What She Couldn't Tell You

You've all had that patient...the mom with the frequent flyer child, and you want to scream with frustration because she's here again. Maybe she can't tell you why she keeps coming back. Maybe her behavior and lack of eye-contact makes your teeth itch. Did you ever ask? Did you look beyond your own exhaustion and frustration and really see her? How much do any of us really see the people we talk to, sit by, or care for? Nurses Announcements Archive Article

We've all met this type of mom before. It's 2330, her 8 year old daughter is struggling to breathe, and you know for a fact you saw them two weeks ago for the same thing. You also know for a fact you gave her a prescription for an inhaler, a follow-up appointment with a pediatrician for asthma, and got the information for applying for state aid for medical assistance. Yet, there they are, the child anxious and pale, the mother unable to make eye-contact and answering in quiet, short statements.

A little eye-rolling as you walk into the room helps you keep your tongue civil during the H&P. Definitely an asthma attack, the kind you had educated this mom about avoiding and preventing two weeks ago. You sigh in frustration (and a wee bit of anger) without realizing it, but the mother does. She shrinks a little more in the chair, stares at the floor at little harder, and tightens her hand around her daughter's hand. Her behavior sets your teeth on edge, and you hurry out of the room so you don't say anything you think will get yourself in trouble later.

As you head down the hall to let the on-call know that FF#3 is waiting for a neb, you shake your head that just about anyone can have kids nowadays, and wonder at that mom's gall to come in and be so diffident when it is clearly her fault that child is having another attack. You make sure to share your opinion with the nurses at the station. Venting helps.

Meanwhile in that room, a very anxious mother, who is struggling with an Atlas-sized load of guilt, tries to sooth her anxious child while they both wait uncomfortably for the doctor. Mom knows what you think of her. You aren't as unbiased and neutral as you thought. She can't tell you why they are here on a cold snowy night, at least not straight out, and you didn't ask.

She can't tell you that her husband has threatened to kill her and the daughter on numerous occasions if she ever thought about leaving him.

She can't tell you that he broke two ribs and tore out a chunk of her hair the size of a golf-ball when she tried saving up money for the daughter's birthday presents. He needed that money, there was beer to be bought.

She can't tell you that he disabled her car four times in the past two weeks while he was out drinking, and one of those times fell squarely on the day of the child's appointment.

She can't tell you that he routinely takes all of the money out of her purse, and she can barely feed her daughter, let alone get medication for her.

She can't tell you that he's a twice convicted felon, and because he won't leave, and won't let her leave, she can't get federal or state aid, because one of those felonies involved drugs.

She can't tell you these things, because he's out in the car, partially drunk, with a gun hidden under the seat, and if she takes what he thinks is too long, this might be the night he uses it.

So she hides. She does what she can, and tries to keep her daughter and herself alive. She takes all of your judgement and frustration and internalizes it, reinforces her belief that she is a horrible person, a horrible mother, and deserves every little bit of scorn and distaste heaped upon her. She knows all this, and yet she brought the daughter to the ER anyways, knowing that you will still care for the daughter, even if you hate the mother. She trusts in your care, your skill, and your oath to care for the ill. She pays you in nickles, dimes, and her self-esteem.

She might not have been able to tell you, and you didn't ask.

Specializes in Critical Care, ED, Cath lab, CTPAC,Trauma.
I'm sorry. I understand everyone has a story to tell. But if this is true she is a poor mother. If you have a kid you put them 1st. By being not calling the police, not reporting all this she is endangering her child. If a woman wants to stay in that sort of relationship, fine. Don't do it to your children then hide behind some "battered woman's syndrome"

Now everyone you can ream me. Go ahead, but nothing will change my mind.

As a victim of DV many many years ago....it is stunning how you end up there and how hard it is to get out. I pray that you never find yourself there. The emotional abuse and tearing apart any shred of self respect....they separate you and alienate those important to you. They isolate you and make you believe that you are somehow responsible. I look back at that now and wonder who was that girl....I feel sorry for her. I refer to that time as my previous life for I can't believe that this person in this lifetime ever got into that position.

Before you pass judgement remember....There but for the grace of God go I.

Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.
I'm so happy I got to see this story. I feel it spoke to me for a reason. I was that mother tonight at the ER. My son had a fever that resulted in an asthma attack. I felt the weight on my shoulders when I talked to the nurses and the doctor. I saw how the doctor tried telling me with a smile but her voice cut on edge. I knew the nurses and I heard them talking about me, and I felt so ashamed. I did my best to help my son, but like in that story, there's always more to it. I'm glad this was the first thing I saw tonight after coming home with a healthier child. Maybe this experience will help others see from another's point of view and feel also.[/quote']

(((HUGS))) Be safe, and well.

Specializes in LTC, CPR instructor, First aid instructor..

