is Trump's scapegoat. Absent Trump's influence, the media and American public would have no need to criticize the physician/scientist for trying to give the population public health guidance.  It's the Trump effect. 

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3 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Fauci is Trump's scapegoat. Absent Trump's influence, the media and American public would have no need to criticize the physician/scientist for trying to give the population public health guidance.  It's the Trump effect. 

There is a post just a few up from this from a Trump-hater who finds Fauci to be unreliable.   I don't think the "Trump effect" explains that, does it?

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12 hours ago, Tweety said:

That's kind of what I take it as, that we want to stop the spread of people getting sick, even if it's milder.  40 people can infect a lot of people since evidently it's quite contagious.

Also we remember that delta is out there killing people and hospitalizing them at quite a high rate in certain parts of the country.  Ohio called in the State National Guard to help hospitals, hospitals are having to cancel elective surgeries again, and hospitalizations are rising at double digit rates.  Vaccinated people can also spread it.  While I have little sympathy for the unvaccinated they are filling hospitals.  I was reading an article about my old employer Duke and 100% of their ICU patients are unvaccinated.  Whose to say a vaccinated person didn't infect them.

Here in Florida hospitalizations are increasing again, there are long lines at testing centers, and testing kits are becoming in short supply in certain places.  

Now is not necessarily the time for huge gatherings.  Although I'm not sure where the number 40 for vaccinated people is coming from.  Unfortunately there are no studies to back this up as we are dealing with it in real time and he often goes the cautious route making his best recommendation for any given time.

Anyway, people don't listen to the news much, are blissfully unaware, and many that listen to the news still throw caution to the wind, and some think he's a liar out to destroy America.

“After prosecution, the chair, the gallows, or lethal injection?” Bouchard wrote in the post, which was accompanied by an image of Fauci superimposed over a hanging noose.

https://wyofile.com/bouchard-calls-for-fauci-to-be-tried-then-executed/

I think the Wyoming legislature's meme is way over the top, and not representive of most.

However, Fauci has gotten political, seems to seek attention, and most concerning of all has proven to be a liar.

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Beerman said:

There is a post just a few up from this from a Trump-hater who finds Fauci to be unreliable.   I don't think the "Trump effect" explains that, does it?

It only has to explain the contribution and agenda which is intending to scapegoat Fauci, which Cclm reflects quite effectively.  Trump authored that.  Trump inspires people to scapegoat Fauci.  Others, like Muno might not find him reliable but they aren't publicly scapegoating Fauci for Trump's failures.  Perhaps you can't discern the difference. 

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12 minutes ago, Beerman said:

I think the Wyoming legislature's meme is way over the top, and not representive of most.

However, Fauci has gotten political, seems to seek attention, and most concerning of all has proven to be a liar.

 

 

In your opinion Fauci has gotten political and is proven to be a liar.  I don't agree with your assessment or your skill set in identifying lies related to covid because the largest source of misinformation about covid in 2020 was a fellow named Trump, not Fauci. 

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1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

In your opinion Fauci has gotten political and is proven to be a liar.  I don't agree with your assessment or your skill set in identifying lies related to covid because the largest source of misinformation about covid in 2020 was a fellow named Trump, not Fauci. 

Only someone a bit twisted can call Fauci a liar.  He wasn't allowed to say much at the Trump briefings and it was Trump himself doing all the lying.

Fauci delivered news no one wanted to hear:  We have a global pandemic; we don't have enough information to attribute blame; most infected people will be fine but enough will be ill to overwhelm our hospitals; the only ways  to moderate the effects of the virus are vaccine, social distancing, masking and keeping as generally health as you can, and , BTW, it's not going to go away.  That message is completely incongruent with what Trump was telling people.  So here we are with the unvaxxed dying in out of proportion numbers to the vaxxed but inconveniencing the entire country with overwhelmed hospitals.  So what part of Fauci's message was a lie?  Yes there were faux pas in the beginning especially with the masks but I got that completely.  Otherwise all the N95's would be stolen and sold on the black market to the same people who  were trying to buy their own personal ventilators.  The ONLY positive thing to come out of this is improvement in the gene pool.

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29 minutes ago, subee said:

Only someone a bit twisted can call Fauci a liar.  He wasn't allowed to say much at the Trump briefings and it was Trump himself doing all the lying.

He lied about not wearing masks, and he lied about the NIH and their funding of research in Wuhan.

Only someone a bit twisted wouldn't be bothered by being wrong over and over again.

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33 minutes ago, subee said:

 Yes there were faux pas in the beginning especially with the masks but I got that completely.  Otherwise all the N95's would be stolen and sold on the black market to the same people who  were trying to buy their own personal ventilators.  

Ah, yes.  The noble lie.  Those are OK?

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1 hour ago, Beerman said:

He lied about not wearing masks, and he lied about the NIH and their funding of research in Wuhan.

Only someone a bit twisted wouldn't be bothered by being wrong over and over again.

Being wrong is not the same as lying.  Republicans should be used to flip flopping

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