What do you think about with current News and Opinions?

MunoRN, RN · Dec 12, 2021

On 12/11/2021 at 1:38 PM, Beerman said:

In other words, they deserve what they got.

Wow. What a vile attitude.

I don't think TMB suggested that they deserve what they got. When people have downplayed or dismissed the effects of issues like climate change, the strain of Covid on hospitals, etc I think it's fair to point out that this is what you were being warned about.

MunoRN, RN · Dec 12, 2021

5 hours ago, Beerman said:

Simple supply and demand. You're subsidizing the demand side, without increasing the supply. Prices go up. The best example of this is higher education.

That's a bit overly simplistic and not particularly accurate.

We're facing inflation due to a pandemic that caused a massive contraction in the economy, both the US and world economies.

Both demand and supply dropped initially, followed by a partial return in demand combined with supply chain disruptions that increased costs due to reduced supply which then rippled through pretty much everything on the supply side.

At that point, really the only way to avoid inflation is to let the economy continue to stagnate, which comes with a long list of issues worse than inflation and eventually ends in the same inflation anyway.

Beerman, BSN · Dec 12, 2021

25 minutes ago, MunoRN said:

I don't think TMB suggested that they deserve what they got. When people have downplayed or dismissed the effects of issues like climate change, the strain of Covid on hospitals, etc I think it's fair to point out that this is what you were being warned about.

Oh, we know these tornadoes were caused by climate change? Even if all of us were on the same page on climate change, would that have changed what happened this weekend?

Have the hospitals in the effected areas turned away victims because they were already full of covid patients? Don't go looking it up now. You or TMB didn't know when you made these comments. This what matters.

At best, in was inappropriate to make that comment when he did.

25 minutes ago, MunoRN said:

That's a bit overly simplistic and not particularly accurate.

We're facing inflation due to a pandemic that caused a massive contraction in the economy, both the US and world economies.

Both demand and supply dropped initially, followed by a partial return in demand combined with supply chain disruptions that increased costs due to reduced supply which then rippled through pretty much everything on the supply side.

At that point, really the only way to avoid inflation is to let the economy continue to stagnate, which comes with a long list of issues worse than inflation and eventually ends in the same inflation anyway.

I wasn't discussing inflation.

MunoRN, RN · Dec 12, 2021

4 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Oh, we know these tornadoes were caused by climate change? Even if all of us were on the same page on climate change, would that have changed what happened this weekend?

Have the hospitals in the effected areas turned away victims because they were already full of covid patients? Don't go looking it up now. You or TMB didn't know when you made these comments. This what matters.

At best, in was inappropriate to make that comment when he did.

We know that climate change produces more severe and unpredictable weather events. Tornados, hurricanes, drought events, rain and flooding events, temperature extremes all have become less stable in conjunction with climate change. We just had a tornado that went through 4 states, possibly the largest in US history, in December.

Hospitals in each of the effected states continue to be strained due to Covid, I don't think you need to know all that much about how hospitals work to understand that hospitals can't endure an unlimited amount of strain and still provide the same quality of care.

15 minutes ago, Beerman said:

I wasn't discussing inflation.

You said "prices go up", that's what inflation is.

Beerman, BSN · Dec 12, 2021

2 minutes ago, MunoRN said:

You said "prices go up", that's what inflation is.

Now, I think you're just effing with me.

Let me be more specific.

I wasn't discussing the causes of the inflation we are now experiencing. It wasn't even in the same universe as the topic I was discussing.

MunoRN, RN · Dec 12, 2021

5 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Now, I think you're just effing with me.

Let me be more specific.

I wasn't discussing the causes of the inflation we are now experiencing. It wasn't even in the same universe as the topic I was discussing.

The topic was brought up when you posted this

6 minutes ago, Beerman said:

"U.S. workers at private companies earned an average of $31.03 per hour in November, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Over the past year, workers’ hourly pay has increased by 4.8%.

But when you factor in inflation, real wages are down 1.9 % over the past year, according to the BLS. From October to November, real average hourly earnings for all employees decreased 0.4%. "

https://fortune.com/2021/12/10/inflation-wages-low-income-workers/

Forgive more thinking that article was about inflation.

Beerman, BSN · Dec 12, 2021

3 minutes ago, MunoRN said:

The topic was brought up when you posted this

Forgive more thinking that article was about inflation.

You're lost, dude. Give it up.

chare · Dec 12, 2021

1 hour ago, MunoRN said:

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If we're discussing differing views on federal disaster response, then I'm not sure how the Republican view (based on recent actions), isn't relevant.

$155 million dollars was reallocated from FEMA's FY 2020 budget. How does this effect FEMA's current operations and funding under the FY 2022 budget, which would have been submitted by the Biden administration.

So again, how does what Mr. Trump did to the FY 2020 FEMA funding have anything to do with FEMA,'s FY 2022 budget? And when will any of this become Mr. Biden's responsibility?

Beerman, BSN · Dec 12, 2021

3 minutes ago, chare said:

$155 million dollars was reallocated from FEMA's FY 2020 budget. How does this effect FEMA's current operations and funding under the FY 2022 budget, which would have been submitted by the Biden administration.

So again, how does what Mr. Trump did to the FY 2020 FEMA funding have anything to do with FEMA,'s FY 2022 budget? And when will any of this become Mr. Biden's responsibility?

Ever heard the expression, "I'm living rent free in your head"?

Trump is living rent free in the heads of many liberals.

toomuchbaloney · Dec 13, 2021

4 hours ago, Beerman said:

Lobbing words? Rofl...

"Of course, like many other things the government subsidizes, this plan will make daycare even more expensive. "

Your reply:

"Did you read that in your social media feed or hear it on AM radio."

So, are you now conceding Biden's child care plan is going to make child care more expensive to obtain for those who don't qualify for assistance? And, likely harder to find.

And, actually I don't know there is a significant number of those who stay home because they can't find daycare. Maybe there is. Where's the data?

Holy hell. I'm conceding what?

There were links provided which discussed how lack of childcare is having an impact on employment. Would you like to discuss those articles and how we might meet this caregiving need?

MunoRN, RN · Dec 13, 2021

11 hours ago, chare said:

$155 million dollars was reallocated from FEMA's FY 2020 budget. How does this effect FEMA's current operations and funding under the FY 2022 budget, which would have been submitted by the Biden administration.

So again, how does what Mr. Trump did to the FY 2020 FEMA funding have anything to do with FEMA,'s FY 2022 budget? And when will any of this become Mr. Biden's responsibility?

And I'd completely agree with you if it was claimed that Trump took money from future disaster response and left no way to alleviate that, but that's not what was claimed.

Republicans have opposed FEMA disaster response, the most notable being Rand Paul who has voted against FEMA response to a number of natural disasters in recent years, and yet wasted no time asking for all available funding when Kentucky was hit with a tornado. The hypocrisy shouldn't go unnoted.

11 hours ago, Beerman said:

You're lost, dude. Give it up.

Yup, I give up. I give up trying to have a reasoned discussion with someone who I now realize I should have just saved each of us some time.

toomuchbaloney · Dec 13, 2021

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Tyson increased the price of beef "so much — by more than 35% — that they made record profits while actually selling less beef than before," the advisers wrote.

Meat packers' profit margins jumped 300% during pandemic

Capitalism must be regulated in order to protect We the People.