From CountryMomma "That woman was my mother." Great story dear. When I was a child, we had neighbors who were both alcoholics with 4 children. The father beat the mother several times. I even saw the inside of their house destroyed, and the outside door torn off their house. Then one day she killed herself by driving into a field, and landed upside down in a stream. My cousin found her.

Thankfully, we have local resources for women in this situation. However, a nurse who worked at our local medical center was shot to death by her husband as she was walking to her car in the hospital parking lot after getting off the third shift. They had recently separated.

Specializes in NICU.

Humbling!! Very well written!

I have often wondered why some women (I say women because that is my scope of reference) can walk into a room and be attracted to the ONE man that will abuse them. Why some women can go to a millionaire's conference and hookup with the one man that won't buy them a cup of coffee. Abusers are controlling monsters who can imprison you. The question that we often don't ask is why the woman CHOSE them at some point. Why did you have the 3rd, 4th, and 5th child? Why did you leave him and choose another one JUST like him ? There is something wrong with him for his behavior and you for choosing him. Some people do choose the victim role over and over. Some leave and meet a good person and cannot function in a relationship where they aren't mistreated.

No matter what, you get out when there is a child involved. You should get out regardless but you are responsible for yourself. When a child enters the picture, you must leave.

No excuses.

I will judge that. As mentioned before by some of us . . we have lived through abuse as children. We aren't coming from some place where we don't know what we are talking about. Get me out of the situation mom or dad. It is up to you. Be my hero.

Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.
I have often wondered why some women (I say women because that is my scope of reference) can walk into a room and be attracted to the ONE man that will abuse them. Why some women can go to a millionaire's conference and hookup with the one man that won't buy them a cup of coffee.

That same man showered gifts, then gradually and eventually pulls back-economic abuse and emotional abuse.

Abusers are controlling monsters who can imprison you.

And can be pillars of the community, well liked people who one "never thought would" abuse. :blink:

The question that we often don't ask is why the woman CHOSE them at some point. Why did you have the 3rd, 4th, and 5th child?

See economic abuse (no birth control) and sexual abuse, and emotional abuse.

Why did you leave him and choose another one JUST like him ?

Chance are some women repeat and find someone who does abuse again; patten of behavior from enduring abuse; that's why there is a rationale for "battered women syndrome"; It's not called that anymore; however, with the right support and counseling, a woman (or man) can break the cycle; I am a testament to that; I am marrying a man that has the upmost respect support for me and our relationship; has lost a sister to DV; funny how life works out for the better. :)

There is something wrong with him for his behavior and you for choosing him.

Sometimes both behaviors are caused my socio emotional sensitivities; please see my post about the Stanford Experiment; although controversial; I truly believe that people can be driven to do just about anything or accept anything, even the strip search prank calls are a horrid example of complying with someone who one thinks has the "power"...

Some people do choose the victim role over and over. Some leave and meet a good person and cannot function in a relationship where they aren't mistreated.

Pretty broad brush here; it's not so black and white...as you see; I have provided examples.

I also implore people to check out my favorite movie that really snapped me out of my situation; "Gaslight" with Ingrid Bergman; it shows how a "charming" man can attempt to transform a woman by knowing this woman's vulnerabilities; it uses the term "Gaslighting" in the title; basically what emotional abusers love to do to their victims; feel free to wiki the movie and the term. :yes:

Specializes in LTC, CPR instructor, First aid instructor..

I agree that judgment has no place in nursing. Judgment is condemnation.

Specializes in FNP, ONP.

And consider this: when you judge, you become yet another victimizer. Don't do that. Reach out to the wounded and be a hero instead. S/he cannot do it alone. Put your money where your mouth i and DO something.

This is amazing. Thank you. Yet another example of what what my nursing school psych instructor pleaded us to take away having unconditional positive regard for patients. You may never know what they are going through or what they have been through.

Maintaining health is simple and easy, until real life gets in the way. Thanks for the reminder.

Unbelivable ignorance from some people who are apparently nurses here. Please visit Safe Horizon and educate yourselves. Why oh why are you questioning the victims choices? The perpetrator is who should be questioned. Also the stereotyping referring to women who " have three and four kids with their abuser", really disgusting and out of touch with reality. Very scary that people like you are working as nurses. Yes a victim who has a documented abusuve relationship could face child endangerment charges should an incident occur when children are awake, I know the law you ignorant people don't. As well as safe horizon go and take a look at the District Attorney's website advocating for victims of abuse. There's a reason why the city prosecutes the abuser and takes away the choice from the victim, the victim has no choice if an abuser is prosecuted. There's a reason the city takes away this choice from the victim, because of fear, because stigma, because of ignorant people like you perpetuating that stigma. Go tell the DA these victims deserve everything they get since you think you know better than the law.